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alyssa27
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posted March 07, 2015 06:35 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for alyssa27     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
i have this awful aspect nearly exact and it's so hard for me to decide what job i wanna do..i hate it ..i'm always so confused about the career field..i'm not ambitious at all and i'm a leo sun powerful in the 1st,mars in 10th with many aspects mostly good..i give a few lessons the money are not enough of course,at least yet...my mother and bf supports me financially and i'm ashamed of this
also i didn't want to go to college but my mother wanted to and i have a college degree in something that i don't really like and i don't wanna have a job on that..
anyone who has the same aspect please share your experience..did you or do you have similar problems?..was it hard for you to choose what you wanna do for living?
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posted March 08, 2015 04:15 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for lalalinda     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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posted March 08, 2015 04:58 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for astra7     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
How about deciding not to work? Would that work? May be you have a wonderful aspect when it comes to relationship or friendship. I know of people who don't work but latch on to a rich partner. If that one fails, no problem. They are in another relationship the next day.

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posted March 08, 2015 08:52 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for alyssa27     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
astra7-it's like hearing my mother,she is convinced that i'm not gonna do anything in my life just marry a guy who will take care of me..she thinks that i can't have a stable income from my dancing..nevermind i wanna make it on my own for once..i need to prove it to myself first sometimes i think i can make it sometimes not ..actually my chart is a mess with heavy neptune and uranus sadly i can't avoid confusion..with moon in libra chart ruler and afflicted indecisiveness is my second name
i thought that i could find a temporary job but full time like a waitress or could try find a job in what i studied in college temporarily always but i will not have enough time for my artistic activities..and i really wanna hear from those who have the same aspect that they found their way in the career field..eventually
but it seems that not many have this tricky aspect

lalalinda-thank u for bringing this back to the top

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posted March 08, 2015 11:37 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for themischievousone     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I have neptune (3 cap) square mc (1 aries) in my natal chart.

I have always been fickle with what I wanted to do as a career and have made changes but always very ambitious and creative. I also have saturn trine mc 2 degrees and have moon in gemini chart ruler and a ton of uranus aspects as well. Probably doesn't help my fickleness.

Even had a significant other who was very willing and able to support me but I still ended up working for him and assisted with his company. learned so much about running a business.

Tried temporarily working as receptionist and hated it. I've tried a lot. One thing I've learned from all of it is how to take the creative things I like to do and market myself and try to make creativity profitable.
Doing a lot of part time activities helped.

My issue now isn't figuring out what I want to do, its trying to make my vision a reality. But at first it was difficult to figure out what to do for a living. Figuring it out has been recent for me. Fortunately I recently found a job in the field I want to be in.

Maybe posting your chart in personal readings and here might result in a couple of suggestions on what career paths may fit.

What kind of artistic activities do you do?

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posted March 09, 2015 05:56 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for astra7     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by alyssa27:
astra7-it's like hearing my mother,she is convinced that i'm not gonna do anything in my life just marry a guy who will take care of me..she thinks that i can't have a stable income from my dancing..nevermind i wanna make it on my own for once..i need to prove it to myself first sometimes i think i can make it sometimes not ..actually my chart is a mess with heavy neptune and uranus sadly i can't avoid confusion..with moon in libra chart ruler and afflicted indecisiveness is my second name
i thought that i could find a temporary job but full time like a waitress or could try find a job in what i studied in college temporarily always but i will not have enough time for my artistic activities..and i really wanna hear from those who have the same aspect that they found their way in the career field..eventually
but it seems that not many have this tricky aspect

lalalinda-thank u for bringing this back to the top



Oh I'm sorry to have sounded like your mother. Normally, I would have said, follow your heart but knowing how Neptune can lead you, it's tough going to fight it! If you want to pursuit art, it's a different matter. If you find a rich man, you can still do your art or whatever at lesuirly rate and not have to bother making money! The big question is....WHY do you have to prove yourself or anyone? Aren't you complete the way you are? If you have a perfection in mind, ask yourself, is there such perfect person in the world however they 'appear' successful in whatever they do?

