posted February 16, 2015 03:33 AM            

An another astrologer said that placidus and whole signs are not reliable and accurate, so don't really trust it. Use equal.

I've always related to my Scorpio on the third house cusp, but the sag third house cusp makes some sense too. However,I've been using the placidus system, so this is new to me,haha!

Here's two of my charts from equal and placidus.

posted February 17, 2015 12:07 PM            

I would like to know about this too.

posted February 17, 2015 01:12 PM            

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Originally posted by athenegoddess:
Equal house system is more accurate.

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posted February 17, 2015 01:26 PM            

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Originally posted by athenegoddess:
Equal house system is more accurate.

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Can I ask why you think this? An astrologer that I talked to said the same thing!

posted February 17, 2015 01:28 PM            

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Originally posted by GeminiKarat:
I just want to stop by and tell you that I like your chart.

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posted February 17, 2015 01:31 PM            

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Originally posted by themischievousone:
Friendly bump.

I would like to know about this too.

My chart in equal house system changes the house my natal sun, jupiter, and uranus is in.

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posted February 17, 2015 02:45 PM              

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Originally posted by Geminiyoungster:
Aww, thank you! What stands out to you in my chart?

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It looks like a Pandoras’s box.
https://www.facebook.com/HarmoniaArts/posts/354151418024057

posted February 17, 2015 05:16 PM            

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Originally posted by GeminiKarat:
It looks like a Pandoras’s box.
https://www.facebook.com/HarmoniaArts/posts/354151418024057

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Oh wow,it does! I wonder what can these mean in depth? I'm going to do a search on this now,but before I do this,do you know what these could mean?

I may make a spin off thread!

Thanks!

posted February 17, 2015 05:17 PM            

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Originally posted by 3l3n:
Well this just gives a whole different meaning to my SR. my natal a little also.
I'm very interested too in understanding which is more accurate & why

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posted February 17, 2015 05:24 PM            

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Originally posted by CupOfDavid:
Yeah, I'd like to know this as well. My Mercury, Venus, Mars, Jupiter, and Moon all change houses in the equal house system.

Thanks for creating the thread, Gemini!

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posted February 17, 2015 05:30 PM            

That's why we are so different and unique....it's the small little things like this that create unique hearts desire in us and then we have numerous different directions we can take those desires. That's why astrology is far from cut n dry or black n white!

So my opinion is they are both correct...depending on how deep you want to go.
Whole house system will give a good solid foundation, but when your ready to go deeper use the other.

posted February 17, 2015 05:58 PM            

Your curiosity is good, but you've asked the most divisive question in modern astrology. The answer -- if it is honest will elaborate and either be mathematically complex (possibly incomprehensible) or leave off technicalities altogether and get down to practical differences.

The differences in house systems are that some are time-based and some are space-based. The equal house is neither, but is a mere convenience for neatness for flat wheel charts. This exposes the problem in our current scientific paradigm, which is that we still have not reconciled space and time as singular phenomena, rather than separately understood items. We cannot expect current astrology practice to be any more insightful than the current paradigm.

For your purposes the important thing is to make sure that your Asc is accurate. That is the first order of business. Without an accurate 1st house cusp you have no basis for accuracy anywhere else no matter what house system you use. Your Asc is 'cuspy.' The question naturally is, Are you really Libra rising at that degree or Virgo rising?

No present house system is perfect, but Placidus is closest in my experience and in comparisons to other systems. ALL house systems break down beyond 66* north or south latitude.

posted February 17, 2015 07:01 PM            

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Originally posted by Kannon McAfee:
Geminiyoungster,

Your curiosity is good, but you've asked the most divisive question in modern astrology. The answer -- if it is honest will elaborate and either be mathematically complex (possibly incomprehensible) or leave off technicalities altogether and get down to practical differences.

The differences in house systems are that some are time-based and some are space-based. The equal house is neither, but is a mere convenience for neatness for flat wheel charts. This exposes the problem in our current scientific paradigm, which is that we still have not reconciled space and time as singular phenomena, rather than separately understood items. We cannot expect current astrology practice to be any more insightful than the current paradigm.

For your purposes the important thing is to make sure that your Asc is accurate. That is the first order of business. Without an accurate 1st house cusp you have no basis for accuracy anywhere else no matter what house system you use. Your Asc is 'cuspy.' The question naturally is, Are you really Libra rising at that degree or Virgo rising?

No present house system is perfect, but Placidus is closest in my experience and in comparisons to other systems. ALL house systems break down beyond 66* north or south latitude.

