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theunknown
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posted March 16, 2015 03:14 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for theunknown     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Any advices?

My venus is 1.50 degree from current pluto

Doesnt help that it's my chart ruler, scorpio is my descendent with natal pluto on top of it

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posted March 16, 2015 07:21 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Koho     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by theunknown:
Any advices?

My venus is 1.50 degree from current pluto

Doesnt help that it's my chart ruler, scorpio is my descendent with natal pluto on top of it


Pluto is squaring my Venus right now and getting tighter. Dunno what to expect myself

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posted March 16, 2015 08:09 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for peony     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
First thing that would be useful to know is if you are in a relationship or not.

Since you have Pluto on the cusp of the 7H, you're already familiar with it given Venus is the natural ruler of the 7H. But, how you experience this transit will depend on how you relate to Pluto. If you've worked on making Pluto conscious by self-inquiry, exploring your inner depths, or having been in therapy, if it's well aspected, if you have more fire and water rather than air or earth in your chart, you'll probably handle it better than if you have an earth or air preponderance of elements in your chart, Pluto in hard aspect, unaspected, or in the 12H, and/or you've experienced Pluto predominantly through your partners and other people.

If you're not in a relationship, you could meet someone and have a significant romantic encounter. If you haven't had much experience of life or are very idealistic in relationship, Pluto will present further challenges to your views, beliefs, and attitudes. I say "further" because it's likely this has already happened in the course of your life. Of course, this means sometimes feeling out of control. Most if not all of us have a hard time with this, but it's the nature of outer planets to take us beyond our comfort zone.

Pluto intensifies and empowers whatever it touches. It can bring drama and turmoil, so conjunct your Venus this would include not only relationships, but also your values and money. Matters pertaining to the 1H, your world view and identity, and also the house Venus is in will be affected.

Sexual triangles is a common theme with Venus-Pluto, and it also heightens sexuality or sex becomes an issue.

You could experience a break with the past, a significant rite of passage.

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posted March 16, 2015 09:34 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for polkadotstars     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I'm currently going through a Pluto Square Venus transit myself. It started in January, even though I just now found out about it. I'm kind of new to astrology, so I'm not sure how it will affect me, but my sun, moon, and mercury are all in the 8th house which is Scorpio- ruled by Pluto. So I think that means it will be pretty intense for me. I could be wrong though. However, the transit is going through my 6th house currently.

I read somewhere that this transit can make you obsessive about relationships. I started dating a guy for a few months, we ended it, and I still constantly think about him and I miss him greatly. I've never been like this before, I felt so deeply for him so quickly. Needless to say, he was a Scorpio Moon to my Pisces Moon, so I think I am just super attracted to Scorpios right now due to the Pluto transit, in addition to all the 8th House/Pluto in my chart.

However, I also read that this transit is supposed to make us shed our layers, so to speak, and get rid of things that no longer beneficial for us anymore. I've been going through a lot of changes and I'm changing dramatically. I've been getting rid of the old and looking forward to the new.

I think that once this transit is over, you're supposed to come out different that how you entered. It will make you stronger and you'll be at a better place in your life.

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posted March 16, 2015 11:11 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for theunknown     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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posted March 17, 2015 12:17 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for venus2tinkerbell     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
tPluto opposite nVenus (and Sun), and I am in pain, and exhausted- like winded while I sleep...

I pride myself on being a "good learner" of life lessons, rolling with the punches, picking myself up and brushing myself off, but I can't figure out where to plant my flag and say, "I have learned *this*"

It's very difficult for me not knowing what I am supposed to take away from this "lesson"

I'm getting it all. Love triangles (kind of an understatement), uncharacteristic sexuality, one damn exhausting infatuation after another- like different flavors of ice cream I suddenly go nuts over (I have an image of me smearing ice cream all over my face). I have ended and reignited this one relationship like 5 or 6 times since this transit began. I blame it on him, but that's not true. It's me.

I think if I am honest I will say that I have acted out rather than address any of my issues.

The devil on my left shoulder says: Frankly, I don't think I learned anything, except how effing crazy I am... Or perhaps how much Pluto doesn't agree with my ideal of love...

The angel on my right shoulder says: Just because I don't get it now, doesn't mean I won't later.

Maybe what I find exhausting is facing my own insanity.

