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comdoc Knowflake Posts: 850 From: Tucson Registered: Feb 2015	posted March 06, 2015 03:40 PM Aries Point in your natal chart reveals the potential for how you might become recognized in the world. While this does not necessarily mean you become a celebrity, expressing your strengths and talents through the Aries Point can lead to a solid reputation in your career field among your peers, clients and fans. What is an Aries Point? Aries Point is the 0 degree of Cardinal Signs: 0 Aries, 0 Cancer, 0 Libra, and 0 Capricorn. Using a 2 degree orb, we can include 28-29 degrees of Mutable signs (Gemini, Virgo, Sagittarius, Pisces) as well as up to 2 degrees of Cardinal signs. The Sun is at an Aries Point at the beginning of each new season (i.e. Spring equinox, Summer solstice, Autumnal equinox, Winter solstice.) True to this symbolism of ushering in of the new season, Aries Point is associated with creating visible changes in the outer world. Thus your Aries Point measurements suggests how you can impact (or become known in) the larger world using the quality of the planet or midpoint placed there. http://www.hniizato.com/aries-point-potential-for-public-recognition/ I have two AP planets in natal chart: Jupiter in 5th House and Moon in 11th House. Of note: my mother was born on a Full Moon along this same axis! My NN is conjunct MC, and SN is conjunct IC. I'm not famous yet! IP: Logged
astra7 Knowflake Posts: 1059 From: I live at 667 Registered: Sep 2014	posted March 06, 2015 03:46 PM My AP Mars conj. MC. Mars rules my 4th house (father) and 11th house. My father was well known publicly and my friends tend to be famous too. IP: Logged
SaturnFan Knowflake Posts: 729 From: Registered: Dec 2014	posted March 06, 2015 03:48 PM So they allow only 2 degrees leeway? Not 5 as with planetary aspects? For me, I have no planets within 2 degrees of any Aries Point but my MC is at 1 degree Sagittarius. Does the MC count? I do have 4 planets within 5 degrees of Aries points, but it looks like they wouldn't count. P.S. I'm not famous either. IP: Logged
page one unregistered	posted March 06, 2015 07:18 PM Research on this one should be easy. IP: Logged
Aubyanne Moderator Posts: 6727 From: Tinseltown, Hollyweird, The Multiverse Registered: Sep 2014	posted March 06, 2015 10:05 PM Someone was inspired by the 'ideal partner' thread ... Glad you did this, comdoc. I was definitely going in that direction. Indeed, SaturnFan. 2�. Maximum. IP: Logged
ail221 Moderator Posts: 7119 From: Hanging Gardens of Babylon Registered: Feb 2012	posted March 06, 2015 10:16 PM If only the orb was extended to 2.5 and my Venus would qualify. Well I have a lot of midpoints hitting the aries points though. Sun/Moon midpoint Venus/Uranus Moon/Jupiter Mercury/Pluto MC/Vertex Asc/Neptune IP: Logged
comdoc Knowflake Posts: 850 From: Tucson Registered: Feb 2015	posted March 06, 2015 10:59 PM I was really interested in this subject, and didn't want to hijack Lee's thread. quote: Originally posted by Aubyanne: Someone was inspired by the 'ideal partner' thread ... Glad you did this, comdoc. I was definitely going in that direction. Indeed, SaturnFan. 2�. Maximum. IP: Logged
SaturnFan Knowflake Posts: 729 From: Registered: Dec 2014	posted March 07, 2015 10:53 AM quote: Originally posted by Aubyanne: Someone was inspired by the 'ideal partner' thread ... Glad you did this, comdoc. I was definitely going in that direction. Indeed, SaturnFan. 2�. Maximum. Thanks Aubyanne! IP: Logged
Ceridwen unregistered	posted March 07, 2015 11:00 AM not sure if asteroids and midpoints count, but i have Vesta 1.22 Cap Sun/Venus 1.01 Cap Mercury/Venus oo.35 Cap IP: Logged
DeepFreeze unregistered	posted March 07, 2015 11:55 AM I don't have planets that near these points.(2*) But, reading your post. It's a similar feeling I had when reading about my NN. I can see the links! 3rd sag, 6th Pisces, 9th Gemini, and 12th Virgo. I'm too lazy right now to explain my thoughts on that but wow. Thank you for bringing this information to us. IP: Logged
