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Stawr
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posted June 23, 2015 08:29 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Stawr     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Aries23Degrees:
Oh OK. I see. Understood.

I think the wanting to experiment with drugs could be Neptune squaring your Asc. It's getting closer.Did you notice that?

Let me know how Saturn does when it moves to oppose your Asc.


Oh my goodness, yes that would make sense! Now that you mention it, I think I did read an astrology interpretation about drugs and Neptune squares. Ugh in my 10th house too. I read that Neptune can lead to uncertainty in career for Gemini people right now.

I had a paid internship fall through before Neptune went rx and am now doing it unpaid.

I will have an interview for a position I really want and hope I get it!

I read that after this transit is when everything falls into place though, so we shall see!
I've read horoscopes that have warned me about the self destructive side of Neptune going rx.

I will certainly let you know how Saturn oppose ASC goes!

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posted June 24, 2015 06:27 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for JeSuisV     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Hey all I'm a 26 Degree Aries ASC, hope that falls into the club somewhat

To start off with what I've got going in the chart that I feel is relevant:
Black Moon 12 Capp, 10th (conjunct MC by a few minutes)
Uranus 13 Capp 10th
Neptune 16 Capp 10th
And soon-to-be-aspected NN 19 Capp
So pretty much everything is happening on the inside, I guess..
Concerned about tNeptune just entering my 12th, Uranus that has been transiting my 12th since God knows when, for the moment Sqaring my NN

Well about them transits... it's been a whirlwind so far, but not in the best of ways. Feelings of helplessness and of not being good enough and insecure about my image in the world have made me retreat into simpler things somehow, doing things I didn't have problems with before, I do now, for example keeping my motivation to do the right thing (i.e.what society expects you to do, deadlines, stuff done in a hurry) just isn't working for me right now. I also seem to have problems in my approach towards authority, I just avoid it, having it and submitting to it.
Also, very little makes sense to me right now...as in, I find little reasons for doing just about anything. I'm waiting for the liberating part to show, but with that Neptune in Pisces in my 12th, I really don't know what to expect, more confusion or a deep calming sense of one-ness, or something.

Also, with Uranus transiting my 12th and it still has some 6 degrees to go, I haven't been sleeping fine since some years now, with very frequent nightmares. Also, I sense of frustration because of always losing personal insights because of seemingly scattered thoughts. All that represents my internal processes (which I value deeply, IC 4th Cancer with Venus, SN and Chiron) are always bothered by some unexpected event.
An interesting thing I've noticed is that I tended to tell more of what I was feeling to the world without fearing judgement. I'm quite secretive and private otherwise. That telling of stuff did not quite work out for me since I was left feeling empty afterwards.

Also felt quite disconnected from loved ones, and tend to feel so when I'm in this gloomy fatalistic state of mind. Some 2 depressions have come and gone.

Have been studying fanatically the Black Moon and South Node as of recently, and pursued astro more.

Regarding the question of "how did you prepare", well, unless you're an excellent astrologer and understand your chart so completely you'll know exactly how you'll feel because of such transits, you can't really do much because trust me, you don't even know your reactions when they happen.

P.S. also a lot of editing of posts.

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posted June 25, 2015 01:15 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Aries23Degrees     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Hugs and Welcome!!!!

I take it that your MC is in 12 Degree of Cap?

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posted June 26, 2015 11:29 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Queen Salome     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Hm.......
I'm 20° Libra Sun.
Last 4,5 months were terrible for me.
And it seems that it is not going to stop!!!
While in foreign country, I was feeling so bad that I was forced to visit psychologist.
Now I'm home, but still feel bad.
It seems to me that everything was much easier last year.
I know that all this isn't only because of Uranus&Pluto, but also 12th house, who is emphasized in my Solar Return Chart and was "invaded" in February and March. I truly wish I haven't done anything last 5 months

I felt/feel shaken and unsecure, my view of world has changed, I don't trust to people/in things I used to trust, I have no more interest in things I used to love, I'm no longer happy because of things that used to made me feel happy.
All in all, I feel kinda ....

