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frankie2912
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posted February 20, 2015 03:24 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for frankie2912     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Reconnected with an old friend who said he can't love anyone. He said, "I don't love my child's mother. I only love my mother and my son. I don't love my dad, my bbrothers, or my sisters. I can't feel that because I can't trust anyone. People think they love others but they don't know what love really is."

Ouch. It's sad to hear this from him. He said, concerning sex, that he prefers to tell a woman up front that he only wants sex and it's nothing more than that and never will be. He doesn't like the nagging, jealousy, and possessiveness comin from a partner and he wants to live his life without having to compromise his lifestyle.

He has a Scorpio moon. I know other Scorpio moons who are guarded and don't open up easily but this guy sounds extreme. Is it because it's squaring Jupiter and closely conjunct Pluto?

He has Aries Sun, Venus, and Mercury all conjunct. Not sure if that Aries Venus has anything to do with it.

So is this what happens when Scorpio moon gets burned? What aspects make a person feel like they cannot love and also believe they cannot truly be loved in return?

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tbelle
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posted February 20, 2015 03:29 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for tbelle     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Im a scorpio moon...that sounds like me right now. Maybe the saturn transit that passed is getting him down?

To be honest I can relate because I have been burned so many times I recently have given up. Not looking for a man. Maybe i will change, but as for now I dont believe in romantic love.

I also have a mercury in aries and i tend to blurt things out without really thinking about it.

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sxorpia
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posted February 20, 2015 04:30 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for sxorpia     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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tbelle
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posted February 20, 2015 04:40 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for tbelle     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
i agree with your comment...

As of this point in my life i just dont have rose colored glasses on anymore, in terms of ROMANTIC love. the only love that matters in unconditional love. Sometimes we need to be honest with ourselves. I rather have someone who is honest- Think about it...how many ppl out there only want SEX but dangle the carrot in front of someone, falsely leading them to think they love them? Honesty helps open things up, dissolve dilution and work towards something real.

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whaaat
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posted February 20, 2015 05:36 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for whaaat     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
My Scorpio Moon demands perfection: I either idealize someone as a near saint or I disregard them as less than human...

So yeah, with such an emotional nature I often feel alone and unloved (even if that's not true). The type of love I need is all consuming; deep down I want complete sacrifice.

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Odette
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posted February 20, 2015 06:12 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Odette     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
He means what he says. He is being honest imo
So let him be - if you're not interested in something casual. Don't try to change him.

And I don't think you should pity him or judge... Obviously he has been through some difficulf experiences and this is just where he is -at- right now.
If he made the decision not to get emotionally involved, then he won't - until he feels ready to open up again (*if* he ever does). Scorpio is fixed so it can take a long time for Scorpio Moon to let someone in again - once they were badly betrayed.

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I'm so cappy
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posted February 20, 2015 06:51 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for I'm so cappy     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
He loves his mother and son, that's not nobody. I love literally no one, medal please

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I'm sooo happy! I mean, cappy.

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posted February 20, 2015 09:18 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for DeepFreeze     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I've been there off and on, feeling that way.
I think it was my 12th, and sometimes my moon trine Uranus cries for independence. But I've felt unlovable and like I only loved my mom. It was kind of a trust issue. My mom loves unconditionally and it's very obvious. His Scorpio moon can probably feel people's boundaries with him. It's a negative feeling to have people seem so caring yet know that it's not as deep as they put on.
The ability to see beyond the surface comes with a price.

My mom is VERY independent!! She has Aries sun, moon, and mercury.

I'm too lazy to type up a whole thing but I agree with others here.

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hypatia238
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posted February 20, 2015 09:38 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for hypatia238     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Its not that surprising...he is very all or nothing and guarded so he only truly loves two people. I bet he doesnt realize that he cares about other poeple as well, not love, but cares and just doesn't admit it to himself as a way to cope and stay detached.

"What he is probably saying is I only trust two people truly and have only allowed myself to get attached to two people in the world."

I bet however with the right synastry and composite he will not have a choice but to fall in love unless ofcourse he runs but I think moon conjunct pluto wouldn't run and can take the intensity; I just think he has not met that person. Does he have moon-saturn aspects? and Venus-neptune aspects?

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I completely understand his desire to avoid the nagging, possessiveness and jealousy but if he is just sleeping around he is simply avoiding intimacy to not get hurt. He could have a friend with benefits arrangement and not deal with the nagging, jealousy and possessiveness but still benefit from the intimacy and not sleep around as much.

