posted March 24, 2015 03:46 PM              

I g Pisces Sun and Venus conjunct my NN in Pisces all in the same house.

posted March 24, 2015 08:15 PM            

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Originally posted by venus2tinkerbell:
After all that I got my personality profile reading, which is free, but takes a few days. That's probably what you got Koho? Well originally I just did the quick test where I entered my bday. This personality profile used more information and now I am a 23/5. This makes much more sense! LOL!

I love how I can draw truth and gain acceptance for most things though, lol (above quote and revelations). But I really like and feel comfortable with 23/5. I still have to study this profile, but it's very cool.

...but the life path number listed at the top of the page are 1-9 11, 22, 33. Where's 23?

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That's odd. The only commonly recognized numbers outside of the 1-9 are 11, 22, 33 then 44 by a distance. I wasn't aware anyone used 23/5, most would just consider it a 5.

posted March 24, 2015 08:18 PM            

It'll be a way of learning about different NNs and Life Paths all at once.

posted March 24, 2015 10:56 PM            

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Originally posted by Koho:
Thanks for the responses everyone. I appreciate them. Mixed results but I'll look at everyone's combo at some point this weekend if I have time.

It'll be a way of learning about different NNs and Life Paths all at once.

For those that do see a connection I'm glad, and I hope it gives a little extra insight.

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I like your posts, Koho. I am trying to figure out my own North Node story, so many of your NN posts are interesting and helpful.

posted March 24, 2015 11:39 PM            

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Originally posted by venus2tinkerbell:
ok, so

Life Path 22

2nd house Virgo NN conjunct Saturn

Taurus MC conjunct Moon

My main trouble with 22 is this, "If not practical, someone with this number can waste their potential." I'm practical. I'm just not organized or efficient. People around me consider me industrious, but no. My productivity does not match what I know and what I can do.

So I think the MC, in it's best expression should have some connection to our life path, right? Well once again, at the MC is the Moon exalted in Taurus. Realization of my 22 involves incorporation of both nodes of the Moon. And that NN Virgo is telling me just exactly what I need to work on.

Koho, you mentioned 22ers being late bloomers well in Vedic astrology Saturn in the 2nd house puts restraints on a persons career success (along with a bunch of other restrictions and limitations) until that person is about 35. After maturity, Saturn feels the person has learned their lesson in this area. The person can then be exceedingly successful in whatever they do, because of Saturn's lessons.

...also...I read somewhere that a Cancer woman doesn't really reach her full bloom or maturity until 35. I only read that one place, but I was like, yeah that's me for sure.

I should call you Koho, the giver of gifts, bringer of glad tidings? Are you ready for your Native name? Lol. Just joking. I can't name you. But yes, you are a gift giver.

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If you are 22 rather than the 23/5 I'd watch this video -

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kFR4jmCcCQY

You might know her from her astrology videos. She does a good job explaining the 22/4 troubles. It takes a lot of struggle for the 22/4 to get it together because the 22 is a double intuitive number, (2)(2). Helps with forward thinking, and gives you the ability to visualize goals and ideas but it needs practice to be made practical. Eventually the 22 finds a practical route to apply their ideas to create the 4, which is about building something.

I would not be surprised if you're in fact a 22/4. An Enneagram type 4 person is probably a good match for a 22/4 life path. So is an Enneagram type 8. But I'd imagine the type 4 would be more creative but find it more difficult to get the practical bit going.

I can definitely see a Virgo NN 2nd houser having a 22/4 path. I'd have to think on it more but it is a very concrete house that might make it a good fit for a 22. I'll have to think on your Taurus MC to see how it fits.

posted March 24, 2015 11:42 PM            

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Originally posted by tbelle:
I like your posts, Koho. I am trying to figure out my own North Node story, so many of your NN posts are interesting and helpful.

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Thank you! I understand the trouble. Though my own NN sign and house combo as well as my MC are easy compared to others I try to make sense of others people combination and it is so much more difficult for me.

posted March 25, 2015 01:09 AM              

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Originally posted by Koho:

btw if you call me the giver of gifts I feel like I should have some kind of velvety cape to go along with the name as I hand out gifts. It just seems right.

