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Topic: Mars/Uranus/Pluto conjunct opposed Saturn in natal, explosive person?
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Gabby Moderator Posts: 5453 From: Registered: Sep 2012
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posted February 20, 2015 02:29 PM
Would this stellium create a huge imbalance in their will, drive, individualism and need to destroy and rebuild which is up against their karmic responsibilities and basic life structure? I met this guy and I've been talking to him...he seems pretty cool but this opposition looks kind of intense. Esp since it t-squares his NN. He must have some heavy weight he's carrying in this life! How do you think it would affect the person in real life? IP: Logged |
theunknown Knowflake Posts: 1835 From: Registered: Dec 2010
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posted February 20, 2015 03:04 PM
Either really explosive or really disciplined and intense. IP: Logged |
Taineberry Knowflake Posts: 851 From: Registered: Jun 2011
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posted February 20, 2015 03:32 PM
I have this same stellium opposite Saturn. Actually it forms a grand cross with three other planets. In my case, I rarely explode. I am more of the intensely controlled type. However, i can be unpredictable and am willing to take calculated risks to get what i want.IP: Logged |
GeminiKarat Knowflake Posts: 545 From: Austria Registered: Jun 2014
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posted February 20, 2015 03:49 PM
I have these planets within my stellium and a square to my Saturn. I used to be very explosive and made my experiences. I try to evolve that to a disciplined release of intensity.IP: Logged |
Vajra Moderator Posts: 741 From: Europe Registered: Dec 2012
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posted February 20, 2015 04:17 PM
quote: Originally posted by GeminiKarat: I have these planets within my stellium and a square to my Saturn. I used to be very explosive and made my experiences. I try to evolve that to a disciplined release of intensity.
Same with me. I have Mars opp. Uranus and both square Saturn. IP: Logged |
Gabby Moderator Posts: 5453 From: Registered: Sep 2012
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posted February 20, 2015 04:28 PM
Interesting everyone, thank you for your replies.IP: Logged |
Gabby Moderator Posts: 5453 From: Registered: Sep 2012
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posted February 20, 2015 04:32 PM
quote: Originally posted by Taineberry: I have this same stellium opposite Saturn. Actually it forms a grand cross with three other planets. In my case, I rarely explode. I am more of the intensely controlled type. However, i can be unpredictable and am willing to take calculated risks to get what i want.
His NN is square this stellium My concern is my Neptune and Psyche are sitting on his NN/SN both squaring the opposition. Would I create greater stress on him, like I our pressure on him in the same ways he already puts too much pressure on himself? Would I exasperate his already stressed points? IP: Logged |
Doux Rêve Moderator Posts: 9180 From: Registered: Dec 2010
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posted February 21, 2015 08:48 AM
You do trigger his natal configuration, Gabby, so naturally there will be a reaction. But depending on how integrated your own Neptune is, and how integrated his configuration is, it may prove productive or destructive (which in turn, can become a turning point for one or both people).Neptune has a gentle influence generally but can be subtly undermining, so if there's an unawareness going on, you might trigger his subconscious issues in some way and the way he reacts to this will be up to him. I'd be cautious but I think it's not as bad as if say, Mars/Uranus/Saturn/Pluto was there. Good luck. IP: Logged |
Gabby Moderator Posts: 5453 From: Registered: Sep 2012
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posted February 21, 2015 09:39 AM
quote: Originally posted by Doux Rêve: You do trigger his natal configuration, Gabby, so naturally there will be a reaction. But depending on how integrated your own Neptune is, and how integrated his configuration is, it may prove productive or destructive (which in turn, can become a turning point for one or both people).Neptune has a gentle influence generally but can be subtly undermining, so if there's an unawareness going on, you might trigger his subconscious issues in some way and the way he reacts to this will be up to him. I'd be cautious but I think it's not as bad as if say, Mars/Uranus/Saturn/Pluto was there. Good luck.
Thank you Doux.....