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posted March 09, 2015 08:36 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for alyssa27     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
thank you both for your answers

themischievousone-i guess you have a cancer asc too!i also have an aries mc,also creative but ambitious not at all..i'm so happy for you finally working on what you want and i'm sure you will make all of your visions come to life..you gave me some hope.dance first and music which i started again this year,i had stopped my music lessons at 18-19 years old..started again my piano lessons i wanna get my certificate and music theory i have a certificate(harmony) from my teen years and i wanna get another two..i even want to start cello lessons as well,also have a nice singing voice my friends at some point pushed me to pursuit a singing career but it's not for me..

astra7-i know there isn't a perfect person or perfect anything..just sometimes i wanna know that i could be totally independent and if i want i could live on my own..maybe because noone believe that i can make it on my own..my friends and bf all are very career oriented and highly ambitious all in technical and science fields and as you understand art has not so much importance for them..maybe i haven't accepted yet that i'm just different from them and different doesn't mean less value and accept at last the fact that i couldn't be and i'm not what my family wanted me to be

my messy chart http://i1353.photobucket.com/albums/q661/annaki27/miocharttt1_zpsgnkbhnew.jpg

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posted March 09, 2015 12:24 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for astra7     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by alyssa27:
astra7-i know there isn't a perfect person or perfect anything..just sometimes i wanna know that i could be totally independent and if i want i could live on my own..maybe because noone believe that i can make it on my own..my friends and bf all are very career oriented and highly ambitious all in technical and science fields and as you understand art has not so much importance for them..maybe i haven't accepted yet that i'm just different from them and different doesn't mean less value and accept at last the fact that i couldn't be and i'm not what my family wanted me to be

my messy chart http://i1353.photobucket.com/albums/q661/annaki27/miocharttt1_zpsgnkbhnew.jpg [/B]



It's because that's how they/we have been programmed my dear. Think how ridiculous it is to think you are a less of a person unless you have a mortage and two cars before even accepted by the society i.e. so called friends. It's called 'Rat race' and people can't get off it because they are constantly reminded that that's the appearance they need to keep at it till one day they will be met by breakdown or other health issues. They have hardly any time to enrich their life and this is how the elites likes to keep most people. No time to think anything so that they won't have time to revolt or question authorities.

I'm on sick welfare, manage my finance and independent. Quite happy that way.

Look at your chart! You have NN in the 7th H. Obviously, relationship is the key. 7th house ruler Saturn so either you won't settle down till later or settle down with someone older. There you go!

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posted March 09, 2015 02:25 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for alyssa27     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
astra7-thank u for what you wrote..you are right..but being different from your friends,family and your social circle is really hard..i am the only artistic nature among my family and friends sometimes i think i born in the wrong enviroment my mother has absolutely no interest for art neither my father,i never knew him,but she told me that he had no interest either..it was hard.. but i can recognise that at least my mother have send me to the ballet and music school when i was little because she said i was dancing and singing all day..i will always thank her for that..i bet she has regret that now..i have to be fair and i think i have to accept myself first for the others to accept me..and it seems that i haven't accepted fully myself yet..

anyway i never dated anyone much older than me..as for marriage i don't wanna to marry yet..for me marriage means kids and being a mother seem so important to me..i have to be absolutely ready..and being honest i am still like a child myself definitely not ready to create a family ..as for relationships being the key i think it's true..relationships with the right persons like my bf(unlike my ex haha) give me balance

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posted March 09, 2015 02:31 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for themischievousone     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I do have a cancer asc as well. We both also have Mercury 26 leo

Astrology aside - if you are able to get financial support and pursue creative activities that you want to do (plus have a college degree backing you up), personally I think you should get your music certificates and continue your lessons while you have a chance to. Don't worry about friends in technical or science fields. If that's not what you like to do, you probably shouldn't do it. You know what you'd like to do so go for it. But again, just my opinion.