I am looking to my finances to try to figure this whole thing out. It's like my money flow is frozen in time. There were times during this transit when I made a lot of money and I didn't feel the difference or the usual sense of security and relief I get when I'm "banking". Right now I should be feeling the strain of making less money, and still nothing. I don't know how I'm not feeling the stress of literally making less this month. I am experiencing the extremes, and it doesn't matter...maybe somehow I can connect this to the love, sex, passion, transformations, depth aspect of this transit...

...To Be Continued...

Not the same as Pluto conjunct Venus, of course. I think the type of aspect matters. I have Pluto square Venus natally, and that's a constant source of tragedy and excitement, but it just doesn't hurt as much as (and hasn't felt as good- have to admit, there have been moments) this unfamiliar transit.


Good luck to you theunknown. Even though I am in pain, and I want to say my bones and muscles ache when they don't, it's worth it. What would life be without the friction that reminds us we're alive?

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posted March 17, 2015 12:42 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for venus2tinkerbell     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
just another thought. I think it's one of the Interpersonal Mods that's always saying that when one person's planet touches another person's planet in synastry it's like a permanent transit (apologies if I misunderstood or am saying it incorrectly). So couldn't we think of it the other way around also? Like if you've ever experienced Pluto-Venus with someone you might have an idea of how the Pluto-Venus themes might manifest themselves in your life, and how you might react to them?

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posted March 17, 2015 06:53 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for AscTaurus     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Venus is the "pleasure principle" IME and IMPO.

So anything that is pleasurable or gives us delight is associated with Venus.

This could be relationships,mating rituals,sex, eating good food,money,reading a book, going to gym, spending quality time with your kids etc.

So Pluto(planet of "supercharge") aspecting your Venus usually means that these pleasurable things start to become the center of intense focus.

Its not enough for you to spend time with your kids anymore. You want to go to their school games, help out with their homework and be more of a "hands on" dad/mom.

Its not enough for you to paint anymore, you want to express your inner turmoil and feelings. The images become more dramatic, more eye-catching and art becomes a new found way to express yourself.

Its not enough for you to have sex anymore. You want to experience the "ultimate orgasm". So you study various techniques and body stimulants to help you go "all night long" or read books that inform you on those cardinal points of intimacy.

Whatever it is that you enjoy doing, you start to go "all out" with it.

Some experience a "death" in what they find pleasurable or discover something completely new that they never knew they had a talent/ would delight in.

The house Venus rules will specify which area of life you find most pleasurable or enjoyable. And the subsequent aspect of Pluto on your Venus,may turn that area into more than just a "playground".

If Venus rules the 3rd house and you already enjoy the time spent with your neighbours. The transit of Pluto could have one of them share something very deep with you or hold you in their confidence-thereby strengthening the bond between you two.

If Venus rules the 3rd house and your relationships with your siblings is trying(to say the least and not at all as Venus descriptions suggest).

The transit of Pluto may give you insight as to how to revolutionize it or transform it into something more intimate.

Or it could on the other end,influence you to just "write it off".

Pluto pulls no punches and can be quite absolute!

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posted March 17, 2015 04:11 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for theunknown     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by venus2tinkerbell:

Good luck to you theunknown. Even though I am in pain, and I want to say my bones and muscles ache when they don't, it's worth it. What would life be without the friction that reminds us we're alive?


Haha, thanks! I am not sure after Saturn sat on top of my natal pluto, squaring my sun, mercury and saturn in 7th, I want any more pain ...


@ascTaurus: So since Venus rules my first and 6th house, does that mean my relationship with work and myself would change?

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posted March 18, 2015 07:20 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for AscTaurus     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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@ascTaurus: So since Venus rules my first and 6th house, does that mean my relationship with work and myself would change?

I think that you should first determine what manifestation Venus takes on in your life?

Are you the "relationship" Venus? The type that is always having recurring issues in that area of life? Whether it is with friends,family or the lover?

Are you the "don't touch the hair" Venus? The type that is always dressing well,smelling great and very attentive to how you physically appear?

Are you the "money minded" Venus? Always minding your budget,working very hard at your job/career and ensuring that you save or spend it tenaciously?

Are you the artistic Venus? Essentially with a strong imagination,focused in bringing beauty to form, involved with ideals and more on the creative field?

Are you the "good times" Venus? More concerned with good times,excessive in indulgence and likely to go over-budget?

First establish how Venus manifests in your life/what themes Venus broadly covers in your life.Then work from there.

So I for instance am the "miser" Venus. I am concerned with money mostly: How to save it,when to spend,how to spend,if I have enough? etc.

