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3l3n
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posted March 26, 2015 06:18 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for 3l3n     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Basically all my life I have been a freelancer. multitasking but not really chasing one specific goal for my future.

I always like to learn new things and work on them.. until I get tired again with that 1 specific object and jump to the other.

I do have many skills, but never actually focused on one enough to keep upgrading my knowledge or pursue it as a real job/career.

As I'm getting older I'm getting even more confused as to what could be that something I should be pursuing as a job or career? also my life path

Existensial crisis? could be :/

Would many planets and asteroids in the 9th house squaring 6th house and opposing my NN be part of the "problem?

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Soltze
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posted March 26, 2015 07:27 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Soltze     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
What about your 10th house and the MC? Do you have something there?
And the ruler of the 6th? Is the planet in a good condition or under tense aspects?
It's difficult without a chart :-D
Your explanation does make sense.
But I would look at the planets first before exploring the asteroids.

When you said multitasking the voice in my head just said "Gemini/Mercury/Uranus stuff". But I can't guess :-D

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posted March 26, 2015 10:14 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for 3l3n     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I will post my chart for a little so that it will make things a little easier to understand what I mean

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posted March 26, 2015 10:53 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Solar_Leo_Queen     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Gemini rising tends to do that. I know because I am one. For a Gemini riser, life is all about learning various things all at once, making us "jack of all trades". We almost never have one thing that we focus on. To add to that, you have Aries on the 10th house. Gemini already gets bored easily, add that Aries energy and you have someone who jumps in and out of projects without really finishing them. Then you have your 10th house ruler (Mars), in Pisces, which is the sign that gets confused the most.

You could try using your Saturn's energy to ground your Mars and the rest of your chart. Make a long-term commitment and don't quit just because you're getting bored of it. Saturn in Virgo is about routines and being disciplined. If you become someone who is able to follow a routine and be more disciplined, you can balance the mutable energies in your chart. But make sure the commitments you make are things you really love doing and has a lot of creative freedom in it. You also need to be able to satisfy your Moon and Neptune in the 6th house to be able to achieve a happy and successful career.

As for your earlier question about planets in the 9th house and the NN, I don't think it plays into this as much as the 10th and 6th house. But that's just my opinion.

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posted March 26, 2015 10:54 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for 3l3n     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I think that my Gemini asc has a lot to do with me not being able to stick to one thing at a time. Being in a square aspect to the Sun does probably bring out the indecisive part.

Mutables are not easy to handle sometimes, especially when you really want to put your life in order

Uranus in the 5th does make me a little eccentric when it comes to my art. design & music. Also I catch up on things regarding electronics very easy .Not so much in theory though,but in practice

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posted March 26, 2015 11:39 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for 3l3n     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Solar_Leo_Queen:
Gemini rising tends to do that. I know because I am one. For a Gemini riser, life is all about learning various things all at once, making us "jack of all trades". We almost never have one thing that we focus on. To add to that, you have Aries on the 10th house. Gemini already gets bored easily, add that Aries energy and you have someone who jumps in and out of projects without really finishing them. Then you have your 10th house ruler (Mars), in Pisces, which is the sign that gets confused the most.

You could try using your Saturn's energy to ground your Mars and the rest of your chart. Make a long-term commitment and don't quit just because you're getting bored of it. Saturn in Virgo is about routines and being disciplined. If you become someone who is able to follow a routine and be more disciplined, you can balance the mutable energies in your chart. But make sure the commitments you make are things you really love doing and has a lot of creative freedom in it. You also need to be able to satisfy your Moon and Neptune in the 6th house to be able to achieve a happy and successful career.

As for your earlier question about planets in the 9th house and the NN, I don't think it plays into this as much as the 10th and 6th house. But that's just my opinion.


Thanx for the insight!

I am really struggling to get along with my Saturn. I do feel his power upon me many times, but it's just like u mentioned- easily get bored sticking to routine.

I believe that with the Saturn transit conjuct my Moon and square natal Saturn during the next year I will be receiving quite a few more lessons. The hard way obviously,since there are already many squares in the chart

Who knows, maybe it will help me find a specific goal in my life and what I am trully meant to commit to.