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peony Knowflake Posts: 386 From: U.S. Registered: Dec 2014
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posted February 21, 2015 10:29 PM
quote: Originally posted by Gabby: Would this stellium create a huge imbalance in their will, drive, individualism and need to destroy and rebuild which is up against their karmic responsibilities and basic life structure? I met this guy and I've been talking to him...he seems pretty cool but this opposition looks kind of intense. Esp since it t-squares his NN. He must have some heavy weight he's carrying in this life! How do you think it would affect the person in real life?
Saturn-Uranus and Saturn-Pluto are the heavyweights. In my opinion, there is no doubt they are an explosive combination. Physically and in the psyche, they generate enormous tension and can manifest as physical symptoms, such as muscular armoring, and irritability at a minimum. He could be accident prone or he may have been confronted with violence in his life, and seen some pretty bad things. He may suffer from depression. I'd want to know if he's attracted to or attracts violence. What kind of books he reads, what kind of movies he likes. It may be that this configuration describes a violent father who "acted out," and a volatile relationship between father and son. If so, he would have been very frightening to a small child. The son wouldn't necessarily express these aspects outwardly or in the same way. Hopefully, he has found a way to channel these formidable energies in a positive way. Maybe extreme sports, or having a job that entails danger or high risk. That's what I'd want to know, also his relationship with his father. If any of these planets are conjunct or in hard aspect to the either the Moon or Venus, then red alert. One other thing, if all these planets square his nodes, then these are skipped steps, right? IP: Logged |
Gabby Moderator Posts: 5453 From: Registered: Sep 2012
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posted February 22, 2015 03:47 AM
quote: Originally posted by peony: Saturn-Uranus and Saturn-Pluto are the heavyweights. In my opinion, there is no doubt they are an explosive combination. Physically and in the psyche, they generate enormous tension and can manifest as physical symptoms, such as muscular armoring, and irritability at a minimum. He could be accident prone or he may have been confronted with violence in his life, and seen some pretty bad things. He may suffer from depression. I'd want to know if he's attracted to or attracts violence. What kind of books he reads, what kind of movies he likes. It may be that this configuration describes a violent father who "acted out," and a volatile relationship between father and son. If so, he would have been very frightening to a small child. The son wouldn't necessarily express these aspects outwardly or in the same way. Hopefully, he has found a way to channel these formidable energies in a positive way. Maybe extreme sports, or having a job that entails danger or high risk. That's what I'd want to know, also his relationship with his father. If any of these planets are conjunct or in hard aspect to the either the Moon or Venus, then red alert. One other thing, if all these planets square his nodes, then these are skipped steps, right?
Thank you Peony, that good food for thought!! I have the Saturn square Uranus...my dad was an absent father. So I get how that could affect in that way, it makes perfect sense!
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Gabby Moderator Posts: 5453 From: Registered: Sep 2012
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posted February 22, 2015 04:03 PM
quote: Originally posted by peony: Saturn-Uranus and Saturn-Pluto are the heavyweights. In my opinion, there is no doubt they are an explosive combination. Physically and in the psyche, they generate enormous tension and can manifest as physical symptoms, such as muscular armoring, and irritability at a minimum. He could be accident prone or he may have been confronted with violence in his life, and seen some pretty bad things. He may suffer from depression. I'd want to know if he's attracted to or attracts violence. What kind of books he reads, what kind of movies he likes. It may be that this configuration describes a violent father who "acted out," and a volatile relationship between father and son. If so, he would have been very frightening to a small child. The son wouldn't necessarily express these aspects outwardly or in the same way. Hopefully, he has found a way to channel these formidable energies in a positive way. Maybe extreme sports, or having a job that entails danger or high risk. That's what I'd want to know, also his relationship with his father. If any of these planets are conjunct or in hard aspect to the either the Moon or Venus, then red alert. One other thing, if all these planets square his nodes, then these are skipped steps, right?
Thank you Peony, that good food for thought!! I have the Saturn square Uranus...my dad was an absent father. So I get how that could affect in that way, it makes perfect sense!
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