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Topic: Is it actually a virgo-thing to love "the natural way"?
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next to neptune
Knowflake Posts: 2546
From: The Moon
Registered: Aug 2013
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posted April 12, 2015 11:16 AM
  
I know that Virgo and the 6th house stands for health, and these days both our food and every product we use is filled with chemicals and stuff that is actually harmful to our health and is polluting the earth very fast (and animals, plants and the soil itself) Therefor it is also harmful to our planets "health".But is it actually a Virgo thing wanting to go all ecological, remove all toxic materials and getting our earth back on track health-wise. Cause every virgo-influenced person should be able to see, that it does not look especially good right now.
A lot of people get cancer today, and the way we grow and produce food is not ego-friendly and could result in a massive catastrophe, if we don't change direction. But to be honest I just don't see a lot of people being interested in these things at all, being truly interested in ecology and to ban all the toxic chemicals and other materials that we make today that is polluting the earth... it's like people dont really get how dangerous it can be to have no control with it? I got sun and mars in virgo and have a 6th house stellium. Do you have any 6th house influence or virgo influence, and how do you feel about this problem? Do you even consider this to be a problem at all? IP: Logged |
confusedaseff
Knowflake Posts: 114
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Registered: Feb 2015
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posted April 12, 2015 11:42 AM
my mother is heavy heavy virgo and she is a clean freak to the max. she just goes with whatever is the most effective, fastest, and cheapest option. end of story for her.but now with this whole clean and organic movement she's more conscious just because shes more aware i think. so while you won't be finding her mixing baking soda and vinegar together cause she just can't be arsed cause she's impatient - she'll choose the more natural cleaner at the super market if she has a choice between two that cost the same. but in the end - cost and efficiency is more important IP: Logged |
Vajra
Moderator Posts: 946
From: Europe
Registered: Dec 2012
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posted April 12, 2015 11:42 AM
Hi next to neptune,I feel much the same way about that issue as you do, and try to get "clean" food as much as possible (and would rather go without food for a day or two than eat something "unclean".) I also hate the way animals are grown and treated in conventional meat production. I have Virgo MC, and my Mars, Jupiter and Chiron are conjunct in H6 with Mars as 6th House ruler and AC co-ruler. So I'd say Virgo/6th House influence could indeed be a factor for caring about such issues. In Northern/Central Europe there's a shift in societal thinking occurring right now, with lots of people starting to take clean/ecological/compassionate/ethical food production more seriously in recent years, and thus, sales of ecologically produced foodstuffs have grown very strongly. Am rather happy about that, as you can imagine. IP: Logged |
next to neptune
Knowflake Posts: 2546
From: The Moon
Registered: Aug 2013
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posted April 12, 2015 12:09 PM
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Originally posted by Vajra:
Hi next to neptune,I feel much the same way about that issue as you do, and try to get "clean" food as much as possible (and would rather go without food for a day or two than eat something "unclean".) I also hate the way animals are grown and treated in conventional meat production. I have Virgo MC, and my Mars, Jupiter and Chiron are conjunct in H6 with Mars as 6th House ruler and AC co-ruler. So I'd say Virgo/6th House influence could indeed be a factor for caring about such issues. In Northern/Central Europe there's a shift in societal thinking occurring right now, with lots of people starting to take clean/ecological/compassionate/ethical food production more seriously in recent years, and thus, sales of ecologically produced foodstuffs have very grown strongly. Am rather happy about that, as you can imagine.
