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Topic: Virgo and underestimating oneself
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Solar_Leo_Queen
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From: Planet Earth
Registered: Jan 2014
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posted April 21, 2015 01:20 AM
  
I noticed that I underestimate myself a lot when it comes to my education, the way I learn, think, and communicate. I also do that in areas of love, relationships, creativity, and romance. I would attribute this to my Mercury-Venus conjunction in Virgo (3rd house). I feel like I'm so little in the areas ruled by these two planets. I might seem confident and so sure of myself with 3rd house things because Leo rules that house, but literally, the Virgo energy seeps in all the time. Aside from that, Virgo rules my 4th house and this is the area of my life where I feel like I'm not good enough and keep working on myself to attain some perfection.I feel like Virgo energy is very self-defeating, even more so than Pisces because it does it in a conscious way. To me, the house it rules is where we feel the need for perfection and the planets in that sign represents where we feel tiny and insignificant. Where is Virgo located in your chart? Any Virgo planets or a strong 6th house? IP: Logged |
wintersun
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posted April 21, 2015 02:27 AM
My rising sign is Virgo,so I know,in my whole life,I've been a perfectionist of "myself" :P And my 5th house(house of expression and creativity)is in Capricorn,so I always felt my self expression was so limited.I have Neptune there too,doing a square to my Mars in Aries(in the 7th house),making me very shy to the public.IP: Logged |
PixieJane
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From: CA
Registered: Oct 2010
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posted April 21, 2015 04:07 AM
I haven't thought about it before but this might explain something. My 2H is Virgo (and 6H Cappie) and I tend to be a perfectionist with my work, though at the same time I don't put up with BS attempts to rip me off or mistreatment (I even stopped a volunteer position as I felt insulted that all of a sudden they wanted to drug test all volunteers without a good reason). This could help explain why I strive to stay out of debt as well and am typically good about keeping all my bills paid (though there are days I get nostalgic when I could fit almost everything I owned in a pack and duffel bag, it was a freer time in many ways and didn't mind sleeping in tents, barns, flop houses, and the like). As for the perfectionist tendency it really showed when a service I provided that had an intricate system of privacy became less secure after a computer of mine died. The chances that anyone would take it as some of my customers felt was a real risk was almost nil in my mind (and still had other safeguards) but I had to disclose that to them in case they wished to discontinue services as I just felt obligated to do so. And one thing that bothered me is that I could often spend less than 2 hours and $10 to create some dolls and sell them for about $50. I couldn't believe I was getting away with that and when I first gave a price I was barely haggled and almost lowered it but didn't want to sabotage my haggling in the future. And then I'd see such dolls displayed in a glass case (marked "originals") for over twice what I sold it for and it sold! One was, IIRC, $120 (not including tax) and it sold in 2 months! It just blows my mind that they can sell for that much and though I'll still the occasional doll like that (I'm asked for more than I do sell actually, especially as the holidays approach) it just feels wrong somehow. I'm not even sure how because I don't think money is evil, I just don't see how people find that much value in it. IP: Logged |
PixieJane
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From: CA
Registered: Oct 2010
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posted April 21, 2015 04:10 AM
As for 6H Cappie, that might contribute to why I tend to feed stray animals and take care of them when I can (though my charity is fickle, yet now that I have a cat to take care of, I do so very well). Though funny story, IMO, I once ordered some Thai prawns that was utterly delicious while heated but it was so spicy hot...I should have ordered some rice but it would take too long to wait so I endured...and ended up drinking Singhas (Thai beer) until I was pretty buzzed. And right after the group I was with stopped at the grocery store and my then partner needed a restroom (she'd drank a lot of Singhas herself) and while walking behind the rest I saw several cans of Fancy Feast on sale and just grabbed them on impulse thinking that was a good price with the intention of feeding the "outside cats" (that is the strays). I guess it was because others were buying things and my partner was distracted (I recall making commentary about some magazine for sale and my friends were buzzing about the engagement of one of them) but I got the Fancy Feast all the way home before my partner realized it and hit the roof as I sometimes bickered about how much money she wasted and here I just bought several cans of Fancy Feast for cats that didn't even belong to us! While I could've argued it (as in a difference between a couple of bucks and well over a hundred) I just said it was the alcohol, what was done is done, made us some ice cream (as both our tongues were still burning from the Thai spices) topped with brandy and made her brandy drinks that she liked and hoped she'd forget. She apparently did though I didn't make an issue of money for awhile after that, kept the cat food in my spare room, fed the cats when she wasn't around, and had a nearby cat lady recycle the cans for me so that "Fancy Feast Gate" didn't become an issue again.  IP: Logged |
Ami Anne
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From: Pluto/house next to NickiG
Registered: Sep 2010
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posted April 21, 2015 10:32 AM
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lvASTRO
Knowflake Posts: 329
From: Saturn
Registered: Aug 2013
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posted April 21, 2015 10:38 PM
Virgo SN or Virgo in the 12th can definitely signify a feeling of lost confidence. One heads so much towards perfection that can never be attained that he defeats himself before he even tries...This can go for any Virgo placement. IP: Logged |
mollywu
Knowflake Posts: 307
From: Chengdu, China
Registered: Jul 2014
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posted April 22, 2015 05:15 AM
I am a Virgo ASC, with Virgo Sun/Venus/Saturn/NN in the first house.... Virgo is also my 2nd house cusp. I am sometimes quite critical; sometimes want to be perfect, sometimes I don't. But I like to help/serve others. I am also careful when spending money, don't like to buy very expensive things, cost-effective should be the priority, but I am also generous. Sometimes I feel too stressful because of responsibility concern and want to escape.IP: Logged |
Geeky
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From: the Sun, vacation house on Mercury
Registered: Dec 2012
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posted April 22, 2015 05:28 PM
I am *really* lucky that in spite of having a Virgo Sun, that's about all of the Virgo I've got. Hmmm well I do have Saturn in Virgo.Anyway, my Sun squares Neptune & my Moon (both in Sag) but I think that tension is lessened/negated a bit by the fact that my Sun also trines the MC. It also has a minor aspect to Uranus (fun!). I am Fire dominant (Leo and Sag) and as I have matured in life, I can more easily take on those energies of being strong-minded, sure of myself, etc. that are associated with Fire signs. ------------------
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Solar_Leo_Queen
Knowflake Posts: 2234
From: Planet Earth
Registered: Jan 2014
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posted April 23, 2015 11:03 AM
quote:
Originally posted by Geeky:
I am *really* lucky that in spite of having a Virgo Sun, that's about all of the Virgo I've got. Hmmm well I do have Saturn in Virgo.Anyway, my Sun squares Neptune & my Moon (both in Sag) but I think that tension is lessened/negated a bit by the fact that my Sun also trines the MC. It also has a minor aspect to Uranus (fun!). I am Fire dominant (Leo and Sag) and as I have matured in life, I can more easily take on those energies of being strong-minded, sure of myself, etc. that are associated with Fire signs.
That's sorta what I said when I thought about my two Virgo placements. I'm lucky enough that my sun is in Leo and is very strong, or else I'll be constantly depressed about not being good enough or sure of myself.
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