The other focus of my Venus is on physical appearance:I care about how I look and love to enhance my appearance through molding a physique that is aesthetically beautiful(to me). I also enjoy getting a haircut and having my facial hair shaped now and then.

The least concern for me is relationships. There are only 2 relationship that I am most concerned with namely;the relations with my immediate family as well as those with my long-term friend.

Either than that,I am single and have been single for 2 years. I just don't "go in" with love relationships as far as I do with the above two areas of Venus.

So if I read the conventional Pluto transit of Venus,most will say "love relationship this, love relationships that" and I will not relate.As that is not an area I am focused on.

But I know that should I experience a transit to my natal Venus,money will start to be an issue, maybe my physical appearance will come under review. Or someone within my immediate family will affect me in some way.

The nature of Pluto will broadly signify the circumstances concerned i.e a drastic change(Pluto) in money circumstances, a transformation in terms of physical appearance perhaps? Or even the ending/deepening of the relationship with one of the members of my immediate family/friend.

A transit felt most pertinently in the area of life where one is touched by.

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posted March 18, 2015 12:43 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for venus2tinkerbell     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
^ excellent points!

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posted March 18, 2015 03:02 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for theunknown     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
@AscTaurus: funny thing I am also a taurus rising and we are known to either stay in relationships or single haha. I read the description too and as a cap mars, I am pretty much workaholic so I am not a relationship type of person. But I read that this is the transit that could introduce someone that challenges these patterns of my life. So far, it has! I know some astrologers use 2 degrees, some use 3 but I have been pushed or challenged to enter relationships.

Have you gone through this transit before?

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posted March 18, 2015 08:41 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Aubyanne     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
tPLUTO made a few 1º-3º30 trines and two exact to my nVENUS (one direct, one retro) between January 2010 to October 2013. Each of these incidents was rather significant.

I met my Guardian when it was 3º25 orb, late January 2010. We began to explore a relationship around 08 April 2011, when it stationed at 1º05 orb. Its first retrograde lasted until 15 September, stationing again, at 3º orb. (Curiously, tVENUS was in 01º LIBRA, one of the APs. I'll explain why that's intriguing later.) It never really got off the ground, fading back into a platonic dynamic.

The exact trine came on 08 February; my 'ex' Twin and I were attempting a relationship after failed stops and starts since 2008. (And, yes, I do have an 'ex' Twin Flame; it's a long story I won't get into here, if you don't mind!)

Its second retrograde came at a 1º00 trine to my nVENUS 10 April 2012 -- like a strange deja vu of the year prior. This time, however, trouble was brewing, and our confidence in the relationship was fast diminishing. In fact, when the trine was 0º00, 15 June 2012, we were both convinced it wasn't going to work. Alas, we kept trying, though in vain. It stationed and returned to direct motion once again, 16 September, the trine at 1º30.

The shot was fired across the bow in mid-December, as the trine was 0º00 for the second time, this time, direct, 12 December 2012. (Yes. On 12/12/12). By January, we were done. (Well, I was.)

Its final retrograde (during this period) was 12 April 2013, at 3º00, right as it crossed the cusp into my 5H. My Guardian suddenly confessed that his feelings for me had never waned; he was merely being respectful while I tried to resolve my prior relationship.

It stationed once more on the autumnal equinox, with tSUN at 00º LIBRA and a 0º30 trine to my nVENUS. Remember that prior tVENUS at 01º LIBRA? There's an interesting resonance between these two tPLUTO stations during this particular revolution. These also are conjunct my nSATURN, 1º -- which is my 5R and conjunct my nJUNO.

When the trine was 1º00, my Guardian and I began an official relationship. It wasn't entirely cemented, but we both agreed we were beginning a real relationship. When the trine was 2º00, we began a sexual relationship, roughly a month later. It was also making a 0º00 trine to my nASC, incidentally.

The exact trines are over, though it'll remain within orb, very widely, pretty much until the end of the year, with another retrograde period in May. But, if you ask me, it's outside of the orb I'd consider to be influential, and I'd say that my 'PLUTO trine VENUS transit' has concluded.

It brought two significant relationships into my life, or deepened them. And, once they were done, it transformed my concept of love; what I need -- and deserve -- in a relationship. I've learnt to love more deeply and unconditionally. I was able to release the one that was bad for me (my 'ex' Twin) and return to and develop the one that's right for me, with my Guardian.

I'd say that the conjunction will have the same intense, transformative influence. It'll give you the opportunity to think -- deeply -- about your relationships, and to transform the area of your life which nVENUS rules.