Yes I think people have grown a bit more conscious these years but mostly in the food section... there is just so many other areas where nothing happens still... most of the products we use today is made of plastic for an example, which is a very harmful material to the nature and animals - but in the end also to ourselves. IP: Logged |
SnowCatcher
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posted April 12, 2015 12:23 PM
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PixieJane
Moderator Posts: 6280
From: CA
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posted April 12, 2015 05:33 PM
I generally "feel the energy" of what I eat (at least I imagine I do) so I avoid a lot of factory farm foods and the like, meat, egg, milk, crops, and otherwise. Offhand the only law that I can remember voting for on a measure was to criminalize the way some were transporting animals which were mind boggling cruel that I hadn't realized how common it was. (I'm just glad that the farm I was raised on is shared by so many families that it's about impossible to turn it into a factory since they'd never agree on who gets what and who does what in addition to the usual resistance to change as it keeps it from being a lot more cruel.)I have no significant Virgo in my chart, however. Perhaps it's the Sag and Libra. Maybe it was the very pleasant memories I had of some hippie type farms (not my family's) that used composting (including composting toilets) that grew incredibly lush foods that were also better tasting that the stuff in the store as they focused on quality over quantity. That said, and perhaps my 3H Libra asserting itself (and demanding balance), "getting rid of all toxic chemicals" is probably a cure worse than the disease. It's better to plan against toxic practices. All chemicals are toxic or deadly if enough are used (you can even die if you drink too much water, and btw, these people were easily tricked into signing a petition to ban water because they went by how they were emotionally manipulated into wanting a "clean environment"). A lot of cancer comes from living a much longer time which means lifespans are increasing rather than decreasing, and though cancer is less prevalent in some parts of the world despite the long lifespans I believe they're eating the same quality food as the rest of us so that there's some other factor involved (maybe genetics, maybe lifestyle, maybe emotional health, maybe it's just that the smokers there smoke only one cigarette a day than an entire pack, etc). IP: Logged |
Solar_Leo_Queen
Knowflake Posts: 2219
From: Planet Earth
Registered: Jan 2014
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posted April 12, 2015 05:45 PM
I have Virgo mercury and venus and I do think people should be more responsible with what they do to the environment. I do the best as I can to not use too much paper. I even think schools should not be allowed to use too much paper. I also always make sure the things I own last for a long time so I won't have to keep throwing out old stuff and buying new stuff. Lastly, I recycle as much as I can and give the things I don't need or want away. But then when it comes to cleaning programs, not sure if I actually see myself doing it. I get pretty grossed out easily.IP: Logged |
starmoon
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posted April 12, 2015 06:24 PM
wouldn't virgo be more interested in health as it pertains to the self - their own body, food, nutrition, etc. and perhaps another sign (aqua? sag?) would be more interested in the global impact of these things? i see virgo as caring about their own health, not the bigger pictureIP: Logged |
Vajra
Moderator Posts: 946
From: Europe
Registered: Dec 2012
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posted April 12, 2015 06:38 PM
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Originally posted by starmoon:
wouldn't virgo be more interested in health as it pertains to the self - their own body, food, nutrition, etc. and perhaps another sign (aqua? sag?) would be more interested in the global impact of these things? i see virgo as caring about their own health, not the bigger picture
I wouldn't say it's only Virgos who care about improving their environment - but they are rather prone to pointing out flaws in the system, aren't they? All the Virgo-heavy people I know are "critics" at heart and can never leave something they perceive as lacking or imperfect alone. So, combined with Virgoan health-consciousness this can easily lead to them becoming interested in improving food production/environmental protection and other such issues if they perceive this as a systemic problem in need of fixing. But I would suspect that animal rights are perhaps more close to the heart of a Sagittarian or Pisces-influenced person, while ecology could be easily seen as a classic Aquarian concern…while health food is perhaps an area of interest especially for Cancerians. It might actually be interesting to study a few charts of famous eco activists to see what influences they have, don't you think? IP: Logged |
PixieJane
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From: CA
Registered: Oct 2010
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posted April 12, 2015 08:06 PM
^^Good idea! I met Julia "Butterfly" Hill back in 2000, IIRC, and I found her both sincere and sensible (as opposed to extreme or just "thinking with her feelings" and she wasn't against sustainable logging and sounded as if she'd have been happy if the actual owners of Pacific Lumber were back in charge rather than the company from Texas that took it over through dirty tactics and were just strip mining the place, and since then she's been involved in many related issues including farming). The wiki link gives her birthday as February 18, 1974. IP: Logged |
bansheequeen
Knowflake Posts: 850
From: Beachville, USA
Registered: Jan 2012
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posted April 13, 2015 03:59 AM
Oh god I'm Virgo rising and I try to be as natural as I can be. I'm not super obsessive about it but I'm more conscious of it than most people. I'm careful what I put into my body. But I am also very sensitive to a lot of things so I giess I have learned to be careful.IP: Logged |
Iced8Ace
Knowflake Posts: 196
From: CA
Registered: Aug 2014
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posted April 13, 2015 04:24 AM
No, it's a pisces trait. Virgo's prefer natural things when its the most practical and beneficial. Health included. I've 4 pisces planets & virgo Asc. IP: Logged |
Geeky
Knowflake Posts: 1415
From: the Sun, vacation house on Mercury
Registered: Dec 2012
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posted April 13, 2015 07:17 PM
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Originally posted by next to neptune:
But is it actually a Virgo thing wanting to go all ecological, remove all toxic materials and getting our earth back on track health-wise.
