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Topic: Astro chart of babies
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theunknown Knowflake Posts: 3089 From: Registered: Dec 2010
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posted April 12, 2015 12:09 PM
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Vajra Knowflake Posts: 1737 From: Europe Registered: Dec 2012
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posted April 12, 2015 12:30 PM
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theunknown Knowflake Posts: 3089 From: Registered: Dec 2010
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posted April 12, 2015 01:26 PM
well the kid has sun square pluto, moon conjunct plutoI kinda predict that he would have a sun square pluto before he was born but wow, I saw his chart and wow ... I mean ... this is very different from just void of an element. ... IP: Logged |
venus2tinkerbell Knowflake Posts: 2121 From: the baseball hall of fame Registered: Nov 2014
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posted April 12, 2015 01:50 PM
Before the world has a chance to get at them and confuse them, babies and small children let you know just exactly what they need. They do come with an instruction manual. The parent or care giver just has to have the desire to read. Uninterested parents is a bigger problem than babies with strong charts. If I were an astrologer I would do synastry between parent and child, and examine the parents' charts just as thoroughly as the babies. I have two boys with mars square Pluto. They are easy. All they need is to be listened to. I have a girl with Venus in 12. She's easy. From the start she let me know that she needed a lot of affection, more than I'm accustomed to giving, but I have adjusted. I have a boy with Mars and Moon in Capricorn. I've read that these are supposed to be challenging placements (and the Moon represents my own sternness), but he just needs a voice. He needs to know that he can say whatever he feels. He needs independence and alone time, and exposure to new ideas, challenges, and opportunities. I have an adopted son from a country where birth certificates don't exist. I know what year he was born, but not the month or day. Forget about time. He came to me at (around) 12 yrs. old. I have to intuit his needs, and understand that he has already been conditioned to a point. Love is something you give and receive, and it's a way and means. I like this post. Thank you.IP: Logged |
Vajra Knowflake Posts: 1737 From: Europe Registered: Dec 2012
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posted April 12, 2015 03:11 PM
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theunknown Knowflake Posts: 3089 From: Registered: Dec 2010
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posted April 12, 2015 03:20 PM
quote: Originally posted by Vajra: Oh, that's what worries you? I have Sun sq. Pluto, Moon opp. Pluto and Sun sq. Moon, all in tight orbs. I would not worry over such a child, they likely can cope with almost anything. Developing a healthy masculine self-identity with a water-heavy chart and no fire, however, is a different story IMO - such kids are unfortenately more easily screwed up, due to their extreme sensitivity, by mean, cold, or absent-minded parenting. But no chart is in itself a real problem if the kid gets a good basis laid in early childhood, such as venus2tinkerbell described.
Well, I am a sun-square=pluto natal myself. I know this kid is gonna be strong but I have no doubts his father is gonna be abusive. And what worries me is because I have this aspect myself. I am strong but I don't wish it on anyone. I kinda foresee this aspect coming but at the same time part of me feels sad about what might happen to him and his family.
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maira Knowflake Posts: 1245 From: Registered: Jun 2009
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posted April 12, 2015 03:21 PM
quote: Originally posted by Vajra: Oh, that's what worries you? I have Sun sq. Pluto, Moon opp. Pluto and Sun sq. Moon, all in tight orbs. I would not worry over a child born with such placements, they likely can cope with almost anything. Developing a healthy, positive masculine self-identity with an extremely water-heavy chart and no fire, however, is a different story - such kids are unfortunately rather easy to screw up, due to their extreme sensitivity, by mean, cold, or absent-minded parenting. But no chart is in itself a real problem if the kid gets a good basis laid in early childhood, such as venus2tinkerbell described.
Such kind and inspiring words. Would you mind if I e-mailed you sometime?
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Vajra Knowflake Posts: 1737 From: Europe Registered: Dec 2012
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posted April 12, 2015 03:27 PM
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maira Knowflake Posts: 1245 From: Registered: Jun 2009
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posted April 12, 2015 05:51 PM
quote: Originally posted by Vajra: @maira: Sure, about what?