Aubyanne Moderator Posts: 6727 From: Tinseltown, Hollyweird, The Multiverse Registered: Sep 2014	posted March 07, 2015 02:43 PM In order of importance: 1. Planets, then ASCENDANT, and MIDHEAVEN. (If either are on the Aries Point, then the second part of the axis is going to be secondary to the proximity of 00� ARIES.) 2. Asteroids (always go in order of traditional asteroid ranking; the 'big 5', and then so on in significance). That's it. Midpoints and house cusps do not count in regards to the APs. In theory, they COULD count, but as the Aries Point Degrees theory goes, the point is at a place at which there's an outpouring of energy. This is why it must be a single physical point. Which calls into question, Kim Falconer's suggestion that the ASC and MC can be involved. However, it's noted that it indicates the person is ASSOCIATED with fame, rather than themselves famous. That might be the 'distance' factor, as it's not a physical point. If, as Niizato is theorising a Midpoint can be used, then the original theory needs to be reworked to include it. As of yet, there's no basis in the initial principle of Aries Point Degrees to warrant using Midpoints. We may find that when a chart contains AP degrees, that fame, notoriety, or parts of it, can be better described by Midpoints on the AP degrees. That could be explored. IP: Logged
Ceridwen unregistered	posted March 07, 2015 03:03 PM Mr Sag has his Moon-MC-conjunction near the AP. Granted the orbs are a little widish (1�22 and 1�49), but I still find it interesting, and fitting. Moon rules his 5th house, MC is well MC, and it was not very difficult to gain recognition. In fact he remarked himself on how weird it was that while so many others were working so hard on being accepted at a certain acting school, he just went there to an audition on a whim really (and did not even had money enough to afford the trainticket back home, but apparently he found someone to help him out) and was suprised to be instantly called back/ accepted. Moon in Sagittarius on the MC on AP. (though of course he is ALSO a hard worker, ambitous, determined, especially now in his later years, and he had his fair share of rejections I guess, with Saturn squaring his Sun-Moon-MC, but also with Vertex on 28�24 Virgo and hence close to AP as well, he just happens to stumble across people whom he can work together with). I think one of his greatest talents and reason for being so popular is the ease with which he interacts with an audience or the public, no matter what social background the other person has, he just can make them feel personally spoken to and accepted. Moon in Sag conj. MC on AP. I think that is a very clear manifestation of this. IP: Logged
Ceridwen unregistered	posted March 07, 2015 03:06 PM BTW most astrologers I have read who work with the AP also work with midpoints on the AP. Not sure if it`s valid, I just remember that cosmobiology puts a lot of emphasis on these, too. Don Mc Broom lists them, too, in his book. IP: Logged
DeepFreeze unregistered	posted March 07, 2015 03:18 PM quote: Originally posted by Ceridwen: BTW most astrologers I have read who work with the AP also work with midpoints on the AP. Not sure if it`s valid, I just remember that cosmobiology puts a lot of emphasis on these, too. Don Mc Broom lists them, too, in his book. Ahhh... ok. Well that for sure puts my mars-Pluto MP on my asc. Not sure how to interpret that though. IP: Logged
ReeseC Knowflake Posts: 1209 From: Elysium Registered: Jul 2013	posted March 07, 2015 03:51 PM If my Mars is at 29* Pisces in the 7th house, and Venus is at 0* Taurus, do these count as being on the Aries Point? My progressed chart has my Sun/MC conjunct at 101', and 143' in Cancer, ASC at 143' in Libra, IC at 101' in Capricorn, and DSC at 143' in Aries. Both my natal and Progressed Sun is exact conjunct my MC which they say points to recognition(thought that was funny).......no fame yet period. (If they count)My natal midpoints: Moon-Venus: 110' Cancer Sun/MC-Saturn:156' Aries Pluto/NN: 2908' Sagittarius Mercury/NN: 2834' Pisces Saturn/NN: 240' Aquarius IP: Logged
Aubyanne Moderator Posts: 6727 From: Tinseltown, Hollyweird, The Multiverse Registered: Sep 2014	posted March 07, 2015 06:07 PM Then they really need to figure out the principles of their methodology, Ceri. Otherwise, the whole point of why the Aries Point is even valid, falls apart. IP: Logged
Ceridwen unregistered	posted March 07, 2015 06:21 PM Auby, I agree with you. I never understood why they were using it either. For me the midpoints come into play (in relation to the AP) ONLY through a planet configured with the AP itself. IP: Logged