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Well thank you for answering, but i was just noticing that a lot of people were curious about this too, even one of my friends! I just had to ask.

My Ascendant is 100 percent accurate. I got the time from my birth certificate, so everything is fine with that.

And also, I didn't know that my Asc was on the cusp? I've always felt like a Virgo and Libra rising , but I read articles in the past that stated if you are at the first degree of a sign then you are whatever your rising sign is placed at, not the sign before it.

However, this makes a lot of since now that I look at it a little more!

posted February 17, 2015 10:53 PM            

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Originally posted by EmGem:
the 1 degree thing is interesting......i have my moon in 1 deg virgo but ive often felt like im a leo moon.....? so where does that leave me?

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Same with me,I agree! You probably read about my virgo and libra situation. However, Just like my saturn sign in my chart at 0 degrees pisces, I feel like an aqua saturn more than anything,especially when I read the descriptions! My saturn is aspected quite a lot in my chart.

Imo, I think when it comes to the moon,you probably feel it a little more. It's probably not to my degree, being a leo moon, but you can probably put your feeling to the side and think more practical in a sense, haha!

posted February 17, 2015 11:00 PM              

When I use Equal House it changes the houses of many of my planets, instead of having 4 planets in the 9th it gives me 4 in the 10th. I can see why the 10th makes more sense for my chart than the 9th although I can also some true things for the ninth but also things that seem untrue/impossible. So I think it can be good to read up on both placements and see what feels most true for you. I think Equal House is more accurate and if you live in higher/lower latitudes then perhaps undertones of the Placidus placements show through as well.

posted February 17, 2015 11:35 PM            

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Originally posted by deepseablues:
I agree with Equal House system as two of my favorite astrologers that I hold in high esteem follow this system. I'm not 100% sure of their reasonings but their work is impeccable. I do know that one of the reasonings is because Placidus fails for those born in more Northern/Southern latitudes. It looks like you were born fairly close to the equator as your houses are fairly equal in Placidus and don't change much when changed to Equal, as well as none of your planets change signs when changed to Equal House.

When I use Equal House it changes the houses of many of my planets, instead of having 4 planets in the 9th it gives me 4 in the 10th. I can see why the 10th makes more sense for my chart than the 9th although I can also some true things for the ninth but also things that seem untrue/impossible. So I think it can be good to read up on both placements and see what feels most true for you. I think Equal House is more accurate and if you live in higher/lower latitudes then perhaps undertones of the Placidus placements show through as well.

Also, just because you got your birth time off your birth certificate doesn't necessarily make it 100% accurate. Does the birth certificate time go down to the minute or is it rounded to a 0 or 5? Also I have contemplated this as well, that depending on what the clock was set to it might not be entirely accurate, ie, two clocks in the same building can be 5 minutes off, who's to say which clock is the correct one? That's why time is so fake, you can just set the clock to something and say that's what the "time" is like day lights saving, it's like oh, just turn the clock an hour and voila, it's a brand new time! I hate day lights saving and don't believe in it. But I'm going off on a tangent here. That's why chart rectification is important, cause the ascendant degree changes like every 5 minutes. I haven't had my chart properly rectified, but I am sure of it's correctness because of a number of reasons that are too lengthy to go into detail right now, but I do know the time down to the minute and my birth time came to me in a very strange fashion but also because of certain massive events that happened on major transits on same days that the transits became exact.

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I'm going for the equal house system myself at the moment. I've been looking up some things that's bring me to a conclusion.

And also,I think the birth certificate is right! I remember my dad saying that I was born at this time or around about this time. However, it could be an error and possibility that i wasn't , but that's all I have right now. So I wont really question and analyze it.

posted February 18, 2015 01:44 AM            

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Originally posted by Geminiyoungster:
Imo, I think when it comes to the moon,you probably feel it a little more. It's probably not to my degree, being a leo moon, but you can probably put your feeling to the side and think more practical in a sense, haha!

Imo, It just confuses me sometimes because I feel like both signs in a way!

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posted February 18, 2015 08:58 AM            

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Originally posted by EmGem:
[QUOTE]Originally posted by Geminiyoungster:
[b]Imo, I think when it comes to the moon,you probably feel it a little more. It's probably not to my degree, being a leo moon, but you can probably put your feeling to the side and think more practical in a sense, haha!

Imo, It just confuses me sometimes because I feel like both signs in a way!

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So, being a newbie to all this..how exactly do the houses change in the equal? e.g. if i have my moon in my 11th house, does it then become the 12th in equal?? do i just move everything forward a house? [/B][/QUOTE]