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posted March 25, 2015 01:14 AM              

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Originally posted by Koho:
If you are 22 rather than the 23/5 I'd watch this video -

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kFR4jmCcCQY

You might know her from her astrology videos. She does a good job explaining the 22/4 troubles. It takes a lot of struggle for the 22/4 to get it together because the 22 is a double intuitive number, (2)(2). Helps with forward thinking, and gives you the ability to visualize goals and ideas but it needs practice to be made practical. Eventually the 22 finds a practical route to apply their ideas to create the 4, which is about building something.

I would not be surprised if you're in fact a 22/4. An Enneagram type 4 person is probably a good match for a 22/4 life path. So is an Enneagram type 8. But I'd imagine the type 4 would be more creative but find it more difficult to get the practical bit going.

I can definitely see a Virgo NN 2nd houser having a 22/4 path. I'd have to think on it more but it is a very concrete house that might make it a good fit for a 22. I'll have to think on your Taurus MC to see how it fits.

Cafeastrology has a very good numerology report generator. It is excellent and includes the other important factors like life cycles, pinnacles, and challenges, which I find match transits people go through in their lives.

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Ok, I have my homework, and I'll do it. And I've got your brain in my corner? Awesome!

posted March 25, 2015 01:30 AM              

Actually, I was starting to think that 22 really matched Virgo NN in 2, like you said...

But I'm not confused. I'm just inspired to do more research.

I'm going to watch Alyssa to learn about your Life Path number though.

I'll be back with some more thoughts.

In the meantime, here's a bit about 5

"Those with a Life Path of 5 seek freedom above all else. They are adventurers, having a restless nature, and being on the go, constantly seeking change and variety in life. They have a free spirit and need to have variety in their day. If they do not live the adventure, their lives become way too dramatic.

They love meeting new people, trying new things, and living life for today, and curiosity leads them to constantly try to find the answers to life's questions. "Conservative" is a word that is probably never used to describe them, as they love taking risks, and hate routine and repetition.

Fives have a hard time settling down and have a fear of being trapped or smothered in a relationship. Their love of freedom extends beyond concern only for their own freedom, and they have a genuine concern for the freedom and welfare of others. Although Fives are extremely compassionate, their focus on adventure and curiosity can also distract them and keep them from being aware of the feelings of those around them. Furthermore, because they are always seeking the next adventure, their life can lack direction, and this can cause them to become discontent and impatient.

Fives are very persuasive and excel at motivating people which makes them ideal candidates to become salesmen. Any career requiring travel is also a great fit for those with Life Path number 5, since it will keep them away from the routine of many other jobs, otherwise they may feel a sense of restlessness if they get stuck in a mundane or repetitive job environment. Fives are also very versatile, which makes many other career choices suitable for them. A person with a lot of 5's in their chart will want to be their own boss. This person will not enjoy working a 9 to 5 job where they have to report to someone else each day.

Life path number 5 is the number of freedom and change. Below are some key points you might want to take into consideration to help you on your path …

Don't try to deny who you are. Security is a great thing, but you need your escapes. Find a way to satisfy that wandering urge or you'll be miserable.

Aim for a career that lets you have adventures. You are capable of great originality in both thought and action. You could do something as dramatic as being a photographer for National Geographic or as simple as being a flight attendant.

You can be self-indulgent, especially if you let yourself get bored. Allow yourself to enjoy your spirit of adventure and you'll be able to find excitement in a walk around the block. If you can't travel, at least try new restaurants.

posted March 25, 2015 02:16 AM              

I watched Alyssa. She was really serious about people understanding, lol. That was cool. What do you think about this video for 22 (11, 33, 44)? You can be honest if you don't like it.

Master number 11 matches my Pisces SN inclinations to a T... Anyway, sorry to be this man's groupie. Here's his vid.

So here's 22
http://youtu.be/2QYX60ZvHQM

Here's 5
http://youtu.be/uA88nQCNYIM

posted March 28, 2015 11:20 PM            

I never noticed this before, but I find it interesting that my life path is ruled by Saturn and my chart seems to have a repetitive Cancer/Capricorn Moon/Saturn theme.

