posted March 28, 2015 06:41 PM            

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Originally posted by Leorpio:
Soooo I've been dealing with a lot of stress trying too hard to control my mind and generally trying too hard in anything, and it comes down to the issue of self value. This is a big one for people with Scorpio and/or Leo influences, and I put Scorpio first since that energy seems to have the hardest time with this. So many people can't figure out how to stop this vicious enrghy vampire/self doubt cycle that continuously robs them of their freedom and I've finally come to the answer.

You see, these two signs, and indeed most other signs, but these 2 most always act as if they have something to prove, that they have to prove to others and themselves they have valuable and thus can never find peace. The way out of this is by realizing there is nothing to prove and that its so easy to get out of that cycle by simply stop trying to prove to yourself and others something. Proof and the requirement of proof is such a 3d human thing and it indicates a clear lack of trust, in whatever or whoever you're trying to get proof about/from. There is a reason they say "the burden of proof", because proof IS a burden that is completely unnecessary and one that has created more havoc and discord than it has ever solved. I hope this helps you guys, even as I still work to acclimate this truth in my life.

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That's a broad generalization. Doesn't ring true to me.

posted March 28, 2015 08:27 PM            

Anyways, ever since I've really been living out my 1st House Aquarius North Node, I feel no real need to prove myself. I like to think of it as building real confidence, as that comes from within and doesn't seek out others' approval. So, that's been very, very liberating. I would not want to go back to being so invested in what people think of me.

My South Node in Leo is also conjunct my Sun (by 9 degrees). So, I'm basically learning how to get over myself this time around. That's why I relate to the "Leos have huge egos" stereotype less and less, though I do still have lots of the other traits of the sign.

posted March 30, 2015 05:10 AM            

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Originally posted by DeepFreeze:
Wondered where you ran off to. Unless I've just not crossed your path.

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I've been working on myself a lot and getting into the more spiritual side of things really trying to overcome a lot of the stuff thats been holding me back for my entire life so not too much time spent here. Also I'm becoming more sensitive to vibrations and a lot of the times the vibrations of this site make my head feel nautious, but no where near as bad as a place like, say, Facebook or reddit. Hope you've been doing well and what not!

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Originally posted by venus2tinkerbell:
I want to be seen in the way that I see myself. But something gets lost in all the showing. The trick is to "just be", and trust. Good points.

this is my 700th comment/post...I want to keep it like this for a bit. i'll just have to edit my other posts when I want to say something- lol.

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Yeah and I've realized that it all comes down to getting out of your own way, which can be SOOOOOOO hard when your mind is constantly analyzing/trying to prove something, which come to think of it is also a very Virgo thing. Do you ever find its hard to actually even see yourself? Like you're so hyper-aware of yourself that you're actually not aware of yourself?

Here's some things said by a master that really resonate: "Power is safest in a simple form. If you can hold your power deep within yourself without the need of recognition and adulation from others, your power shall remain incorruptible. You have seen how the Dark Ones will surrender being powerful in order to look powerful. This is because, rather than being ruled by themselves, they are ruled by others. Because they need others to recognize them, they must also gather their power from others. Once you need something outside of yourself, you lose the connection to your greatest powers that are inside of YOU."

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Originally posted by Solar_Leo_Queen:
This is very deep, Leorpio. I have no Scorpio influence, but have it for my SR chart this year (2014-2015) and a couple of Leo planets in that chart, plus my natal Leo sun. I grew up always trying to prove something to someone or myself and be "perfect" (virgo influence) and have hurt people in the process. Since I have a very big ego, I always thought I have to be better than others and show evidence that I am. Now, that's not the case anymore. Needless to say, ever since I have stopped fighting back and trying to prove something, I have started to feel more peaceful. I think every sign does this to a point, but it is accentuated in more egotistical signs, especially fixed. I agree it does not do anyone any good but destroy self-esteem and life itself.

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I'm glad to hear you're finally losing your ego and finding peace. Everyone deserves that and no one deserves to be drug down by either big or self-doubting egos so I'm truly glad you're finding peace. Come to think of it, I really think a lot of it comes down to the Leo/Virgo influence since it seems we all struggle with that NEED to be perfect that our egos like to feed us.