Think of the quote "Working hard for something we don't care about is called stress, Working hard for something we love is called passion".

Anyways back to astrology -
NN in 7th house/SN in 1st house - SN in 1st house normally has a me-first attitude and doesn't want partnerships messing with individuality. With NN in 7th, a good goal is to learn to relate to others and become more relationship oriented. astra7 said it better though.

Saturn in the 6th house - Sometimes I noticed some people with Saturn in the 6th are scared of not working.

The 10th house ruler Mars is in the 10th house - ambitious! Making a name for yourself and a career is something important to you.

Maybe partnering up with someone may also help with career success.


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posted March 09, 2015 02:58 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for astra7     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by alyssa27:
astra7-thank u for what you wrote..you are right..but being different from your friends,family and your social circle is really hard..i am the only artistic nature among my family and friends sometimes i think i born in the wrong enviroment my mother has absolutely no interest for art neither my father,i never knew him,but she told me that he had no interest either..it was hard.. but i can recognise that at least my mother have send me to the ballet and music school when i was little because she said i was dancing and singing all day..i will always thank her for that..i bet she has regret that now..i have to be fair and i think i have to accept myself first for the others to accept me..and it seems that i haven't accepted fully myself yet..

anyway i never dated anyone much older than me..as for marriage i don't wanna to marry yet..[b]for me marriage means kids and being a mother seem so important to me..i have to be absolutely ready..and being honest i am still like a child myself definitely not ready to create a family ..as for relationships being the key i think it's true..relationships with the right persons like my bf(unlike my ex haha) give me balance [/B]



Think of it this way, if all artists were the same like your friends are, then there won't be any art, it will be very boring. To be an artist, quite often you have to be very different from others to stand out. It comes with the territory. If you study, many successful artists, they do things that are not in vogue but in return they become the vogue, if you know what I mean. There are many of us, quite simply think we were not born on the right planet so you are not alone.

Again, your idea of marriage = kids, the ideology was programmed into you. It doesn't have to be. I chose not to have kids simply because I didn't want to inflict pain of this world. You know the schooling, bullying, then churned out at the end of the conveyor belt, you are meant to have a house, cars, kids etc..... Everbody was 'educated' to think the same...like robots.

You will never be ready for motherhood, not to put a curse on you but think of it this way....when will you be perfect as a person? We won't. We will always be a person in progress. It's the journey that matters.

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posted March 09, 2015 03:08 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for alyssa27     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
i won't stop my lessons,i love music too much and i forced to stop them because of college..i had to choose between dance and music didn't have enough time for continue both plus college lessons..i don't regret choosing dancing

my problem is that mars in 10th with so many aspects i'm not ambitious at all,not want to make a name or something and with sun in leo first i'm not dynamic not have first-me attitude..the grand cross and t-square describe me the most..i can identify more to libra moon cancer venus..i'm mostly quiet,indecisive and insecure not confident and not social and popular..
the only thing i can think is that the sun and mars describe the men in my life..the truth is that i'm attracted to confident,social ambitious men who have some kind of authority

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posted March 09, 2015 03:29 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for alyssa27     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
astra7-i'm glad to know there are others who feel that way..especially here on lindaland
i really hope i will be ready for kids someday..it's a dream of mine to create a family..but now this dream seem so far..well time will tell
astra are u in arts too?

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posted March 09, 2015 06:23 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for astra7     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by alyssa27:
astra7-i'm glad to know there are others who feel that way..especially here on lindaland
i really hope i will be ready for kids someday..it's a dream of mine to create a family..but now this dream seem so far..well time will tell
astra are u in arts too?

