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joandreamer
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posted April 21, 2015 07:04 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for joandreamer     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
So perhaps putting Charles Manson's chart up should have been avoided Here's someone significantly different

What in her chart stands out to you?

BTW: Would anyone like this to be a reoccurring thing-- analyzing celebrity birth charts?

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posted April 21, 2015 07:06 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for joandreamer     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Venus conjunct Midheaven instantly stands out!
People with this placement have a desire to be loved by the world, and in turn, it's exactly what they get.

So fitting for Ms. Monroe
It's hard to find someone who wasn't captivated by her back in those days!

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posted April 21, 2015 07:21 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ami Anne     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Chiron conj Venus--pain with love.

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posted April 21, 2015 07:33 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for joandreamer     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Ah, that is a tough one, Ami! Makes me sad for her.

Neptune conjunct Ascendant. She was very sensitive...
I'm wondering if this placement could indicate her being an empath?

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posted April 21, 2015 07:39 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Nine     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
So it's Neptune who rules intense glamor.

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posted April 21, 2015 07:39 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ami Anne     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
R of the 5th sq Saturn--- problems having children, perhaps. Would that fit for all the people who are good in medical astrology?

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posted April 21, 2015 07:40 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ami Anne     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
R of the 5th sq Ruler of the 6th. That may point to problems with pregnancies, which were a real source of pain for her.

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posted April 21, 2015 07:42 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for joandreamer     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
There are a lot of conspiracy theories surrounding her death, can one be able to see the true way she passed based on her natal?

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posted April 21, 2015 07:59 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ami Anne     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by joandreamer:
There are a lot of conspiracy theories surrounding her death, can one be able to see the true way she passed based on her natal?

Transits on the day of death would show it, I think.

With Joan Rivers, I was shocked to see signs of foul play in the chart.

She was one of my role models.

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posted April 21, 2015 08:02 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for polkadotstars     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by joandreamer:
Venus conjunct Midheaven instantly stands out!
People with this placement have a desire to be loved by the world, and in turn, it's exactly what they get.

So fitting for Ms. Monroe
It's hard to find someone who wasn't captivated by her back in those days!


Would it really be that noticible if there is a 7 orb though?

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posted April 21, 2015 08:23 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for joandreamer     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Here are the transits for the day Marilyn Monroe died.

Here is the synastry chart from her birthday and day of death if this has any specific significance...

It's interesting that the day she died, Sun was in Leo. Marilyn's death did get a lot of attention.... even years later!!!

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posted April 21, 2015 08:39 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ami Anne     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I don't understand what you did with the charts, my Friend. Her natal chart does not show up the same in the other charts. Did I miss something lol

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posted April 21, 2015 08:49 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ami Anne     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
On the synastry, how did her natal planets change houses lol

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posted April 21, 2015 08:50 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Peluches     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Ami Anne:
I don't understand what you did with the charts, my Friend. Her natal chart does not show up the same in the other charts. Did I miss something lol


First chart is her natal, second is her death chart with today's transits (?), and third is the synastry between her natal and the death chart. If not mistaken.

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posted April 21, 2015 08:52 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ami Anne     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
But on the synastry, her natal planets change.

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posted April 21, 2015 08:53 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for joandreamer     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Peluches is right! I have no idea how to add the transits from the day of her death though. If anyone could do it for me, that would be very much appreciated .

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posted April 21, 2015 08:53 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Peluches     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Ami Anne:
But on the synastry, her natal planets change.


Nonono, she's inside and her death chart is outside.

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posted April 21, 2015 08:55 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Peluches     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by joandreamer:
Peluches is right! I have no idea how to add the transits from the day of her death though. If anyone could do it for me, that would be very much appreciated .

Just enter the date of her death here on astro.com :

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posted April 21, 2015 09:05 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ami Anne     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
But Pluto changed from the 12th to the 11th and it is supposed to be the same natal lol

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posted April 21, 2015 09:10 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Peluches     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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But Pluto changed from the 12th to the 11th and it is supposed to be the same natal lol


Good point

joandreamer, what's her 12th house cusp ?

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posted April 21, 2015 09:13 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for CupOfDavid     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I've read much about the astrology of Marilyn Monroe, and most people attribute her beauty and allure to Neptune in the first house. It was to her benefit and detriment as people made of her what they wished.

I would love to examine more celebrity charts. I've always been interested to find out what astrological aspects, if any, create superstars.

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posted April 21, 2015 09:19 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for joandreamer     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I don't understand how her chart information changed? I didn't do anything to it?

Her 12th house is in Cancer I thought?

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posted April 21, 2015 09:21 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ami Anne     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by joandreamer:
I don't understand how her chart information changed? I didn't do anything to it?

Her 12th house is in Cancer I thought?



I was thinking I was going crazy. At least, I am vindicated

You prolly changed the time of birth a bit is my guess.

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posted April 21, 2015 09:24 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for CupOfDavid     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by joandreamer:
I don't understand how her chart information changed? I didn't do anything to it?

Her 12th house is in Cancer I thought?



It didn't change, my dear. Her Pluto sits on the 12th house cusp in both charts.

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posted April 21, 2015 09:26 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ami Anne     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Pluto is in the 12th house in the top chart and the 11th in the bottom one. It makes a difference lol

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