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Originally posted by Soltze:
Pluto is quite influent in my chart and I don't feel like I have to prove myself. Actually normally I tend to see stupidity around me, so I actually look good by comparison (yes, I know that was mean sorryyy)
What happens is that plutonians are emotional, obsessed with being perfect and...ta-da guilt. There are days it feels like even the weather is my fault :-D

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Yeah Pluto isn't a "fun" planet by any means lol Its also that Scorpio/Pluto gives a really big defensive complex where we always think someone is automatically thinking bad on us or talking crap or something retarded like that and it inevitably either makes us secretly angry at the person or insecure and closed off emotionally >_> I would say try to have more compassion on yourself and others to really get over the whole guilt thing I 've never been guilty at the time of doing something usually being really closed off from my emotions then a huge wave of guilt will hit me later and the best remedy for that is compassion

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Originally posted by the89freespirit:
Leo Sun/Scorpio Moon here! (I'm guessing you are too, Leorpio?)

Anyways, ever since I've really been living out my 1st House Aquarius North Node, I feel no real need to prove myself. I like to think of it as building real confidence, as that comes from within and doesn't seek out others' approval. So, that's been very, very liberating. I would not want to go back to being so invested in what people think of me.

My South Node in Leo is also conjunct my Sun (by 9 degrees). So, I'm basically learning how to get over myself this time around. That's why I relate to the "Leos have huge egos" stereotype less and less, though I do still have lots of the other traits of the sign.

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Yes I am also the same combo!! It seems those of us who have been chosen to bear this combo are meant to overcome the constant inner conflict that arises in us and creates this seething ball of anger in our subconscious in order to be avatars for the power of love and especially self-love The reason Atlantis fell is because those who came to power on the largest of the islands lost sight of love and chose power instead.

posted March 30, 2015 12:55 PM            

I really love your quote about power remaining internal and, therefore, incorruptible. I love it so much, I might just steal it!

I think it actually sums up how I've developed confidence: by knowing that there is no real power struggle. At least, not externally. I have a power that NO ONE can take away from me, no matter what they say or do. So, I think that's transformed that old Scorpio Moon fear and paranoia about being powerless and potentially being betrayed and all of that.

I think that's also taken away the need to prove anything to anyone. I'm already very powerful, so I don't need to bend over backwards in the world to achieve power. I've already achieved power. So, I like to think of it as using my Leo/Scorpio power, on the inside, to achieve success, instead of seeing achieving success as a means to become powerful. Because if that's taken away from you, which it definitely can be, then what do you have?

posted April 01, 2015 06:34 PM            

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Originally posted by the89freespirit:
Leorpio,

I really love your quote about power remaining internal and, therefore, incorruptible. I love it so much, I might just steal it!

I think it actually sums up how I've developed confidence: by knowing that there is no real power struggle. At least, not externally. I have a power that NO ONE can take away from me, no matter what they say or do. So, I think that's transformed that old Scorpio Moon fear and paranoia about being powerless and potentially being betrayed and all of that.

I think that's also taken away the need to prove anything to anyone. I'm already very powerful, so I don't need to bend over backwards in the world to achieve power. I've already achieved power. So, I like to think of it as using my Leo/Scorpio power, on the inside, to achieve success, instead of seeing achieving success as a means to become powerful. Because if that's taken away from you, which it definitely can be, then what do you have?

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posted April 01, 2015 10:27 PM            

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Originally posted by Leorpio:
Always remember though that the source of your power is love, otherwise you're dealing with nothing but false power that is temporary and not lasting. God is the source of all power and God is love so thus the source of power that we can use is love, and indeed there is nothing more powerful than love, save for love, light, and sound combined.

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That's beautiful and very true. Thanks!

posted April 02, 2015 09:01 AM            

These two do not naturally exist together in harmony. There has to be a battle of some sort and Leo is the conquerer because the Sun is constant and can't be ignored.

But if the Sun would gently melt the ice in order to allow the softness of emotion to flow toward it then the closer they become, the more fascinating and pleasurable the steaminess becomes.

Leo must recognize Scorpio for this to work, allowing Scorpio to shine. Otherwise Sun melts the ice, destroying it. Scorpio wants the steam, and is willing to sacrifice part of its essence to merge with the Sun in order for the alchemy to take place. Scorpio, the only animal with an innate ability to kill itself. When Scorpio melts it always follows the path of least resistance, so it is Leo's job to lessen the resistance.

posted April 03, 2015 02:52 AM            

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Originally posted by LexusVirgo:
As a Leo stellium person. I love Scorpio / Leo ppl they are soo intense I love to be close to them it's like they charge my Pisces moon battery.

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Nicely said.