Yes I am but not making money as such.
If you want to have a family, you will reach a point where you feel there is unknown but have the feeling of...'give it a try and see'. Children brings unknown factors into your life. It's impossible to prepare for 100s of different scenario which may or may not manifest. lol I think if you can cook, clean, change nappy which is not hard to do...then you are probably good to go...the rest, you will figure out as and when necessary.

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posted March 09, 2015 07:11 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Kannon McAfee     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Neptune square MC is remedied by having a personal ideal set up for yourself (as per Edgar Cayce material on ideals) with the practical application outlined, or a grand vision for your life. This will allow you to direct yourself in career/work life better, create better domestic situations and to open up the right kind of doors of opportunity.

Generally indicated by this aspect, but not necessarily all for each person, are:
- creative work
- sacrificing obtainable material/worldly status for an ideal, idealism, simply spiritual life, or belief.
- religious/spiritual work
- social services to improve the lot of others
- a simplified, even minimalist home life in which peace and quiet are common

The square aspect is an unrelenting one, which means if it actually exists in your chart, it often involves being born into circumstances of a nebulous relationship between your parents or having an otherwise insecure home life growing up. This tends to nag at a person, causing them to adapt a belief in which they convince themselves of a different type of security. Or they associate themselves with an institution (like a religious, academic, etc) with the strength to make up for what they feel they lack. Sometimes guilt-inducing religious upbringing is the source of the problem even if it did not seem to be guilt-inducing or cause problems at the time.

Sometimes the best remedy is to think about not what you want to do, but how you want your life to be.

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posted March 10, 2015 11:49 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for alyssa27     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Kannon McAfee-thank you for your insights

my childhood was a hard one,never knew my father,my mother didn't wanna to talk about him much,i suffered from everyday nightmares from 5-7 years old i dreamed that someone got into our house and wanting to hurt me..talk about insecurity..had plenty of fears,i was very introverted..mother very unstable figure,she wanted me to be perfect while she made so many mistakes herself and didn't actually cared for my psychology and emotions..she cared for my external image and not for my messy internal world..anyway the mc/ic axes along with the venus(ruler of ic),moon,uranus/neptune describe it perfectly i think

as for to set a personal ideal or have a grand vision..truth is i never had one..except for improve and make as perfect as possible my technique..i think my personal ideal is to keep putting my feelings into my art..and yes i think you are right saying that i should focus more on how i want my life to be

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posted March 10, 2015 07:37 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Kannon McAfee     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
alyssa27,

Wow, that's quite a lot to go through as a youngster. Art and creative pursuits can be great therapy especially if you can make it a vocation. Personally, I hope you develop confidence to move forward with your creative work and develop it. Maybe you can make a living at it. You might have to engage your talents in a more commercial way for making a living, but that could keep them alive and vital for personal creativity that is for you alone and therapy for you.

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posted March 12, 2015 06:56 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for astra7     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
alyssa,
Don't feel bad about having many jobs and none have worked out.
Listen to Robert Greene's wisdom. He had 50 odd jobs which none seems to have come to anything until....
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gLt_yDvdeLQ

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posted March 12, 2015 04:15 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for alyssa27     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
thank u astra7 this was really really interesting...50 jobs??haha...he traveled a lot,changed jobs he seems fearless and having a restless nature..i checked his chart,it's quite interesting..i don't know his TOB but i bet that his moon-uranus conjunction is in a allowable orb..he has two kites born to succeed

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posted April 17, 2017 06:15 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Hemilla     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
i have it and i am finding myself in some things you people here mentioned - i dont know what i want to do,mine is in 6th in capricorn so i know it has to be stable and to bring security (and $$$ lol ) ,but i have no wish to work just anywhere ,but at the same time i take what i can in the moment saying i will do it for a short period untill i find what would fit me better. I allways say my ideal job would be the one where i am the boss,doing what i love with whom i love ,how much i love - something creative would be a dream come true,but for it to be ideal itd have to pay the bills - so its hard to find it .

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