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posted February 20, 2015 09:46 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for zirr1     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by whaaat:
My Scorpio Moon demands perfection: I either idealize someone as a near saint or I disregard them as less than human...

So yeah, with such an emotional nature I often feel alone and unloved (even if that's not true). The type of love I need is all consuming; deep down I want complete sacrifice.


I am a scorpio moon who is in the same position where the love I need is all consuming. I need the person who 'loves' me to give up everything for me or else I feel they don't love me. This is all a secret of course. I also tend to idealize my partners and then it all comes crashing down infront of me and I don't want to be around them anymore..

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posted February 20, 2015 09:48 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Gabby     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I've been talking to a scorp Sun, Merc, Mars, Uranus, DC
He seems to have become very doubtful true love exists. He says no one will allow others the freedom to be real, say what they feel even if it's not the prettiest...the consequences are brutal if you try.

I believe if you allow someone to be real, say the things that are not pretty and may hurt you in the moment....you open the door for that person to change if that's their intention.
I know, myself, if I'm allowed to get out all my doubts and frustration they slowly go away and I'm able to start working on being different. Expressing things that are hard or maybe harsh and out of proportion sometimes is all you need in order to find a new way of seeing things.

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posted February 20, 2015 09:55 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for hypatia238     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Gabby:
I've been talking to a scorp Sun, Merc, Mars, Uranus, DC
He seems to have become very doubtful true love exists. He says no one will allow others the freedom to be real, say what they feel even if it's not the prettiest...the consequences are brutal if you try.

I believe if you allow someone to be real, say the things that are not pretty and may hurt you in the moment....you open the door for that person to change if that's their intention.
I know, myself, if I'm allowed to get out all my doubts and frustration they slowly go away and I'm able to start working on being different. Expressing things that are hard or maybe harsh and out of proportion sometimes is all you need in order to find a new way of seeing things.


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posted February 20, 2015 10:50 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for misslani     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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I completely understand his desire to avoid the nagging, possessiveness and jealousy but if he is just sleeping around he is simply avoiding intimacy to not get hurt. He could have a friend with benefits arrangement and not deal with the nagging, jealousy and possessiveness but still benefit from the intimacy and not sleep around as much.[/B]


It's his personal choice. I'm a lot like him; I only love my siblings and even that love is ... limited. It doesn't have to mean he's afraid to love. Maybe he's just not capable to feel love the way most people are. If it doesn't bother him, why would it bother you?
Not all people look for love and attachments. He might be sleeping around because he likes variety and gets bored by having the same people always around him. Maybe he likes challenge and "playing the game". We can't know for sure.

P. S. I'm a Cancer moon with ASPD. Also Libra asc., Venus, Pluto, Vesta and Lilith in Scorpio 1st house, Sagittarius Sun, Aries Mars, etc.

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posted February 20, 2015 11:07 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for violet7887     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Your friend has realized that nothing lasts for ever. I don't think it's anything to feel sad about. He's just taking the most honest approach until he finds something to connect to.

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frankie2912
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posted February 21, 2015 06:03 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for frankie2912     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Thank you all for your opinions. It does sound like Scorpio moon is like this. It fascinates me, as a Scorpio ASC/Venus conj Pluto, to learn this about someone. It still makes me a little sad, because I wonder what may have happened to him to make him feel that way.

And please don't assume that I'm trying to change him. I am not trying to do anything but understand and learn. He and I were a thing a long time ago, and I'm just now getting the chance to get to really know him. Naturally I'm curious.

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posted February 22, 2015 01:18 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for babybull82     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by tbelle:
i agree with your comment...

As of this point in my life i just dont have rose colored glasses on anymore, in terms of ROMANTIC love. the only love that matters in unconditional love. Sometimes we need to be honest with ourselves. I rather have someone who is honest- Think about it...how many ppl out there only want SEX but dangle the carrot in front of someone, falsely leading them to think they love them? Honesty helps open things up, dissolve dilution and work towards something real.


I like this and it's true. I wish men (in my case) would just be honest from the start. A lot less time(specifically my time) wouldn't be wasted in my opinion.

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Aubyanne
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posted February 22, 2015 03:00 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Aubyanne     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
tbelle's got a point.

SATURN was a doozy for all the lunar Scorps. We've been through a period of 'put up, or shut up,' and we're expecting everyone to fall in line. Including ourselves.

I have a lot more respect for natal SATURN conjunct MOONs.

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frankie2912
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posted February 22, 2015 06:31 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for frankie2912     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I have saturn conjunct moon in the natal..though I don't feel as guarded as he described himself. My conjunction is in Sagittarius; I suppose that might be easier to deal with.

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