posted April 19, 2015 12:34 AM            

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Originally posted by Sandra018:
i have Mars opp Pluto in my chart and most of these things apply to me as well.
there is a defenitely a male type energy around me, and i am intimidating..i also have sun conjunct Mars and Venus, all opp Pluto...so there is a lot of energy coming into play here..
what i have noticed, is that at my work place- all of them actually there was always a boss who wanted to "break" me in a way..someone i clashed with..my pluto is 6th house and its sq my MC as well..
i often find people who are weaker have a problem with my energy, and if they happen to be in a higher position then me, they will try to subdue me lol
anyone with similiar experience?

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posted April 19, 2015 02:44 PM            

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Originally posted by midnightvenus:
Peony, what were the orbs for the people you mentioned?

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midnightvenus, the roommate's Mars-Pluto, I don't remember. The friend has a conjunction, 8 degrees.

posted April 19, 2015 09:45 PM            

mars oppose pluto. Taurus mars is in detriment so I'm not hard core and don't come across as hard core. But it's hard to stop once I "start".

posted April 19, 2015 10:50 PM            

I do have Sun square Pluto and Moon conjunct Pluto. I think they're all very intense in different ways. Sun-Pluto is about extreme personality, Moon-Pluto is about extreme emotion. I think Mars-Pluto is extreme desire. So, the issues can come mainly when you're not getting your way or achieving your goals. You can obsess over what you want to an unhealthy degree.

But, I think part of the beauty of Pluto is its destructiveness. There can be positive destruction, of course. It's the old mantra of creativity and destruction being intertwined.

Pluto people can never really get rid of this destructiveness and shouldn't. It can feed and enrich us and others in very positive ways. I like to think of it as "healthy ruthlessness." Totally annihilating anything that's in the way of our higher ideals. Not for the sake of power. We already have power, on the inside. But, for the sake of creation, empowerment, transformation, etc.

posted April 20, 2015 02:14 AM            

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Originally posted by the89freespirit:
I don't have Mars-Pluto but I have Mars in the 8th. I'd imagine it's similar yet somehow less overwhelming or all-consuming for 8th House Mars.

I do have Sun square Pluto and Moon conjunct Pluto. I think they're all very intense in different ways. Sun-Pluto is about extreme personality, Moon-Pluto is about extreme emotion. I think Mars-Pluto is extreme desire. So, the issues can come mainly when you're not getting your way or achieving your goals. You can obsess over what you want to an unhealthy degree.

But, I think part of the beauty of Pluto is its destructiveness. There can be positive destruction, of course. It's the old mantra of creativity and destruction being intertwined.

Pluto people can never really get rid of this destructiveness and shouldn't. It can feed and enrich us and others in very positive ways. I like to think of it as "healthy ruthlessness." Totally annihilating anything that's in the way of our higher ideals. Not for the sake of power. We already have power, on the inside. But, for the sake of creation, empowerment, transformation, etc.

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posted April 20, 2015 05:28 AM            

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Originally posted by the89freespirit:
I think Mars-Pluto is extreme desire. So, the issues can come mainly when you're not getting your way or achieving your goals. You can obsess over what you want to an unhealthy degree.

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Good point.
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I have the conjunction but I wouldn't describe myself as "intense" in any way, shape or form. (Many factors in my chart can explain this.)

However I've experienced sexual abuse and have had some extreme infatuations that made me go "mad" (i.e. self-destructive).

Off the top of my head, I can think of at least 4 people (besides myself) who have a Mars/Pluto aspect that have experienced sexual abuse:
2 trines, 1 opposition and 1 quincunx.

posted April 21, 2015 07:55 PM            

I have moved mountains to change the quality of my life. Definite determination.

I have clawed up out of holes that would have drowned and buried others. I see it as an asset if you focus the energy positively.

posted May 17, 2015 04:06 AM            

I'll definitely fight for my rights and serious about my goals in life. in work wise, some times I think I can do it myself better than some one else. not so much on difficulty in asking other people for help.

But I will try to do myself FIRST and try to figure them out before asking other people. unless I totally have no clue.

Perfectionist in a way and serious "no BS kind of person". I have high standards for myself and my work, which can be quite extreme if the other parties are more laid back.

And my friends always say that I always tend to go the hard ways or learn by the hard ways.

but I'm still learning how to deal with it.

posted May 17, 2015 04:16 AM            

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Originally posted by CuriousPisces:
I have mars to pluto and also sun to pluto in my natal.

I'll definitely fight for my rights and serious about my goals in life. in work wise, some times I think I can do it myself better than some one else. not so much on difficulty in asking other people for help.

But I will try to do myself FIRST and try to figure them out before asking other people. unless I totally have no clue.

Perfectionist in a way and serious "no BS kind of person". I have high standards for myself and my work, which can be quite extreme if the other parties are more laid back.

And my friends always say that I always tend to go the hard ways or learn by the hard ways.

but I'm still learning how to deal with it.

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posted May 17, 2015 06:36 AM            

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Originally posted by Yanmorg:
I have mars conjunct Pluto and mars square Saturn.

A lot of what has already been said rings true in my case.

I am very strong-willed and resilient. If it's something that my heart desires, I won't stop until I get it or I get some type of result from it.

I hate that I intimidate a lot of guys because I really do have a soft and tender side. I just have a hard to expressing it and this aspect definitely adds to the masculinity I already feel from my afflicted Scorpio stellium by Saturn.

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Could someone help?

posted May 17, 2015 06:40 AM            

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Originally posted by Virgo28:
I have the quintile and Mars-Pluto soft aspect describes me well.

People with the soft aspect find themselves being the conduit of power/violence. There have been many instances where I have stopped potentially fatal situations.

My Grandmother had the square and all her husbands died in a very violent way.

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posted May 17, 2015 01:31 PM            

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Originally posted by Ami Anne:
I am doing a synastry in which they have this as a DW. There is violence, too

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posted May 17, 2015 01:35 PM            

I can't say but I would expect it imo

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posted May 17, 2015 02:37 PM            

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Originally posted by Ami Anne:
Always???

I can't say but I would expect it imo

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So could say we're used to the energy?

Would it be less or more intense or no difference

posted May 23, 2015 09:58 AM            

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Originally posted by cchampliss2:
With the mars square pluto aspect for natal, what type of energy does the person give off? Is it pretty dark energy? Or heavy? I read on some site that this is usually associated with power and drive because that's what mars and pluto are, but the sexual aspect of it just sort of comes out unknowingly. The friction between the two is always there and the energy is just intense for the people around them And for the natal person, they're sometimes unaware of how that energy gets proejected.

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