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CY0Qjx5K53o

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posted June 26, 2015 11:57 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for theunknown     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
@Faith: it's funny I just finished reading Rilke too haha.

I got my Cardinal start in 2010 when transit north node conjunction my north node exact, Pluto about 4 degrees away... I moved out of home. Then the following year, Pluto moved right on to my nodes, Saturn in libra squares my nodes and opposite my moon. Uranus stsrted entering Aries... Needless to say I worked and worked and worked and faced many challenges.

2 years ago, Uranus is on my moon, Pluto is 2degrees from my modes, Saturn enter Scorpio and transit north node was on my Dsc.... I started moving again. I also could start feeling Scorpio saturn right away.
Since my life has been very chaotic. Transit Saturn hit my Dsc and Pluto while Pluto hovered over my nodes and Neptune and Venus. The coming Pluto retrograde will be 3 degrees from my nodes before it finally goes direct.... I have redefined my goals. I have s fixed stellium in Aqua so I was going through a harsh fixed transit and harsh Cardinal transit. I cried a lot as sometimes I couldn't take any more. Uranus over moon yanks what nurtures you. Pluto intensifies that pain while Saturn told me to be humbled, more disciplined. It was rough ....

Pluto is gonna keep hovering over my Venus for a while while Uranus is squaring my Mars. Don't know what to tell ya....

Thankfully I'll have my Jupiter return next year

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posted June 27, 2015 03:26 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Aries23Degrees     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Queen Salome:
[B]Hm.......
I'm 20° Libra Sun.
Last 4,5 months were terrible for me.
And it seems that it is not going to stop!!!
While in foreign country, I was feeling so bad that I was forced to visit psychologist.
Now I'm home, but still feel bad.
It seems to me that everything was much easier last year.
I know that all this isn't only because of Uranus&Pluto, but also 12th house, who is emphasized in my Solar Return Chart and was "invaded" in February and March. I truly wish I haven't done anything last 5 months

I felt/feel shaken and unsecure, my view of world has changed, I don't trust to people/in things I used to trust, I have no more interest in things I used to love, I'm no longer happy because of things that used to made me feel happy.


Hi there . I have Mars in 18 Deg of Libra.

Usually Uranus opposing Sun is a time of feeling extremely restless(Uranus).

The Sun represents a model of whom we are gravitating towards being/realizing.

Challenging aspects to the Sun often suggest that the prototype that we are projecting ourselves on(Sun) is constantly being re-modelled,re-designed and re-fitted.

Tra Uranus opposing Sun suggests that your life goals /path (Sun)right now becomes questioned(square) by you.

Uranus aspects can evoke feelings that your life is mundane and boring and perhaps your self-image(Sun) is too "safe" and "boring"!!

At first it starts off as depression; what can I do to revolutionize myself? What can I change about my life so that I feel a lot better about where its headed?

During this time, it is not wise to commit yourself to anything that will require steady concentration or consistency.

In fact,this initial introspection will have you do away with any commitments or demands by others that will thwart the process of searching for answers in how to change your life from what it is,to what you believe it should be.

If your Sun is in the 7th house for instance,you may feel that your relationships are hum-drum and boring. So you may try to change them. Or even breakaway from them altogether

Other people may feel that their partners are too demanding(especially if Saturn is conjunct) and will look for more freedom.

In the opposite of-course, it could happen that your partners think you the one who is too demanding and perhaps want to break-way from you etc.

If in the 8th house,it may suggest that since the ego is invested in all things investigative. You may discover something profound about yourself right now that influences the change of your external ego.

It may happen through some crises or external event.But whatever it is, it'll serve to redefine what you believe about yourself and radically shift and separate the "old" you and the "new" you(this change may even be overnight).

Is transiting Saturn hitting any of your natal planets? Pluto is too far from the Sun to be the culprit. What is your Asc?

