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Topic: tPluto square nPluto: Who Better Than Pluto to Sort Pluto Out?!
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venus2tinkerbell Knowflake Posts: 819 From: New York, New York, USA Registered: Nov 2014
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posted April 11, 2015 12:25 PM
Has anyone experienced this? Can you share what you know? If not go ahead and share what you imagine! IP: Logged |
VacantGazer Knowflake Posts: 601 From: Europe Registered: Dec 2014
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posted April 11, 2015 12:33 PM
I want to know this too! I have pluto in Libra, it wont square for me yet, but i want to be prepared
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charlie Knowflake Posts: 3007 From: Registered: Jun 2012
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posted April 11, 2015 01:41 PM
I have the square. But tPluto is also conj nMoon and opposite nSun,Venus, Mercury and Saturn. I'm a mess. My Cap Moon have kept me solid, wild-but solid, for 38 years but now I don't even know myself. Can barely decide whether I like the color blue or black or which food to eat. I think everything is just being stripped from my soul until I stand there naked. IP: Logged |
Kannon McAfee Knowflake Posts: 631 From: Portland, OR - USA Registered: Oct 2011
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posted April 11, 2015 05:56 PM
I experienced Pluto transit square natal Pluto from 2004-08. Because Pluto (25 Virgo) is only 8* from my Asc (17 Virgo) I cannot fully separate the backside of the Pluto transit square my Asc from the Pluto-to-Pluto square. That (2004) is where the intense breakdown happened before I began to heal from chronic illness and the loneliness and secondary effects of the illness and chronic unemployment, etc.During that time I hit rock bottom and in a sense had to start over. I had to heal and was afforded the help to do so. It was also my introduction to mastery, the power we all have to effectively co-create our outcomes with the universe. It is a test of your empowerment and will allow you a process for discovering what you need to accomplish this empowerment enough to move on with the next phase of your life. It can be a time of regeneration -- if you allow it. But you cannot accomplish that if you are continuing to live on the surface. Because the transit lasts a total of around 5 years you should be afforded other Jupiter-related transits that help open up opportunities for growth in empowerment. VERY IMPORTANT: If you carry resentments, grudges, unforgiveness past the period of this transit, then you may find that your empowerment is further diminished rather than strengthened. I highly recommend this transit as a period of inventory taking for internal well being, not merely a financial, domestic, or relational rearranging. Leave it at only that and you may have learned nothing.
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venus2tinkerbell Knowflake Posts: 819 From: New York, New York, USA Registered: Nov 2014
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posted April 12, 2015 09:04 PM
Thank you so much for your replies. Kannon, I actually have more to share, maybe ask, but I wanted to wait until my brain is fully functioning. I caught a pretty nasty cold. So while I can manage a random comment here and there, I'm not quite ready for real thinking. But thanks so much. I plan on getting back to you.IP: Logged |
Gabby Moderator Posts: 6094 From: Registered: Sep 2012
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posted April 12, 2015 10:05 PM
My Pluto libra@11....so that square just passed me. My Pluto is on my AC, tr. Pluto was on my IC Everything was very emotional for me, not a lot physical happened. But I became very interested in my spirituality started meditating and doing spiritually healing work.
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mcmlxix Knowflake Posts: 452 From: Vega Registered: Aug 2010
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posted April 12, 2015 10:25 PM
quote: Originally posted by Kannon McAfee: I experienced Pluto transit square natal Pluto from 2004-08. Because Pluto (25 Virgo)
I have Pluto 24*32' Virgo, so we went through it about the same time. The mid aughts were not a good time of my life. Now I'm entering a Pluto transit trine my natal Sun. I hope to take positive advantage of this one. IP: Logged |
venus2tinkerbell Knowflake Posts: 819 From: New York, New York, USA Registered: Nov 2014
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posted April 19, 2015 10:07 AM
quote: Originally posted by Kannon McAfee: I experienced Pluto transit square natal Pluto from 2004-08. Because Pluto (25 Virgo) is only 8* from my Asc (17 Virgo) I cannot fully separate the backside of the Pluto transit square my Asc from the Pluto-to-Pluto square. That (2004) is where the intense breakdown happened before I began to heal from chronic illness and the loneliness and secondary effects of the illness and chronic unemployment, etc.During that time I hit rock bottom and in a sense had to start over. I had to heal and was afforded the help to do so. It was also my introduction to mastery, the power we all have to effectively co-create our outcomes with the universe. It is a test of your empowerment and will allow you a process for discovering what you need to accomplish this empowerment enough to move on with the next phase of your life. It can be a time of regeneration -- if you allow it. But you cannot accomplish that if you are continuing to live on the surface. Because the transit lasts a total of around 5 years you should be afforded other Jupiter-related transits that help open up opportunities for growth in empowerment. VERY IMPORTANT: If you carry resentments, grudges, unforgiveness past the period of this transit, then you may find that your empowerment is further diminished rather than strengthened. I highly recommend this transit as a period of inventory taking for internal well being, not merely a financial, domestic, or relational rearranging. Leave it at only that and you may have learned nothing.
Thank you so much for your response Kannon. We are all really lucky to have you here.