ME!! THIS VIRGO!! *waves arms wildly* I am a true tree hugger. Cloth maxi pads, cloth diapers & wipes (when the kids were babies), no chemicals in the house (I seriously clean with only hot water and dr. bronner's soap), etc. I eat organic when possible (about 80% of the time) and I went vegan. Not wanting to get into the vegan debate again, but I truly believe animal agriculture is destroying the planet more than all of the transportation industry combined (cars, planes, trains...) as well as taking much of our clean water. I walk everywhere I can or I borrow a car when I really need to drive. Let's see... I grow my own veggies in a container garden and I am careful with electricity in the house (open curtains for daylight, use low level led lighting at night). Oh and I only buy second hand clothing. Except underwear and socks. I can't seem to get over that one. This Virgo has a bit of germophobia. ------------------
“Most people would rather be sheep than stand on their own with antlers on.” IP: Logged |
Vajra
Moderator Posts: 946
From: Europe
Registered: Dec 2012
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posted April 14, 2015 04:27 PM
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Originally posted by PixieJane:
I met Julia "Butterfly" Hill back in 2000, IIRC, and I found her both sincere and sensible (as opposed to extreme or just "thinking with her feelings" and she wasn't against sustainable logging and sounded as if she'd have been happy if the actual owners of Pacific Lumber were back in charge rather than the company from Texas that took it over through dirty tactics and were just strip mining the place, and since then she's been involved in many related issues including farming). The wiki link gives her birthday as February 18, 1974.
^This seems like a very good example to study. This is her pic from Wikipedia:  And here's her chart set at noon without house placements:  Please note that on her birthday the Sun changed signs, which means if she was born after 8 p.m. then her Sun would be in Pisces. So she's not necessarily an Aqua Sun. I added asteroid GAEA - it was the only one that came to mind for eco matters, maybe others have more to suggest? No Virgo emphasis in this chart, but there could be something going on in her 6th House. What stands out to me is the Jupiter - Uranus - Saturn grand trine (very exact, too) conjunct both her Sun and South Node. Interesting structure, and the energies are very much in line with a life calling as the one she chose. IP: Logged |
next to neptune
Knowflake Posts: 2546
From: The Moon
Registered: Aug 2013
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posted April 15, 2015 03:21 AM
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Originally posted by starmoon:
wouldn't virgo be more interested in health as it pertains to the self - their own body, food, nutrition, etc. and perhaps another sign (aqua? sag?) would be more interested in the global impact of these things? i see virgo as caring about their own health, not the bigger picture
But the global problems with pollution, toxic chemicals etc. is also effecting the individual person! I personally have an extra interest in these issues, because I myself don't want to die from cancer as a 30-year old for an example...But also because I don't want to see everything that took nature billions of years to create, will take 50 years for us humans to destroy. And we really need to do something, unless we want a very dramatic change in the way we live right now. If we all just change our habits little by little NOW, then we could avoid a total catastrophe with death to follow to a lot of random people IP: Logged |
next to neptune
Knowflake Posts: 2546
From: The Moon
Registered: Aug 2013
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posted April 15, 2015 03:24 AM
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Originally posted by PixieJane:
That said, and perhaps my 3H Libra asserting itself (and demanding balance), "getting rid of all toxic chemicals" is probably a cure worse than the disease. It's better to plan against toxic practices. All chemicals are toxic or deadly if enough are used (you can even die if you drink too much water, and btw, these people were easily tricked into signing a petition to ban water because they went by how they were emotionally manipulated into wanting a "clean environment"). A lot of cancer comes from living a much longer time which means lifespans are increasing rather than decreasing, and though cancer is less prevalent in some parts of the world despite the long lifespans I believe they're eating the same quality food as the rest of us so that there's some other factor involved (maybe genetics, maybe lifestyle, maybe emotional health, maybe it's just that the smokers there smoke only one cigarette a day than an entire pack, etc).
Yes, it is very important to be in balance with nature, that is crucial to everything else. And no, it's not the increasing lifespan that is causing more cancer, people get cancer at any age to day, and you see more people getting cancer when they're just 20-40 than ever before. IP: Logged | |
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