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posted June 27, 2015 05:20 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Queen Salome     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Thank you for your response, Aries.
Well, my ASC is at 29° Aries, my Sun is in 6th house. Transit Pluto conjunct my MC and Neptune (but for long time already).
Transit Saturn curently sextile natal Saturn.
I went abroad app. 5 months ago and it was very stresfull- I got in fight with "new friends", survived love disaster with exotic foreigner (who was exactly the type of guy I always dreamed of), and was feeling very uncomfortably at the place I was staying. Because of what happened, I changed my view of world, give up my plans for future and I feel much more unsecure and pessimistic than before I went there (I'm NOT saying that I used to be optimistic before, I wasn't). Now I also realised that I had growing crisis too, because of unpleasant experience abroad, I don't want to live without my parents anymore (although I'm not really happy at home neither), because it is much tougher that I thought and I had realised I have more problems that I thought I have (particulary relatiohships with other people, I have huge problems with that). I always felt that I have always lived in illusion, and my view of world and other people is now much more pessimistic=real. I'm 23 years old and live with my parents, but that is normal in my country because our culture is traditional and because there are no jobs for people, particularly young ones. I always planned my live abroad and recently I wanted to leave parental house ASAP, but now I don't have will for that. I used to believe to I want to find a good job, start family with man I can trust and do charity in my free time but now I feel that life is not worth living, that people are awful disgusting beings and don't deserve help, that I will never trust anyone and see things I believe in as meaningless (God, Karma). I mean, I believe that there is Karma, but she isn't righteous. There might be God, but He is evil.

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posted June 28, 2015 12:06 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Aries23Degrees     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
That Sun in the 6th can't be too easy for ya. How is the relationship with Dad?

Planets in the 6th often suggest(at worst) that we often find ourselves in the middle of conflict,generate conflict or have to resolve minute issues that made the conflict possible.

Now with Sun there, a lot of the conflict can be with authority figures(especially males). Those whom define for us whom we are gravitating to become(Sun).

As I said, the Sun is whom we are trying to become. And with the Sun in 6th, we are often "at war"(6th)with ourselves(Sun). And this projected outside could be like feeling that the father/God(Sun)is our enemy(6th).

This planet position is often a strong indicator of issues with the father, the father figure and even "God head" itself(the ultimate "authority"-which is the Sun).

But you must also take in mind that this conflict is an external projection of this inner chasm.

Perhaps it is born from our own innate belief that whom we are struggling to become(Sun) is just not possible(6th).

Or it is filled with all sorts of complications and obstacles. And then we become cynical and resentful- which can often translate to health issues(Sun in 6th)

Sun in 6th house individuals are often concerned with the minutia and sensitive to that(much like Virgo Sun).

So they can be easily discouraged and are often in need of a lot more self-encouragement and self-belief that they will overcome minor setbacks.

The 6th house is famed as the house of illness / disease. But with the Sun there, this also suggests that once you master yourself, you can master the troubles of this house and become an expert at them

Now Uranus opposing Sun in 6th may bring some upsets here. Watch your health(Sun in 6th often highlights health issues)and watch specifically the relationship that you have with Dad(Sun).

Some may even abandon religious sanctions around this time(as a "rebellion"- Uranus against God-Sun). Opting for more freedom.

All in all, you may get very touchy with anyone getting in your way right now. Specifically male authorities/father figures etc.

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posted July 05, 2015 04:42 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Queen Salome     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I don't have great relationship with dad.
I feel disapointed with life.
I feel that I'm ......growing.
And I don't like that feeling.
I really feel that I'm from other planet (interesting, I have Sirius conjunct SN).
More I know about this world, more disgusted I am.

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posted August 07, 2015 02:52 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Aries23Degrees     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Uranus is now retrograde and according to what I have read,the retrograde hit of a slow loving planet(like Uranus) packs quite a punch.

It will be re-touching my Moon/Mars/Mercury T-square. And I am sincerely nervous.

Round 2

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posted August 20, 2015 08:06 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for JeSuisV     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Aries23Degrees:
Hugs and Welcome!!!!

I take it that your MC is in 12 Degree of Cap?


Yup, 12deg39 to be precise, and my lilith is 12deg37, so it's a real tight one.

Sorry for the late answer, it's a bit hard to keep track of my posts since I haven't found a system of the sort yet here

So how's everyone doing? I've see a lot of sufferint from the heavy planet transits, I'm in the same pickle but it's hard to know what to do without guidance, and at least that's what I'm searching for here.