I suggest keeping a journal, meditating, and, if you don't have the love in your life that you desire, work on developing an even greater self love, and see what happens. Either way, you'll be happier and more fulfilled.

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posted March 18, 2015 10:36 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for theunknown     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Thanks Aubybane. I saw threads on your ex twin and I understand the complexity of the matter.

I'll take your advice to heart

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posted March 19, 2015 02:56 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for AscTaurus     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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@AscTaurus: funny thing I am also a taurus rising and we are known to either stay in relationships or single haha. I read the description too and as a cap mars, I am pretty much workaholic so I am not a relationship type of person. But I read that this is the transit that could introduce someone that challenges these patterns of my life. So far, it has! I know some astrologers use 2 degrees, some use 3 but I have been pushed or challenged to enter relationships.

Have you gone through this transit before?



I have gone through it yes. But I was very young.

And conventional astrology suggests that any transits under the age of 12,are more likely to affect the parental figures than they are the child.

But I remember moving to a new neighborhood where my sister and I got brand new bikes. I was so happy.

So I think in regards to Venus affecting that part of me(through the parents)that is most concerned with money,I suppose my parent's financial situation was vastly improved that year of the Pluto conjunction.

It was that year that they bought their 1st home.

And in as far as your Cap Mars is concerned, it tends to make one devote a lot of energy into managing activities to enhance one's personal status; most likely the career.

I also am currently enjoying the square aspect of Pluto transit to my natal mars in Libra.

I don't think that this aspect will result in me meeting someone(Venus/Libra are usually about social/love interests more than anything else).

But I do think that I should be ever more vigilant about what I say with regards to trying to "fix" things or preventing arguments and stand-offs etc.

More people are asking for my advice and counsel(Mars in Libra). Most likely to take it quite literally. And the possibility of them taking it and it not working out quite as well as they may have wanted is possible(square aspect to transiting Pluto).

I resist telling people how to solve their problems or giving personal advice. More especially with traPluto conjunct natal Mercury, my words have a lot of weight!

It's really more apt to seek out a monastery now and become a monk

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posted March 19, 2015 03:34 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Aubyanne     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by theunknown:
Thanks Aubybane. I saw threads on your ex twin and I understand the complexity of the matter.

I'll take your advice to heart


Oh, good, theunknown. I'm glad that you're 'up' on all of that craziness. 'Complexity', indeed.

But, yes, just hang in there. Transformation is the keyword when it comes to PLUTO, and on VENUS, it tends to change the way we approach love, relating, and even aesthetics. But that's because it's likely time for an overhaul anyway.

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My boyfriend is actually going to be experiencing this. He has a venus Mars conjunction in Aries in his 8th house and transiting pluto in Capricorn is going to be squaring this conjunction off and on for the next few years....

Any advice? What should I watch out for? As his girlfriend, how should I handle this? What are the possibilities with him having this aspect?

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posted March 19, 2015 12:32 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Kannon McAfee     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by theunknown:
Any advices?

My venus is 1.50 degree from current pluto

Doesnt help that it's my chart ruler, scorpio is my descendent with natal pluto on top of it


This can be a period of transformation of your values as attached to your basic identity. Don't expect it to feel comfortable at all times.

It can mean deepening love, feelings of attachment or overwhelming affection. Understand these are transitional states of emotion that can fuel your passion for living and do not come from another person as much as from your soul and your nature as a human being born from and living in the ultimate power of Creative Love.

It is quite likely that you will either begin a new relationship that changes your life, be it mate or children, but most likely during this time you will meet and be strongly affected by more than one such person in varying roles who are assistants in your personal growth.

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Originally posted by Kannon McAfee:
Understand these are transitional states of emotion that can fuel your passion for living and do not come from another person as much as from your soul and your nature as a human being born from and living in the ultimate power of Creative Love.


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posted March 19, 2015 11:08 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for theunknown     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Thanks KM

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posted March 21, 2015 11:22 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Randall     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Thanks, Kannon.

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posted March 21, 2015 11:56 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for iliketurtles     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I had teh square. t. pluo still going through my 12th. venus rules my 5th - wasted 2.5 years crushing on a dumb*** , had an annoying (mutual) crush that was a little taboo, creepy guys ahoy especially at the workplace (venus also rules my 10H). it was mostly annoying, frustrating and i wanted to throttle a lot of people. if you are a meek person (like i was) this transit will definately toughen you up a bit if not a whooole lot

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posted March 23, 2015 07:49 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Randall     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Good answers, everyone.

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