Thanx again

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posted March 26, 2015 11:51 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Soltze     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Well that Moon conjunct Neptune in the 6th...it's very self explanatory.
I think the previous answer is very spot on that Saturn/Mars aspect can really push you into action. Off course it's not a pleasant sensation (come on 2 tough guys opposition), and I also notice your Saturn has a trine to Chiron so I'm pretty sure you can change the tide in your favour ;-)
Plus notice how your Pluto opposes MC! Do you have any kind of family/origin problems hindering you career or stability in general? Do people at work (bosses, colleagues, customers try to control you?
For me major life problems are angle issues...I always feel drawn to investigate the angles.

I love your Water grand trine...off course you have an artistic vein :-)
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posted March 26, 2015 12:39 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for 3l3n     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Thanx Soltze
Artistic vein that is basically being restrained by these 2 tough guys opposition.grr

I do have a tendency to attract very bossy people around me. but I have my limits ofcourse,after alot of patience

Basically seperated with my family.didn't have much support in my decisions, I didn't like the atmosphere so, I started moving away from them slowly.with many other problems inbetween obviously
Could Pluto on IC be seen as a strict or bossy parent in the family?

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posted March 26, 2015 01:30 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for 3l3n     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Does Chiron in the 10th trine Saturn indicate anything for work or career? volunteer work, healing in some form,?

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posted March 26, 2015 02:12 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for midnightvenus     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Soltze:
Well that Moon conjunct Neptune in the 6th...it's very self explanatory.

Isn't the orb too wide?

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posted March 26, 2015 02:18 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for theunknown     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I am not a professional astrologer (duh!)
But here are my thoughts.

I would say that the main problem you have is your t-square between mars, saturn and moon. Your Pisces mars, ruler of MC is in 9th. It is searching for truth, philosophy and ideals. Both Pisces and 9th house are very idealistic and yet your mars is weighed down by a sense of structure, timing and nitty gritty details of saturn in Virgo. So while your mars is out there doing its things, your saturn is telling you to be more realistic. The way to balance this is through your Moon in sag. The moon knows what is right (Sag is all about the truth) and it is helpful that your moon in sag conjunct neptune while your mars in pisces is in 9th, making both your mars and sag moon to be quite philosophical and focusing on reaching a final, broad conclusion.

Saturn rules your 8th and 7th house, so your relationships and partnerships with others as well as your ability to dig deeper in the depth of things, on death, sexuality and taboos can help you find financial groundings. That venus trine pluto in 8th would also encourages you to focus on these topics.

8th house matters are clearly important for your financial stability but Uranus, the other ruler of the 8th is in 5th, squaring your venus. It does help that your 5th is in scorpio, reinforcing 8th house matters, and these matters are ways you can get yourself to have fun and to find your individuality.

At time, finding your sense of self and freedom might interfere with your relationship. Venus-uranus aspect has very abrupt quality. You also have pluto conjuncting your IC so your childhood might have left you scars of abuses or manipulations that make it harder for you to enter relationships and intimacy. Yet these matters are the ones that allow you to gain financial grounding.

Again, the key here is going back to your inner self and what nurtures you - your Sag moon. Sag moon knows the truth and allows you to overcome painful memories of childhood because Sag moon knows it needs to move on, it needs to focus on the grandiose matters of life and find philosophical truth and not get wrapped up in personal wounds.

since your moon is in 6th with neptune in it, you should explore working in something creative-related or healing others. That sag moon might be begging you to go abroad or take trips to gain perspective before coming back and resolve what is realistic (saturn) and what is idealistic (pisces mars) and how can you have your feet on the ground and your eyes on the idealistic goals.

Your sun trine jupiter and uranus so connecting to the larger collectivity, traveling and seeking higher philosophy also brings your adult ego (9th Sun) to life.

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posted March 26, 2015 04:25 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for 3l3n     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
That was very enlightening theunknown, thank you!

Yeah, that t-square has been tormenting me all my life. I am feeling it even more now unfortunately

My Sag moon has been begging me to travel from the day I was born I believe!
It's a shame that for the past 6-7 years I haven't been able to make a trip somewhere outside of the country I am living now, to broaden my horizons like I used to the good old days. It has stressed me out tremendously!
Maybe it's time for a few more Saturn lessons before I take off again?

I have been trying to get a clear idea on what exactly the 8th house topics are since my Venus is there, and it does have to do with income also I believe

It's true that I can't seem to work in a correct manner when their is a steady partner in my life. But I do need some kind of romance and flirt going on to keep me inspired to work. Damn confusing.
I feel that it's either work or my partner I should be devoted to. Can't seem to balance the two.
A very understanding partner is needed

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posted March 26, 2015 04:49 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for theunknown     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Well, lucky you! Saturn is moving to Sag so you will learn your lessons soon

One of the theme I see in your chart is Uranus and Pluto. Your Uranus is in Scorpio and your Aqua venus is in 8th house, trine pluto, square Uranus. Your pluto is also in Libra and Taurus is in 11th.
So lots of venus/pluto/uranus here!