You mentioned grudges. I thought, I don't have any issues with anyone. I have forgiven everyone that has broken my heart, and I have accepted that the people that have hurt me were in pain themselves. I never would have guessed that the closest person to me, my mother might be an issue. We probably haven't had a fight in 18-20 years. When she's feeling touchy I leave her alone. When I am feeling anti-social and bite her head off for intruding on my personal space she backs off and apologizes. But the day after I read this, something very trivial like her adjusting the heat in the car set me off, which set her off, and I am surprised the car ride didn't end with us crashed into a tree. My problem with my mother is she is very psychic. But she is psychic, fearful, and my mother, so I always feel that if I don't keep her at arms length or contained, she will cast her fearful spell of doom and gloom on my cheerful parade. During our explosion, I blamed her for things that happened when I was 18 months old. I can't even remember when I was 18 months old. Since that day, and since reading your comment, I have been trying to see how I can get past this, but I am not sure I can. I am not angry with her, until she pushes too hard to "get in". Then she invokes my wrath, and that anger seems to carry a heavy weight. Is this a grudge???
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astra7 Knowflake Posts: 465 From: Registered: Sep 2014
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posted April 19, 2015 10:54 AM
quote: Originally posted by venus2tinkerbell: Thank you so much for your response Kannon. We are all really lucky to have you here.You mentioned grudges. I thought, I don't have any issues with anyone. I have forgiven everyone that has broken my heart, and I have accepted that the people that have hurt me were in pain themselves. I never would have guessed that the closest person to me, my mother might be an issue. We probably haven't had a fight in 18-20 years. When she's feeling touchy I leave her alone. When I am feeling anti-social and bite her head off for intruding on my personal space she backs off and apologizes. But the day after I read this, something very trivial like her adjusting the heat in the car set me off, which set her off, and I am surprised the car ride didn't end with us crashed into a tree. My problem with my mother is she is very psychic. But she is psychic, fearful, and my mother, so I always feel that if I don't keep her at arms length or contained, she will cast her fearful spell of doom and gloom on my cheerful parade. During our explosion, I blamed her for things that happened when I was 18 months old. I can't even remember when I was 18 months old. Since that day, and since reading your comment, I have been trying to see how I can get past this, but I am not sure I can. I am not angry with her, until she pushes too hard to "get in". Then she invokes my wrath, and that anger seems to carry a heavy weight. Is this a grudge???
No, it's not a grudge. If someone pokes you with a folk and you get irritated, it's natural!! She's the one invading you psychically and she should learn to respect your personal boundary.Those that have had problems with mother thought mother was the last person to think that the cause of their problem.... We've been there.
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venus2tinkerbell Knowflake Posts: 819 From: New York, New York, USA Registered: Nov 2014
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posted April 19, 2015 01:23 PM
quote: Originally posted by astra7: No, it's not a grudge. If someone pokes you with a folk and you get irritated, it's natural!! She's the one invading you psychically and she should learn to respect your personal boundary.Those that have had problems with mother thought mother was the last person to think that the cause of their problem.... We've been there.
Thanks astra7. I appreciate your feedback.
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Kannon McAfee Knowflake Posts: 631 From: Portland, OR - USA Registered: Oct 2011
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posted April 19, 2015 01:32 PM
quote: Originally posted by venus2tinkerbell: Thank you so much for your response Kannon. We are all really lucky to have you here.You mentioned grudges. I thought, I don't have any issues with anyone. I have forgiven everyone that has broken my heart, and I have accepted that the people that have hurt me were in pain themselves. I never would have guessed that the closest person to me, my mother might be an issue. We probably haven't had a fight in 18-20 years. When she's feeling touchy I leave her alone. When I am feeling anti-social and bite her head off for intruding on my personal space she backs off and apologizes. But the day after I read this, something very trivial like her adjusting the heat in the car set me off, which set her off, and I am surprised the car ride didn't end with us crashed into a tree. My problem with my mother is she is very psychic. But she is psychic, fearful, and my mother, so I always feel that if I don't keep her at arms length or contained, she will cast her fearful spell of doom and gloom on my cheerful parade. During our explosion, I blamed her for things that happened when I was 18 months old. I can't even remember when I was 18 months old. Since that day, and since reading your comment, I have been trying to see how I can get past this, but I am not sure I can. I am not angry with her, until she pushes too hard to "get in". Then she invokes my wrath, and that anger seems to carry a heavy weight. Is this a grudge???
I'd say look for how you can find more satisfactory boundaries with her and do some writing about it. You'll know. You could also do a visual/verbal releasing exercise of some kind. You can make it up yourself based on what you feel needs to be done. No need to do someone's prefabricated ritual if its not right for you. What I mean is to visualize and verbalize out loud that have a healthy, comfortable, empowering space that is yours and respect everyone else's such space, so that your contact with others is healing and appropriate. Do this as often as you feel you need until the dynamics change. It is important to do it when you are in a peaceful, objective state of mind, rather than when you're agitated by anything. Think of your explosion as a signal to renegotiate the power dynamic -- first with yourself -- and let it come naturally. ------------------ Professional Astrology, Expert Rectification Complete Rising Sign Descriptions IP: Logged | |