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posted August 20, 2015 09:20 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for curiouspisces89     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
This year my Pluto is very close to my descendant constantly conj my Capricorn moon.... and I must say it has been transforming me and my relationships and it hasn't been easy, but its getting better.

At the beginning of the year, January I have broke up my long term relationship. We even lived together but it wasnt healthy at all. So one day we just woke up and decided that its over. It was very difficult because it came out of nowhere but lets just say I survived. lol

Then while I was getting back on track I have met someone new. Who was his 5th house in Scorpio with Saturn, Venus and Pluto. Crazy!

My view on relationships have completely changed but also I have changed enormously. I learned a lot about myself and grew as a person, so as hard as some of these transits are...Pluto I love you <3

I am hoping I now know how to deal with Pluto so it will be easier but we will see lol

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posted August 20, 2015 01:01 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for lalalinda     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
N. Sun 19*41" Aries.

In June when Uranus was sitting on my Sun, my daughter was hit by a drunk driver.

Talk about scared, she is fine now but the accident broke her hip.

I know better than to resist Uranus, the best I can do is go with the flow.

As far as Pluto goes, I feel like I'm walking on egg shells.

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posted October 05, 2015 03:39 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Aries23Degrees     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
The transit of retrograde Uranus to my Asc and Mars point,has had some interesting outcomes so far

*In relationship to my Asc,I have felt the push to initiate relationships or call people etc. And I have never bothered to do that before.

Uranus is the ruler of the natal 11th house. So I guess that its transit to my 1st house would make 11th house principles important?

*I am particularly drawn to the unconventional, spirited or "inspired". Anyone who seems "normal" need not apply.

This aspect is quite exciting(I must admit). I just love the circle of friends that it is helping in expanding.

*The opposition to the ruler of my Asc(Mars),has had me feeling very restless.

I have begun to act really strange and odd: Feeling extremely touchy and defensive -particularly at work.

This aspect is quite volatile and argumentative and it is also responsible for the sporadic spending of money whenever and wherever I like.

I don't particularly like the word "no" right now. And sticking to a budget is tough

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posted October 05, 2015 03:47 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Aries23Degrees     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by lalalinda:
N. Sun 19*41" Aries.

In June when Uranus was sitting on my Sun, my daughter was hit by a drunk driver.

Talk about scared, she is fine now but the accident broke her hip.

I know better than to resist Uranus, the best I can do is go with the flow.

As far as Pluto goes, I feel like I'm walking on egg shells.


And how is your daughter now?

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posted October 05, 2015 04:02 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for theunknown     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Cardinal grand cross today! Cheerios everyone!!! (*sarcasm)

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posted October 05, 2015 09:33 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Faith     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote

I feel like crap, honestly.

Yeah, cheers.

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posted October 05, 2015 09:51 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for theunknown     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Faith:

I feel like crap, honestly.

Yeah, cheers.


You know cappy humor

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posted October 16, 2016 12:37 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Aries23Degrees     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
The retrograde Uranus is busy doing it dance... u all hanging in there?

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posted October 16, 2016 12:57 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Empty Spaces     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
In 3 years I had

URANUS SQUARE MARS Dont know the effects exacly but when was exact I had a breakdown.Outbursts and stuff I guess.

*URANUS SQUARE SUN
*PLUTO CONJUNCT SUN (in december will be exact)
I was depressed.Dark night of the soul type of thing.Now I raised from the ashes and as a new person!! Im back baby!!!!

Neptune conjuncts venus (MADNESS lol Illusions)

Saturn square venus (No bad,I was obsessed with the idea of having a baby.Libra rules my 5H)

Now Im about to have saturn conjunct DSC/NN opposites moon and Pluto opposite mars
#IMTIRED

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posted October 16, 2016 01:13 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Aries23Degrees     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I was also struggling to understand the effects of Uranus. As it formed aspects with my cardinal T-square and I couldn't tell what it was doing to each planet.