Perhaps this means that your sense of values lie in both individual freedom, individual expression and digging deep into personal relationship. Uranus is exalted in scorpio so these energies are not incompatible.
The 8th house matters are sex, death, fears and also leaving what is in the material planes to take the plunge and jump into the depth of your being. If you are still wandering around, your Sag moon, your pisces mars, and virgo saturn arent satisfied because all three want some finite conclusions.

Your north node is in virgo, your mercury is in aries in 9th. You said you are freelancing but my guess is your aries MC with chart ruler close by probably want you to be the winner, the strongest, the most successful in your communication careers. It is asking you to step up and stop wandering around.
Pluto is opposite MC, so you need to find the truth in relationships. What is exactly still confusing your sense of self when you have to deal with intimacy (IC) and from there coming out to the world like a warrior (Aries MC).


Be that Aries you were born to be. Decide the date, the time. Sag is also about traveling of the mind. You don't have to get out of the country. Just go somewhere! devour more books!

Only you can pin down the 8th house matters of your life. But my guess is it has to do with how you struggle from the family wounds and adopt detachment as coping mechanism. And as hurtful as it can be, you need to get in touch with what exactly in your libran home life that is painful for you. What is it about being in a relationship that makes you feel trapped, manipulated, controlled?

Your uranus is in scoprio! Your venus is in aquarius. You thirst for expressing the depth of yourself but you have to stand out as an individual.
if your current relationship doesn't satisfy these qualities, you are gonna continue feeling jailed. Current pluto transit is in capricorn so you will have to deal with this matter soon, in a not so comfy way. But hopefully Saturn in Sag, sextiling your pluto will at least sustain you.

Also, I am guessing Uranus in Aries is triggering your MC needs.

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posted March 26, 2015 05:02 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Kannon McAfee     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
3l3n,

What is suggested by this chart is that you orient yourself gradually more towards smaller scale projects done by hand or with a more 'hands-on' approach in which the details are ordered and completed by you. That is from looking at N.Node in Virgo in 3rd.

Are you finding this to be true?

I give the qualifer/disclaimer that since I have not cast your chart myself, I don't know for certain that the 3rd is the correct house for N.Node. Your chart has a lot of mixed interpretation potentials with Moon in Sag being roughly equivalent to those 9th house factors and so on.

What you are describing sounds like Pisces, or like Neptune in aspect to Asc -- definitely very mutable. 5 planets in mutable signs. 4 in water.

In any case, N.Node [5 north] is parallel Mercury [6 north] which further emphasizes mental processing. Moon looks to be parallel Uranus, depending on your location of birth. That makes for a very collecting, very mental-process type of Moon.

I don't see the planetary placements (or asteroids) as a problem. S.Node is there with them (9th). The key is taking what you've learned and gathered from those tendencies and experiences (broad-minded mental outreach) and funneling it down into something that is more 'you.'

Mutable Asc sq Sun tends to strengthen decisiveness and self-identity -- except if in cuspy areas.

Taken 'as is' this chart generally indicates mental processes over performance or musical composition. That does not mean dumping music, but perhaps putting it aside for a while until you can funnel your activities into something that is more 'you.' If your chart is accurate as displayed here, you may be experiencing the transit of Uranus conjunct MC, in which case this is an awakening that won't necessarily allow you that tidy organizing of your aims and activities as discussed here. As Uranus transits in tighter opposition to your natal Pluto, you may find forces seemingly from outside your current purview enter in to stir things up. See what that does during the rest of this year until around June of next year.


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posted March 26, 2015 05:48 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Soltze     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by 3l3n:
Thanx Soltze
Artistic vein that is basically being restrained by these 2 tough guys opposition.grr

I do have a tendency to attract very bossy people around me. but I have my limits ofcourse,after alot of patience

Basically seperated with my family.didn't have much support in my decisions, I didn't like the atmosphere so, I started moving away from them slowly.with many other problems inbetween obviously
Could Pluto on IC be seen as a strict or bossy parent in the family?


I'm not sure maybe the Pluto can be a male figure, but I wouldn't personify it because it's not conjunct the Sun (dsd) or the Moon (mom).

