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Ceridwen
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posted March 05, 2015 12:12 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ceridwen     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Hi,

I have a question concerning the orbs in declination.

As the declination changes so slowly in higher regions (let`s say from 20 N or S on), do you take that into account when looking at the aspects in declinations?

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Kannon McAfee
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posted March 05, 2015 06:27 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Kannon McAfee     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I don't tighten the orb, if that's what you mean. These are just transits/prog that last longer.

The exception to that is with calculated points in those extremes -- the Asc or MC.

I much prefer to see a potential Asc when progressed into Sag/Cap near extremes of declination tighten up to closer to exact (from 0*04' to 0*01-2') to validate the radix. But it depends on what is accompanying it. If there are other strong, tight aspects of either type (longitude or declination)for a prog. chart event happening simultaneously it can altogether lend validity to that radix.

So we're not talking a fixed rule here, but a preference that is relative to the whole aspect picture in the prog. chart.

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posted March 07, 2015 08:54 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ceridwen     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Thank you.
I was actually not thinking about predictive astrology, but about synastry, in which the likelihood increases that we might find a Venus-Sun-p if the Sun`s are p as well, in the higher regions, just for the fact that Venus and Sun do never have a great distance from each other and the Sun moves so slowly in these regions.

On the other hand the same thing could be said for the longitudinal aspects as well. If Suns are in conjunction, then Venus might be around somewhere too (more likely than if the Suns were further apart), but probably it doesn`t really make a difference for interpretation.


As for the progressions yes I can see your reasoning.
it`s important for me as I have a few planets up there in these regions.

Sun: 23°22 S
Mercury: 24°33 S
Venus: 24°06 S

p ASC: 22°57 S

it "looks" deceivingly close to my Sun (25 minutes, not THAT close, but still it looks valid).
However, if I I check for the times, it suddenly looks not that close anymore.

It was last exactly parallel my Sun in 2007, and took 8 years to move just 25 minutes of arc.
So your suggestion of just using maybe 3-4 minutes of arc (and less than that) certainly sounds very reasonable to me.

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posted March 07, 2015 03:21 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Kannon McAfee     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
For synastry tightening the orbs a bit from natal interpretation seems necessary to me. Luminaries maybe 1* is still good, but other planets, especially outer ones may need to go to 45' or less.

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posted March 07, 2015 03:45 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ceridwen     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
That`s what I thought.

Would you still count

Venus p Sun 0°43
Venus 22°39 S
Sun 23°22 S

Sun p Venus 0°42
Sun 23°24 S
Venus 24°06 S?


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posted March 07, 2015 08:19 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Kannon McAfee     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Yes, those are parallels.

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posted March 09, 2015 11:50 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Randall     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Thanks, Kannon.

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Ceridwen
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posted March 09, 2015 12:42 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ceridwen     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Thank you.

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