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Topic: Are quincunx/inconjunct really important in astrology?
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Geminiyoungster Knowflake Posts: 151 From: Registered: Jun 2013
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posted April 17, 2015 07:31 AM
I have a lot of tight quincunx/inconjunct orbs in my chart to my personal planets , but while reading from a blog a writer said that it's not that important like the other aspects in the natal chart. For example, like the squares, trines or etc. This is not the first time that i've read or heard somebody saying this, so is this a true statement? To be honest, since I have a lot of them in my chart, I feel like I can notice them a little bit more in my personal natal chart. Therefore, feeling the importance of them. I would love to hear opinions!
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Ami Anne Moderator Posts: 61621 From: Pluto/house next to NickiG Registered: Sep 2010
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posted April 17, 2015 08:12 AM
They are important but they must have a narrow orb. I have an article or two on them if you want to see.------------------ Want to Read Simple, Fun,Sexy Articles on Astrology? Check Me Out, DUDE. http://www.mychristianpsychic.com/
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sis Knowflake Posts: 405 From: Registered: Mar 2011
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posted April 17, 2015 09:11 AM
I think an inconjunct is a major aspect. Not a minor. But you should use orb max 1.I have moon inconjunct mercury exact in my natal chart and I feel the effect of it to my bones...
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Ceridwen Moderator Posts: 18861 From: Registered: Jul 2011
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posted April 17, 2015 09:43 AM
Moon quinkunx Saturn (0°09 - though it is not the tightest aspect in my chart, that would go to Saturn trine Juno with only one minute of orb). Nevertheless, I certainly feel that quinkunx keenly, and it feels occasionally more stressful than my Venus-Pluto-square. IP: Logged |
Kannon McAfee Knowflake Posts: 631 From: Portland, OR - USA Registered: Oct 2011
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posted April 17, 2015 12:09 PM
Are quincunx/inconjunct really important in astrology? Yes, they are.From The Arkana Dictionary of Astrology ... quote:
inconjunct The term is frequently used in modern astrology. It should be properly used as an equivalent ... for DISJUNCT ... forms no aspects ... void of influence ... as aspects are concerned. The term was also applied ... to the QUINCUNX aspect of 150 degrees, which is widely regarded as an aspect of some power...
The quincunx should be considered a major aspect. It is also a standout since it is the only 30-degree aspect created by dividing the 360-degree circle by a fractioned number (2-2/5). My impression is that for some people's charts it is the pivotal aspect for understanding personal growth and transformation. Certainly for a person who has lots of them, or has a Yod configuration, the quincunx becomes a major part of the chart to interpret it fully and properly. Just as the 'minor' bi/quintiles forming a grand quintile in my own chart become as important as some other major aspects. As with any aspect, the more exact it is the more potent and more important it is. The orb with this aspect is tricky, but not a strict 1 degree. You can use at least 2 degrees. My birth chart has Venus 28TAU49 quincunx Jupiter 0SCO26 <1*37'>=151*37'. This one is an example of why it is important to think of aspects as created by moving planets. In a separating quincunx involving the Moon to Sun, for example, you have the Moon first passing a 144* bi-quintile to the Sun, which can clearly be shown to have an orb of a couple degrees for natal purposes. So that takes it to about 146. Then you've got 1-2* 'rest' or fade out before the applying quincunx/150 fades in. Then you've got a shorter distance to the next aspect, the septile/154*18'. My preference is 147.5* to 152*. What some think are quincunxes at 153-154* are actually Septiles. You can't count them in Yod configurations. So orbs of influence for aspects are not necessarily equidistant. With the quincunx the orb of influence could be wider on the applying side, shorter on the separating side. (This may actually be true for most aspects.) Astrologers generally use a preference for orbs that we arrive at over time, or we just go by a particular school of thought. Truth is with anything mathematical, a conclusion can be reached if we have the time and aptitude to do the right kinds of tests. Think of it as astrological addition and subtraction.
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mcmlxix Knowflake Posts: 452 From: Vega Registered: Aug 2010
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posted April 17, 2015 02:24 PM
I never paid attention to quincunx before, but my Jupiter is in this aspect to Saturn at 0*49'...the only one I have. Neither of these are personal planets, and the description of this aspect I've read is not me. IP: Logged |
Ami Anne Moderator Posts: 61621 From: Pluto/house next to NickiG Registered: Sep 2010
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posted April 17, 2015 02:25 PM
quote: Originally posted by mcmlxix: I never paid attention to quincunx before, but my Jupiter is in this aspect to Saturn at 0*49'...the only one I have. Neither of these are personal planets, and the description of this aspect I've read is not me.
You may have to reconcile being extravagant with being prudent.
Does this fit? in which houses are they because the houses have to be reconciled, too. It is an aspect of adaptation!
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mcmlxix Knowflake Posts: 452 From: Vega Registered: Aug 2010
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posted April 18, 2015 11:07 PM
quote: Originally posted by Ami Anne: You may have to reconcile being extravagant with being prudent. It is an aspect of adaptation!
That I'm able to always adapt? My childhood, while happy, was poor. There were no extravagances. In my 20s, on my own a thousand miles from home, was when my extravagance began. The real me emerged, and I liked to spend money...a lot...but not really pay the bills. In my 30s, I figured out how to pay bills first, then spend the rest. Still today, 2nd house Libra Jupiter, I'm too indulgent with myself and generous to others. I wonder if Saturn will have a lesson in prudence in my later years. I might have to retire in a less developed country. 9th house Taurus Saturn. IP: Logged |
Ami Anne Moderator Posts: 61621 From: Pluto/house next to NickiG Registered: Sep 2010
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posted April 18, 2015 11:46 PM
Well, the adaptation comes after tipping to one side too much and then the other, and then finding the balance. It sounds like you are doing this lol------------------ Want to Read Simple, Fun,Sexy Articles on Astrology? Check Me Out, DUDE. http://www.mychristianpsychic.com/
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mcmlxix Knowflake Posts: 452 From: Vega Registered: Aug 2010
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posted April 19, 2015 10:51 AM
To combine inconjunctions and outer planet transits...Neptune (7th house Pisces) will transit inconjunct my natal Venus (12th house Leo) in 2016-17...followed quickly by Neptune opposing my natal 1st house Virgo Sun.IP: Logged |
la_mer Knowflake Posts: 110 From: Registered: Mar 2012
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posted April 19, 2015 05:51 PM
quote: Originally posted by mcmlxix: To combine inconjunctions and outer planet transits...Neptune (7th house Pisces) will transit inconjunct my natal Venus (12th house Leo) in 2016-17...followed quickly by Neptune opposing my natal 1st house Virgo Sun.
totally get that! I feel the quincunx intensely at the moment via transits too.. right now pluto is all over my moon/chiron/sun in gemini and first I thought it was saturn causing all the upheaval with its return this year, but there is just too much of a surrender/change/transformation theme in my life for it to be the old guy all by himself IP: Logged |