-I'm a Cancer Asc with Leo Moon in 1st. The Moon is also my dominant planet.
-I have Sun conjunct IC from the 4th and Saturn conjunct MC from the 9th.
- Sun, Venus, Chiron, Mercury, NN are in 4th.
-Saturn is opposite Sun, sesquiquadrate Moon, quincunx Mercury, sesquiquadrate Mars, and trine Ascendant.
- Saturn is at the Apex of my Thors Hammer that involves my Moon and Mars.
- My Virgo Sun is also in Cancer duad.
- I also have asteroid Karma in my 1st house (and Life path 8 is all about karma seems like lol... how fitting).

posted March 29, 2015 02:07 AM            

Dang- this makes a lot of sense to me!

The Life Path 9 suggests that you entered this plane with an abundance of dramatic feelings coupled with a strong sense of compassion and generosity. The key to the nature of a Life Path number 9 person is found in their humanitarian attitude. Even the very average of those with life path 9 possess extremely compassionate tendencies.

Usually this number produces an individual that is very trustworthy and honorable, and one unlikely to harbor any sort of prejudice. Obviously, this is a rather tall order, but you are, in fact, a person that feels very deeply for individuals less fortunate than yourself, and if you are in a position to help, you certainly will. The 9, being the highest of the single digit numbers, holds an elevated position in terms of responsibilities to mankind.

Material gains are not overly important, although the quality of some life path 9 people is such that they are materially rewarded in very significant ways. In this, however, the 9 Life Path is not apt to get rich since they are very generous, sometimes to a fault, and usually have an easy come, easy go attitude about money. The rare 9 life path has a totally selfless attitude, giving up of material possessions for the common good.

The 9 Life Path indicates you have a commanding presence. You have the ability to make friends very easily, as people are attracted to your magnetic, open personality. The term "hail-fellow" may have been coined to describe a 9 Life Path, as you may indeed be one of those who is generally upbeat and heartily friendly and congenial. You meet people easily and are quickly befriended because of your openness and amiable demeanor. Your genial ways often put you in the lead in whatever field of endeavor you pursue.

posted April 07, 2015 08:23 PM            

For Venus,

I hear you. I'm definitely hoping to help out your trouble sometime soon. Hopefully when I start thinking about your NN and things I can offer a perspective you haven't considered.

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Actually, here's something.

For now SaturnFan's analysis was very very good. Neptune conjunct Pisces South Node definitely makes the fight you've had all along so much harder. I'd imagine, like Saturn said, you need to develop that Earthy practicality of your Virgo 2nd NN.

Remember, I think you said you're a Life Path 5, the greatest warning of the LP 5 is to marshal themselves into discipline to achieve the freedom they crave - stability, perhaps self employment, by cultivating their strength. Whatever that particular strength it is.

Your Virgo NN in the 2nd shows you the strength you need to cultivate to achieve the 2nd house stability that would in turn give you the freedom a 9th South Node would crave. Remember, 9th house represents -

"The Ninth House is the sphere of high studies, both physical and mental journeys (philosophy, spirituality), rebelliousness, changes of scenery, desire for dealing with the unknown. It is in analogy with Sagittarius and Jupiter. It is a cadent house, less important than the angular and succedent ones."

The key here is rebelliousness, change of scenery, and the general expansiveness of Jupiter and travel - freedom. A person with this South Node craving could act without purpose, erratic, and do what they will all the time and achieve that as a form of freedom. But, as suggested by the Life Path 5, the true freedom may lay in cultivating your talent to reach the stability and success you crave (Leo Ascendant does like the finer things?)

You'll always want this. Just keep telling yourself the best way to truly get this is to achieve that 2nd NN stability, get disciplined, analytic, competent like the Virgo (not the Virgo people but the abstract energy) in that arena you've always eyed with success.

Because remember, like the Enneagram type 4, you can either fall into the average levels where fantasy rules you, or you apply that Pisces South Node talents to something purposeful in that will bring you the NN stability. No fantasies, work.

