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polkadotstars
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posted March 31, 2015 06:30 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for polkadotstars     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I don't feel like I resonate well with my ascendant. I'm a Leo Rising but I don't like being in the center of attention and I'm definitely not intimidating. I think it might be because I have a lot of water in my chart.

Could someone please look at it and see why I don't fit well with my rising. The only way I think I am similar to a Leo is that I'm creative (yet I have a stellium in Pisces and they are creative) and I like to look nice image wise. I can be loud at times but more often than not I'm more reserved.

I would love to be more like a Leo, I've always wanted to be an extrovert!

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posted March 31, 2015 07:06 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for NYCdodger     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Rising signs are not about what you feel, but it represents the conditions of your life and what will influence you on your path. Houses are very complex as well as the 4 main points (asc/dc/mc/IC). Every sign displays its qualities in certain areas of our 12 houses whether we feel them or not

Ascendant is the house of self, the doorway to your life and where it leads. Its like a guardian angel showing you what will influence your soul's connection to the world

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posted March 31, 2015 10:31 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Solar_Leo_Queen     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I agree with NYCDodger.

But when it comes to the basics, the ascendant is your immediate personality--what others see when they first come in contact with you. Any planets in the 1st house, especially conjunct the Asc, can influence it. If you don't have planets in the 1st house, you can look to your chart ruler for clues as to how your ascendant plays out.

In your case, since Leo is ruled by the Sun, this would be your chart ruler. The reason why you don't feel like a Leo rising at all must be because your Sun is in Pisces and is in the 8th house. Pisces is a reserved sign and does not care much for attention. The 8th house is about mysteries, secrets, hidden things, intimate sex, darkest fears, and shared possessions. It is also a water house. When the Sun is in a water house, it can be kind of difficult for it to express itself, and thus it stays hidden and "watered down". The Sun cannot burn as bright as it should in these houses. But that does not mean you are bound to this for life. Remember, there is always free will. You just have to figure out how to channel your Sun's energy outwardly. In this case, facing your darkest fears, being more open and trusting with people, and sharing your talents with the world.

Also, your Sun squares Saturn. Saturn represents restriction, criticism, discipline, coldness, and responsibilities. When the Sun is in hard aspect with Saturn, this could mean you criticize yourself too much, making you insecure and feeling that you're not "good enough". This restricts self-expression, which the Sun is all about. This could also make you appear "cold" and untrusting to people, which can drive them away instead of attract them to you.

The square to Chiron can indicate some internal wounds regarding yourself that you have not healed yet.

Hope this helps.

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posted March 31, 2015 10:51 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for PlutoSurvivor     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote

You are Leo rising, more than you think, but you just have not discovered it yet. Look at the placement of Pisces Sun Moon Mercury (all in the top half of your chart with your other personal planets, definitely extrovert) square to Saturn. Saturn, the planet with the rings, places great restrictions, or limits on you times 3. Saturn has a difficult place in 4th House. I'm guessing you have had strong parental influence, to be who they expected you to be, and so you may be very conscious of how you present yourself to the world. So easy for Pisces to flow along with others' expectations.

Leo is not about hogging attention and capturing the spotlight, etc. It's true essence is in its ability to shine constantly (fixed fire is the Sun, eternal warmth and light) in order to encourage and help others shine. To really have a positive effect on others. I'm sure on first meeting others would experience your warmth and your glow, and feel uplifted in your presence.

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posted March 31, 2015 10:57 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ami Anne     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Maybe, your time is off. I think people should resonate with their charts. I use the House of Chiron to try to find the right asc. You should FEEL the pain in the House of Chiron imo and ime

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posted March 31, 2015 10:59 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ami Anne     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Your Chiron is in the 11th, which would be Hopes and Dreams and groups. If these are not areas of pain, I think your time of birth is off.

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posted March 31, 2015 11:09 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for polkadotstars     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I'm not sure what Chiron and hopes and dreams are? And how to know if I feel the pain associated with it?

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posted March 31, 2015 11:16 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ami Anne     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by polkadotstars:
I'm not sure what Chiron and hopes and dreams are? And how to know if I feel the pain associated with it?

Do you feel great pain about your hopes and dreams? Like a great angst when it comes to them?

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posted March 31, 2015 11:20 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for polkadotstars     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I can't say that I do..

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posted March 31, 2015 11:24 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ami Anne     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by polkadotstars:
I can't say that I do..

Look at the houses before and after. If you have great pain there, then your time of birth is off imo

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posted April 01, 2015 04:27 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Comatoes     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
When Leo Planets/points is anywhere in the chart you are suppose to show your skills, it's not about holding back to appease people and to appear modest. Leo is suppose to go out and make stuff happen. I see it as the Universe giving you a Leo Passport, it is giving you permission to access all the qualities of Leo and to overcome all the hesitation you may have in your chart. Some people think bad of Leo's, but they fail to realize that this is Leo acting in a authentic way. Leo's can take this to the extreme, but most Leo's learn to obtain a good balance.