Take your power don't let others take it from you :-)

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posted March 26, 2015 06:43 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Kibriana     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Hello Neptune and Moon in the 6th! Hello confusion!

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posted March 26, 2015 07:17 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for peony     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Hi 313n, to add to what has been said:

Pisces is one of the signs, along with Scorpio and Aquarius, that often find it challenging to find their way in the world. After all, they are ruled by outer planets, Neptune, Pluto, and Uranus. By their very nature, they are subversive to the world order because they are essential drivers of evolution and mending and healing of the soul at a collective level.

Pisces Sun and Mars, Moon conjunct Neptune, and the Aries MC indicate that you're a visionary and an idealist, oriented towards the world of imagination and the unmanifest that is unlimited and unbounded. I'm reminded of Stephen Sondheim's musical "Sunday in the Park with George," which is a theatrical rendering of an imagined life of the painter, George Seurat. Mandy Patinkin, in the role of George, stares at a blank canvas and says "so many possibilities." Out of an infinite number of possibilities, which one to choose, to work on and bring into form, which is Saturn in Virgo. Pisces Sun and Mars, Neptune in the 6H square Mars, the grand trine of Uranus in the 5H, Sun, and Jupiter are the 10% inspiration and Saturn in Virgo, and Moon in the 6H represent the 90% perspiration.

The emphasis on the 9H and Gemini rising suggest you’re a perpetual student of life. The Sun, chart ruler, Mercury, and 10H ruler Mars are all in the 9H. The subject of the thread relates closely to 6H and 10H matters. The 10H is where we move from the ivory tower of university life and the world of ideas and the big, philosophical and spiritual questions to the outer material world and professional life, where theories and ideas are tested in the real world. The 10H is the public square. It’s also where we project and express who we are in the world. You have Chiron in the 10H in Capricorn, which suggests to me that there’s a wound around 10H issues, possibly coming from the relationship with the father. There could be self-worth issues also that tie in with money issues (Saturn in the 2H). Maybe because of his own temperament and personality, he wasn’t able to model for you the hard work and drive, the persistence and practical values, and attention to detail to help you negotiate your way in life and the world (Mars opposite Saturn). Although Mars-Saturn is often a builder, and many people in construction have Mars and Saturn in major aspect, I think in mutable signs persistence and staying power is a challenge and needs effort. But, the archetypal dynamics can manifest in a number of different ways, this is just one.

In a sense, what is being discussed here is the dynamic between Saturn and Neptune. It’s interesting that the Neptune transit is opposing your Saturn. Since you have a thread about this transit, I’ll leave a link to an article that may give you insight regarding both this thread and the other.

To add to what the unknown has said about the t-square, the often-cited analogy is that it’s like a three legged stool. In order to create stability and to resolve the t-square, it’s the empty house and sign that provides the key, Gemini and the 12H. One interpretation of Gemini and the 12H is of course learning, but learning directed at the hidden processes of the mind and the unconscious. Just a thought.

Looking at the Moon-Neptune conjunction in the 6H, I’m thinking the health and healing field tied to the arts perhaps, but work that has a large enough scope to keep you interested. And, it's something unique (Uranus 5H). Do you have any interest in art or music therapy, or teaching?

Here's the link to the article.
Anne Whitaker: Contemplating the 12th House - An Optimist's Take on Self-Undoing

In this profoundly personal memoir, Anne Whitaker tells of her Neptunian experiences, an epic ‘night sea journey’ that includes the paranormal and an appreciation of the findings of quantum physics.
http://www.astro.com/astrology/aa_article150302_e.htm

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posted March 27, 2015 06:59 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Aries23Degrees     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by 3l3n:
Basically all my life I have been a freelancer. multitasking but not really chasing one specific goal for my future.

I always like to learn new things and work on them.. until I get tired again with that 1 specific object and jump to the other.

I do have many skills, but never actually focused on one enough to keep upgrading my knowledge or pursue it as a real job/career.

As I'm getting older I'm getting even more confused as to what could be that something I should be pursuing as a job or career? also my life path

Existensial crisis? could be :/

Would many planets and asteroids in the 9th house squaring 6th house and opposing my NN be part of the "problem?


Look to Saturn/Neptune on the angles or making aspects to the 10th/1st house angles.

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posted March 27, 2015 11:45 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for 3l3n     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I greatly appreciate all of the responses!

They are all very helpful and each one in their own unique way is helping me see some of the truths I have obviously buried


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