Aubyanne Moderator Posts: 6727 From: Tinseltown, Hollyweird, The Multiverse Registered: Sep 2014	posted March 07, 2015 10:18 PM quote: Originally posted by Ceridwen: Auby, I agree with you. I never understood why they were using it either. For me the midpoints come into play (in relation to the AP) ONLY through a planet configured with the AP itself. IP: Logged
Randall Webmaster Posts: 100539 From: From a galaxy, far, far away... Registered: Apr 2009	posted March 09, 2015 11:48 AM Interesting! IP: Logged
astra7 Knowflake Posts: 1059 From: I live at 667 Registered: Sep 2014	posted March 09, 2015 03:39 PM You know, people talk about being famous is something good but there are other instances where you could become famous through unwanted attention for example. Anybody thought about this? IP: Logged
Blind writer Knowflake Posts: 651 From: Texas, USA Registered: May 2012	posted March 09, 2015 04:10 PM It isn't so much fame (or infamy) or popularity, so much as it is recognition for your actions/inactions/skills/etc. It is how others, in general, perceive you. I would look to Leo, and REGULUS in particular, for clues about popularity and fame. Leo is the sign of kings, and REGULUS is the most regal of the royal stars. The SUN is where we "shine" most brightly. However, info regarding Aries Points is always interesting to look at. People with prominent or active AP tend to be trend setters, which can be why it is also associated with recognition. IP: Logged
LeeLoo2014 unregistered	posted March 09, 2015 04:19 PM quote: Originally posted by DeepFreeze: Ahhh... ok. Well that for sure puts my mars-Pluto MP on my asc. Not sure how to interpret that though. I would say exceptional physical (or maybe psychological) force, but physical first comes to mind. Courage is also a possibility Superhuman physical force or endurance. You don't have to be a Hulk to have that, you can show it in an indirect way, for example by having an unusual) power of recovery (after illness), health or longevity. Or an unusual survival package. It should become apparent at some point in life, especially on the ASC. ------------------ I seem to have loved you in numberless forms... LeeLoo's Esotericorner IP: Logged
LeeLoo2014 unregistered	posted March 09, 2015 04:22 PM quote: Originally posted by ReeseC: If my Mars is at 29* Pisces in the 7th house, and Venus is at 0* Taurus, do these count as being on the Aries Point? My progressed chart has my Sun/MC conjunct at 101', and 143' in Cancer, ASC at 143' in Libra, IC at 101' in Capricorn, and DSC at 143' in Aries. Both my natal and Progressed Sun is exact conjunct my MC which they say points to recognition(thought that was funny).......no fame yet period. (If they count)My natal midpoints: Moon-Venus: 110' Cancer Sun/MC-Saturn:156' Aries Pluto/NN: 2908' Sagittarius Mercury/NN: 2834' Pisces Saturn/NN: 240' Aquarius Hi, Reese Although not exactly an AP, critical degrees, especially 0-2, connect to a "critical" destiny...something extraordinary is bound to happen or to be experienced in your life and Sun/MC yes, points to leadership and recognition...or a solar career/vocation ------------------ I seem to have loved you in numberless forms... LeeLoo's Esotericorner IP: Logged
SaturnFan Knowflake Posts: 729 From: Registered: Dec 2014	posted March 09, 2015 04:31 PM I have Eros at 29�49' Sagittarius, conjunct my Uranus/ Saturn conjunction in 11H. I have an 11H stellium - Uranus/ Saturn in Sag and Sun/Neptune/Mercury in Capricorn. Any idea what it means? IP: Logged
LeeLoo2014 unregistered	posted March 09, 2015 04:51 PM quote: Originally posted by SaturnFan: I have Eros at 29�49' Sagittarius, conjunct my Uranus/ Saturn conjunction in 11H. I have an 11H stellium - Uranus/ Saturn in Sag and Sun/Neptune/Mercury in Capricorn. Any idea what it means? IMO, that would be bringing Eros into the collective, a comunitary Eros so to speak Your stellium is infused with very concentrated Sagittarian Eros energy, ready to be unleashed. Eros is not just erotic stricto sensu, it can be a zest for life, a creative pursuit seeking to merge with others or nature, in a similar fashion to the erotic union. Yours tends to serve Sag/Aqua values. ------------------ I seem to have loved you in numberless forms... LeeLoo's Esotericorner IP: Logged

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