Having Leo Rising may be just what you need to settle into your life path, all charts give you all the tools you need to fulfill your destiny, somehow self-expression is one of your goals. Pisces and Leo may seem completely different but both these signs are trying to transcend their creativity to a higher octave. Leo is a sign of spirit, it's about manifesting your spirit and what you truly want to show the World, Leo would be the fastest way to do that as no other sign has the ability to do this efficiently like Leo has in its arsenal.

Leo rules the heart and willpower, the only sign to have the strength to symbolize the Sun. You also have Uranus and Neptune in the 5th, you are suppose to shake things up and be very unique. Neptune is the ruler of your Sun, Neptune is in the 5th house which is Leo's natural house placement, so this is another clue that Leo energy is part of your future life path.

There is a lot to be happy for when you're a Leo Rising, and it can be super beneficial to watery charts, more like a gift you grow into.

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posted April 01, 2015 04:31 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Aries23Degrees     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Do you have planets in the 1st? Or those that aspect the Asc? Maybe Saturn/Neptune/Pluto?

Are you the type to talk about your feelings a lot? Or do you find it easy to convey/get in touch with your feelings?

Often times the Asc in fire people tend to disguize/deny their vulnerabilities. They don't like to talk about how they feel or reveal that part of their nature that is more vulnerable.

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LexusVirgo
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posted April 01, 2015 04:40 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for LexusVirgo     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I have leo rising too I am quite shy. Johnny Depp has leo rising too and if you look at his early interviews he was shy. But are you generous and nice and hate injustices?

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posted April 01, 2015 07:07 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for polkadotstars     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by PlutoSurvivor:

You are Leo rising, more than you think, but you just have not discovered it yet. Look at the placement of Pisces Sun Moon Mercury (all in the top half of your chart with your other personal planets, definitely extrovert) square to Saturn. Saturn, the planet with the rings, places great restrictions, or limits on you times 3. Saturn has a difficult place in 4th House. I'm guessing you have had strong parental influence, to be who they expected you to be, and so you may be very conscious of how you present yourself to the world. So easy for Pisces to flow along with others' expectations.

Leo is not about hogging attention and capturing the spotlight, etc. It's true essence is in its ability to shine constantly (fixed fire is the Sun, eternal warmth and light) in order to encourage and help others shine. To really have a positive effect on others. I'm sure on first meeting others would experience your warmth and your glow, and feel uplifted in your presence.


I can definitely relate to all of this! I think I'm a very cheery person. Everyone says I smile a lot. So I am a very warm person. I laugh a lot too as well. I'm a very positive person overall. I guess that is the Leo shining through?

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posted April 01, 2015 07:10 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for erickaf     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Polkadot:
ASC isn't something you resonate with, it is not a thing you feel its, its not like a moon or sun sign which you resonate and act like...look at the asc as a life path...you have 1st, 2nd, 3rd house etc and each represents a theme...the asc is often misunderstood...

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posted April 01, 2015 07:12 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for polkadotstars     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Comatoes:

Leo rules the heart and willpower, the only sign to have the strength to symbolize the Sun. You also have Uranus and Neptune in the 5th, you are suppose to shake things up and be very unique. Neptune is the ruler of your Sun, Neptune is in the 5th house which is Leo's natural house placement, so this is another clue that Leo energy is part of your future life path.

There is a lot to be happy for when you're a Leo Rising, and it can be super beneficial to watery charts, more like a gift you grow into.


I am definitely unique. I'm an artist and I have the most random thoughts in my head almost every hour. I used to date a guy who was very black and white, he had zero creativity. He always seemed enamoured by my creative side because he lacked it so. It sounds like I definitely have a lot of Neptune in my chart.

This is so awesome, thanks so much for your post!

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posted April 02, 2015 08:23 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for PlutoSurvivor     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by polkadotstars:
I can definitely relate to all of this! I think I'm a very cheery person. Everyone says I smile a lot. So I am a very warm person. I laugh a lot too as well. I'm a very positive person overall. I guess that is the Leo shining through?

Yes, this is Leo shining through. I think you really do connect with your rising sign.
And I think you were initially confusing your Leo influence with your Aries influence, both in fire signs

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posted April 02, 2015 08:33 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for astra7     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Solar_Leo_Queen:
But when it comes to the basics, the ascendant is your immediate personality--what others see when they first come in contact with you.

How you feel and what you see is two different things though. For example, I am shy therefore I tend to be on my own and aloof which people interpret as 'I am so up there, untouchable' which isn't true at all! lol


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