Oh, nothing in particular, Vajra, I've had a series of transits that made me lose almost all my friends, so I'm currently looking for one IP: Logged |
Vajra Knowflake Posts: 1737 From: Europe Registered: Dec 2012
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posted April 12, 2015 06:03 PM
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theunknown Knowflake Posts: 3089 From: Registered: Dec 2010
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posted April 12, 2015 06:41 PM
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Vajra Knowflake Posts: 1737 From: Europe Registered: Dec 2012
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posted April 12, 2015 06:45 PM
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theunknown Knowflake Posts: 3089 From: Registered: Dec 2010
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posted April 12, 2015 07:15 PM
quote: Originally posted by Vajra: Great! Interesting chart indeed. Have to go to bed now but will look at it tomorrow, and maybe someone else can meanwhile give their opinion already. One question: Is the birth time rounded to the quarter-hour or exact? Just asking because the AC is so very near the end of Pisces that a few minutes difference might change a lot of house cusps.
Asc is exact I think. The child was born today
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sis Knowflake Posts: 483 From: Registered: Mar 2011
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posted April 12, 2015 09:29 PM
from my point of view this is a strong chart -not heavily afflicted... He will have a strong personality and a healty ego. Definetely unconventional, most probably very brave and can be quite lucky as well. He will have creative talents and since the 5th house receives very good aspects and the MC in a very good condition, he has the potential to be a success..He has all these beautiful trines, escape lines... as long as you have escape lines, nothing can be that bad. Venus seems to be in trouble... Saturn opposition can cause a limitation on self value especially when young.. money may be an issue.. It might take a while before he starts earning what he rightfully deserves. On the other hand, venus -saturn opposition can help to eliminate the negative effects of Venus square Neptune. It's always good to have a harsh Saturn aspect near a dreamy illusive Neptune... 29 Aneretic degree; I made a lot of research on how interparate it on a natal chart, but still it's a mystery. Some say it's bad, causes indecisiveness, timing errors; however One of my close pals has Venus in 29th degree - she is married to her highschool lover / they are committed to each other for 26 years and doing very well. Plus she has very good social manners and loved by many. she is a very cool lady...so, let's not pay attention to the degree... Having Neptune in Pisces in the 12th house ( own sign, own house )He most probably will have psychic abilities... A very rich fantasy world... And the Pluto aspects.. Well, I have sun, mercury, venus, asc square pluto Yeah, my father is a controlling man can be very manupulative and can be psycologicaly abusive but you know what we still get a long... I like him Moon conjunct Pluto - I have 2 friends who have this aspect and they insist on that their mother was not controlling at all.. But well they don't have Pluto in Capricorn.. he has moon square Uranus as well. and that can cause mother issues / some kind of an emotional shock in early childhood... an experience that causes his emotional nature to transform.. I don't think that he will get lost in emotional chaos, extreme moodiness which this combination of aspects can cause, becuase Moon is in Capricorn and Saturn effect shall tame Uranian madness down. He also has Moon Mars trine and Neptune sextile.. His relationship with his mother can't be too bad. Encouragement and other wordly caring is there... Well, for sure like the rest of fellow humanbeings he will face some difficulties, early losses - Saturn in the 8th- but nothing he can't cope with.. IP: Logged |
venus2tinkerbell Knowflake Posts: 2121 From: the baseball hall of fame Registered: Nov 2014
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posted April 12, 2015 09:36 PM
Edit:I think maybe my fever, was talking just a bit. IP: Logged |
theunknown Knowflake Posts: 3089 From: Registered: Dec 2010
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posted April 13, 2015 10:29 AM
Thank you sis. IP: Logged |
Vajra Knowflake Posts: 1737 From: Europe Registered: Dec 2012
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posted April 14, 2015 04:03 PM
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theunknown Knowflake Posts: 3089 From: Registered: Dec 2010
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posted April 14, 2015 04:29 PM
He has the Piscean nose ... and Gem IC would make sense for his family situation. His mother has cap moon too. IP: Logged |
Vajra Knowflake Posts: 1737 From: Europe Registered: Dec 2012
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posted April 14, 2015 04:34 PM
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