That's the current analogy I find between your Node axis, your LP, and your self-typing of the 4. Pisces SN is in analogy with the type 4 to dream of the want, your 9th SN is in analogy with the LP 5 want of freedom. All are solved by a dedicated Virgo work ethic toward the stability represented by the 2nd house.

Hopefully I'm a little warm here. If I am then the next step is for you to fill in the gap with the details. So just walk around thinking what part of your daily life can you tackle a little more Virgo-like without indulging in your fantasy without totally giving up that wonderfully creative side of you.

It's also worth noting, like the 22/4, the 5 is a late bloomer but for seemingly different reasons. From what I can tell it is the 5 wanting freedom and to be their own person that ends up making them a late bloomer. The 22 seems to just have trouble in finding practical purpose. The troubles here are murky and I'll think on it further to refine the difference.

Another way I can put it is since I'm your mirror - I'm applying my Virgo SN talents to achieve my very hopeful Pisces 11th NN. Meaning I'm working toward that humanitarian ideal with a Pisces sense of empathy and compassion through means of Virgo-like practicality, attention to detail, and general sense of work. Virgo is the means to my Pisces 11th NN end.

posted April 08, 2015 01:08 AM              

It is so generous of you to give your time and attention to my NN/SN comedy. I am going to call it a comedy, because as difficult as it is now, I know in the end I will be happy, and I will make other people happy.

Speaking of happy, I absolutely love reading about about your future. I don't want to talk about plans. If you see it, I believe it already is. It's just a matter of arriving or showing up.... Your energy and drive are seriously uplifting! All three of you, SaturnFan, Freespirit, and you are excellent communicators- very uplifting, and I appreciate your insights. Just a random thought, but I can't wait until you are calling yourself Admiral Koho, The Astrologer. I do love fantasies.

"Hopefully I'm a little warm here. If I am then the next step is for you to fill in the gap with the details. So just walk around thinking what part of your daily life can you tackle a little more Virgo-like without indulging in your fantasy without totally giving up that wonderfully creative side of you.

It's also worth noting, like the 22/4, the 5 is a late bloomer but for seemingly different reasons. From what I can tell it is the 5 wanting freedom and to be their own person that ends up making them a late bloomer. The 22 seems to just have trouble in finding practical purpose. The troubles here are murky and I'll think on it further to refine the difference.

Another way I can put it is since I'm your mirror - I'm applying my Virgo SN talents to achieve my very hopeful Pisces 11th NN. Meaning I'm working toward that humanitarian ideal with a Pisces sense of empathy and compassion through means of Virgo-like practicality, attention to detail, and general sense of work. Virgo is the means to my Pisces 11th NN end.

Sometimes I think of the opposition as energy that needs to be brought together. No different with the NN and SN opposition. Bring your SN talents to that NN purpose but don't be your SN without the NN purpose"

That's it, right there.

"No fantasies, work"
"No fantasies, work"
"No fantasies, work"

I want to add more about how more than warm you are, but there is something inside of me that wants to do less talking and more doing. I hope once I gained some deeper understanding and fully embraced what you've shared above (I really appreciate your insights about oppositions. I completely agree) I can come back to this thread and "wow" you.

posted October 21, 2018 12:30 AM            

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Originally posted by yellowelevator:
I am a 33. My North Node is in Sagittarius in the 6th house, and my MC is in Pisces. I would say it matches a bit, yes, especially with a Pisces MC.

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posted October 21, 2018 12:38 AM            

I am still waiting to see those leaderskills and orgsnizationskills happending for me.
I can be goal oriented, im a cap, but my pisces moon makes me a drifting on the inside, and into other and surroundings. Also got my sun heavy aspected with conjunctions.
But i'd wish they could write more about the esoteric side of the nr 8.
I have noticed that the esoteric cap fits my inner picture of my self better.

posted October 21, 2018 10:11 AM            

I feel like I could be a late bloomer because of North Node in Capricorn. I'll probably start making serious progress during or after my first Saturn Return.