posted April 28, 2015 01:32 AM            

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Originally posted by Supreme cT:
I see both in her at times she gets very hyper and energetic and arent taurus risings "thick"? She deff has an aries body type but than that could also be her virgo moon/mars

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posted April 28, 2015 10:04 AM            

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Originally posted by Supreme cT:
She has a very trim sporty type of body i would think a taurus rising would be more thick but thats me just assuming a general taurus ascendant

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Lots of taurus Asc are sportive due to virgo in 5th. Taylor lautner is an example.

I don't think she's a Taurys ASC thi. Look firey.... Can be early degree taurus Asc since we don't really smile in pics

posted April 28, 2015 01:05 PM            

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Originally posted by Supreme cT:
She has a very trim sporty type of body i would think a taurus rising would be more thick but thats me just assuming a general taurus ascendant

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As you can read here ...
http://kannonmcafee.wordpress.com/rising-signs-2/#taurus ... the Taurus type is typically light-boned. Some may fill out later in a way that tends to disguise the weight.

And again, the Moon making a parallel to Jupiter accounts for the more outgoing, engaging, even fiery qualities you see in her that keep her from identifying more with one rising sign over the other.

In other words, if she really were Aries rising, she would unquestionably identify with it over Taurus.

posted April 28, 2015 02:04 PM            

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Originally posted by Kannon McAfee:
As you can read here ...
http://kannonmcafee.wordpress.com/rising-signs-2/#taurus ... the Taurus type is typically light-boned. Some may fill out later in a way that tends to disguise the weight.

And again, the Moon making a parallel to Jupiter accounts for the more outgoing, engaging, even fiery qualities you see in her that keep her from identifying more with one rising sign over the other.

In other words, if she really were Aries rising, she would unquestionably identify with it over Taurus.

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posted April 28, 2015 07:28 PM            

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Originally posted by Solar_Leo_Queen:
CT ya girlie is pretty anyhow, my first impression of her was Libra, but then I thought she looks gentle and bold at the same time, so I'm kinda conflicted about it. I do feel the venusian vibe tho.

Btw I just noticed a common feature in Aries rising people with that rising sign blog by Kannon. Seems like a lot of them have prominent foreheads.

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posted April 28, 2015 08:40 PM            

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Originally posted by aleenaxo:
I have a question!

If she has Aries rising but Venus in the first, wouldn't that make her outgoing too? And add in Taurus traits?

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In theory, yes, but with chart situations such as these where there is a significant Moon-related modifier to the personality picture, the real determining factor becomes an actual test of any given chart by way of progressions for major life events that meet standards such as these:
http://kannonmcafee.wordpress.com/chart-validation-standards/

Otherwise it becomes a highly subjective exercise of arbitrary personal preference where the conclusion is simply a convenience to meet one's level of astrological literacy ... or the process remains an intellectual juggling act where all the pins stay in the air and never fall to a conclusion.

posted April 28, 2015 08:59 PM            

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Originally posted by Solar_Leo_Queen:
CT ya girlie is pretty anyhow, my first impression of her was Libra, but then I thought she looks gentle and bold at the same time, so I'm kinda conflicted about it. I do feel the venusian vibe tho.

Btw I just noticed a common feature in Aries rising people with that rising sign blog by Kannon. Seems like a lot of them have prominent foreheads.

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2 out of 6 of the examples there would qualify as 'forehead added'. This is not a feature of Aries rising itself, but of planets (most often Saturn, Jupiter, Mercury) and other factors (Virgo, Gemini, Sag). Qualifier 1 = David Souter, higher/larger forehead comes from Sun-Merc-Venus-Neptune in Virgo. Qualifier 2 = MLK, I have narrowed it down to 2 possible charts with Aries rising, and have not completed the validation. One of those possible charts has Jupiter square the Asc which could account for the long face/high forehead.

Some of this, of course, is genetics. It is not completely astrological.

For the young lady in question here, it is the Moon's parallel with Jupiter in Virgo that I believe can account for her higher the average hairline. However, Asc in Aries square Mercury could create that.

posted April 28, 2015 10:17 PM            

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Originally posted by Kannon McAfee:
In theory, yes, but with chart situations such as these where there is a significant Moon-related modifier to the personality picture, the real determining factor becomes an actual test of any given chart by way of progressions for major life events that meet standards such as these:
http://kannonmcafee.wordpress.com/chart-validation-standards/

Otherwise it becomes a highly subjective exercise of arbitrary personal preference where the conclusion is simply a convenience to meet one's level of astrological literacy ... or the process remains an intellectual juggling act where all the pins stay in the air and never fall to a conclusion.

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Okay so that makes sense. The moon must be more prominent in her chart, and the parallel to Jupiter is what you're saying makes her outgoing correct?

I'm not an expert in astrology but couldn't it be many factors that play a part for her to be outgoing?

Like say her Venus in the first (either rising sign with a degree that works), her sun in the third, and her moon parallel Jupiter all play a part in her being outgoing?

posted April 30, 2015 04:46 PM            

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Originally posted by aleenaxo:
Okay so that makes sense. The moon must be more prominent in her chart, and the parallel to Jupiter is what you're saying makes her outgoing correct?

I'm not an expert in astrology but couldn't it be many factors that play a part for her to be outgoing?

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In general for astrology this is true, a number of factors can correlate to being more outgoing than is typical for the rising sign. However, there must be enough weight/strength of those factors to override such a tendency for introversion.

In looking her chart I first looked for significant angular aspects or clusters of planets in signs that could account for this. There were no such factors. In fact, there is an abundance of planets in earth/water signs. Then, in looking at the declination positions I saw it is only the Moon parallel Jupiter that can undoubtedly account for this.

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Like say her Venus in the first (either rising sign with a degree that works), her sun in the third, and her moon parallel Jupiter all play a part in her being outgoing?

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Again, its about weight and strength of factors. With Moon parallel Jupiter added to a possible Aries rising, the fire from that would have her identifying easily with Aries, in my opinion. That is part of why I think she is probably Taurus rising where Venus is parallel Asc.

Venus herself can help, but does not make a major change from the typical level of introversion to extroversion. She helps to the degree she confers a sense of one's own attractiveness.

Rectification is the art of differentials that essentially make decisions from a center-point of what is estimated to be the norm for all other chart factors for that individual. So my assessment with Moon-Jupiter in the context of Taurus vs Aries rising is an example of how I do that differential 'diagnosis.'

posted April 30, 2015 08:43 PM            

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Originally posted by Supreme cT:
Hey LL i think we found her ascendant what i did was adjust her birth time by 30mins and that put her asc at 26degress aries and put her moon in her 6th house and she strongly identifies with moon in 6th over moon in 5th thanks for the help everybody

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posted May 01, 2015 07:15 AM            

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Originally posted by Supreme cT:
Hey LL i think we found her ascendant what i did was adjust her birth time by 30mins and that put her asc at 26degress aries and put her moon in her 6th house and she strongly identifies with moon in 6th over moon in 5th thanks for the help everybody

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Test the Asc against transits.She should have had quite a hectic March/April month if her Asc is accurate.

I feel like the Asc sign has more to do with themes in one's life. And doesn't always translate to physical looks- especially when a chart enjoys many conjunctions in another sign.