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next to neptune
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posted April 09, 2015 02:19 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for next to neptune     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I ask this because of my work, where I got to meet a lot of people and always knowing their birthday. Most of these people got some really hardcore challenges in their life, you can tell.

And actually I already start to see some patterns I'm afraid, that some people born on the same day and year, seem to have more challenges than most (though the problems they have differ of course) but it almost seems like they are bound to have a somewhat difficult life (whether it be their childhood or later on).

Did you notice this too with people you know?

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Kannon McAfee
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posted April 09, 2015 02:40 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Kannon McAfee     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
To say that some charts may be "almost impossibly difficult" is to express a human attitude about the chart, not a reality of it. The chart is just a default starting place. The question is how a person adapts and learns -- which is what we are all doing.

Some people will have more trouble, more trials of learning by difficult circumstances than others. This may be indicated by a couple things: (a) their chart; (b) their karma. Just as no karma is impossibly difficult, no chart is either.

We each signed up for life on earth, whether unwitting to what could take place or with full awareness. It is important to understand that our astrological influences do not happen 'to' us, but rather that they blend with us at birth as a default and happen 'from' us thereafter.

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posted April 09, 2015 08:50 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for next to neptune     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Kannon McAfee:
To say that some charts may be "almost impossibly difficult" is to express a human attitude about the chart, not a reality of it. The chart is just a default starting place. The question is how a person adapts and learns -- which is what we are all doing.

Some people will have more trouble, more trials of learning by difficult circumstances than others. This may be indicated by a couple things: (a) their chart; (b) their karma. Just as no karma is impossibly difficult, no chart is either.

We each signed up for life on earth, whether unwitting to what could take place or with full awareness. It is important to understand that our astrological influences do not happen 'to' us, but rather that they blend with us at birth as a default and happen 'from' us thereafter.


But maybe some people just have something in their chart that suggest that in THIS world as it is right now, they have an exceptionally hard time dealing with it... it is not their own fault, but it's the society around them, their environment and surroundings that makes it more difficult = almost impossible to have a life without too many struggles...

I know it might just be a weird thought and of course everyone should be able to move on from their natal charts and learn how to adapt, but it might just be a little more difficult to some people than others? :S

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posted April 09, 2015 10:04 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ami Anne     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by next to neptune:
I ask this because of my work, where I got to meet a lot of people and always knowing their birthday. Most of these people got some really hardcore challenges in their life, you can tell.

And actually I already start to see some patterns I'm afraid, that some people born on the same day and year, seem to have more challenges than most (though the problems they have differ of course) but it almost seems like they are bound to have a somewhat difficult life (whether it be their childhood or later on).

Did you notice this too with people you know?


Yes, I think so.

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Koho
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posted April 09, 2015 10:15 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Koho     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
This is an important acknowledgement for someone like me. Astrology taught me not to judge so harshly because I can see people's abstract struggles by way of their natal chart. Gives me more patience. I've never felt empathy was my greatest trait, possibly the Cappy Moon conjunct Saturn, so to have a natal chart helping me understand other people is wonderful.

But anyway, I noticed the difference between my chart and my cousins chart. My life has had more obvious difficulties and I've overcome a lot of them. But my chart is rather simple. My issues are concentrated on one personal planet, and perhaps my Moon detriment but I like my Moon. Many ways for me to improve myself but I made great progress in the beginning just because it was a one stop shop of issues. I'm not holding myself back so I can work through the reality I was dealt.

My cousin has a life of not perfect circumstances, but better than mine. He's having much more trouble in life. He's seen his natal chart before compared to mine and he said he feels the way his chart looks which is basically a whole bunch of red lines all over the place. The conflicts he has going on inside is holding him back despite having decent life circumstances.

I don't judge him for it. His fight is tough but invisible. More extreme examples are some of my peers who grew up wealthy and still can't get it together.

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Randall
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posted April 11, 2015 11:06 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Randall     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Kannon McAfee:
To say that some charts may be "almost impossibly difficult" is to express a human attitude about the chart, not a reality of it. The chart is just a default starting place. The question is how a person adapts and learns -- which is what we are all doing.

Some people will have more trouble, more trials of learning by difficult circumstances than others. This may be indicated by a couple things: (a) their chart; (b) their karma. Just as no karma is impossibly difficult, no chart is either.

We each signed up for life on earth, whether unwitting to what could take place or with full awareness. It is important to understand that our astrological influences do not happen 'to' us, but rather that they blend with us at birth as a default and happen 'from' us thereafter.


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posted April 11, 2015 10:12 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for peony     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote

quote:
Originally posted by Koho:
This is an important acknowledgement for someone like me. Astrology taught me not to judge so harshly because I can see people's abstract struggles by way of their natal chart. Gives me more patience. I've never felt empathy was my greatest trait, possibly the Cappy Moon conjunct Saturn, so to have a natal chart helping me understand other people is wonderful.

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