But with Mars opposition, outbursts were frequent and seemed to come "out of nowhere".

I felt irritable and defensive about having to do "last minute things" etc.

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Originally posted by Aries23Degrees:
1.Those of you who have gone through the transit of these two planets to your personal.What changed?


Everything.
Uranus has been opposing my Sun at 0° for a while now, so you can imagine. Still a little raw, so I'm sorry I don't feel upto describing all that changed. But suffice it to say that no part of life was left untouched. Not the Pluto kind of upheaval - which is more like a volcano or earthquake - originating deep within and changing everything on its way out. But more like a hurricane or tornado - an outside force that wrecks your best laid plans right down to the most mundane details of life. BUT -- it's all for the best, I say. We all need some shakin' up every now n then.
The extra-fun Pluto square to my Sun is coming up next!

2.Those who are undergoing them(like me). How are you coping?
Well, now Uranus is a couple degrees away I think, so no longer directly opposing. I still feel the effects. But the most major disruptions are over, I hope (fingers crossed). How I coped: at the beginning of the year - badly, very badly. Now - the dust has settled, and whatever else is happening, I'm just going with the flow. The key is to *not* stress about things that are not in your control. But that's easier said than done, right? However, I keep telling myself that, and little by little - that lesson is sinking in.


3.Those who are anticipating them. What "preparations"(if any) are you psychologically making for when they hit?

The upcoming Pluto square, seems like a necessary "big push" in the direction of my NN, I think. I'm expecting it to be a dynamic that moulds me into something a little closer to my NN self. At least that's how I'm seeing it. Especially since my NN is in Cap, and I'm an 8H Sun. Doubly significant. I'm bracing myself to take it on the chin, and see where it takes me.

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Originally posted by SaturnFan:

The only advice I can give out of my own experience is to never ignore how you feel about something, because these powerful transits highlight issues which you've been keeping under the surface until now. The only reason I ended up being depressed twice, was because I ignored the smaller signs before that and thought I was overreacting, or that it was just a phase. But the Universe/ Pluto/ Uranus/ life or whatever you call it, just kept hammering the same point until I finally got it - so my advice is to get the message sooner rather than later I sound like a Disney princess in saying this, but anyone going through such transits should listen to their heart - that's the key to surviving them, as the whole point is to align you with your soul's mission.
It's all for the best, in the end.

This is effing true.
Double thumbs-up for you.

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posted October 17, 2016 06:47 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Aries23Degrees     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Elysia:
The upcoming Pluto square, seems like a necessary "big push" in the direction of my NN, I think. I'm expecting it to be a dynamic that moulds me into something a little closer to my NN self. At least that's how I'm seeing it. Especially since my NN is in Cap, and I'm an 8H Sun. Doubly significant. I'm bracing myself to take it on the chin, and see where it takes me.

Yes Pluto is quite the punch. I can't recall my Sun-Pluto conjunct being as intense as this current Mercury-Pluto conjunct

It could be that I am more "conscious of this one than I was aware of the initial one? Hmm....

I wanted to add that the sqaure may not be a very comfortable journey for you. The inherent nature of it is "resistance" and since it will be on your Sun,it will trample on things you strongly identify with.

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Originally posted by Aries23Degrees:
Yes Pluto is quite the punch. I can't recall my Sun-Pluto conjunct being as intense as this current Mercury-Pluto conjunct

It could be that I am more "conscious of this one than I was aware of the initial one? Hmm....


Yeah, could be. Solar energy is hard to get a handle of and "direct". It directs us. Also, maybe the conjunction was not a dynamic enough aspect to be felt? Do you have something similar natally? Unless it's unsettling, it's probably not felt as much.

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Originally posted by Aries23Degrees:
I wanted to add that the sqaure may not be a very comfortable journey for you. The inherent nature of it is "resistance" and since it will be on your Sun,it will trample on things you strongly identify with.


Shhh.. don't say that. I'm just trying to stay positive, man. I've only just come out of the worst possible time. Thinking about how it's going to get even more choppy is no help.
Yeah, the "resistance" makes things worse, which is why I'm going to "go with the flow", as much as I can.

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