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confusedaseff
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posted April 27, 2015 03:11 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for confusedaseff     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
so i know a set of triplets and they are completely different from each other.

one is extremely introverted, likes to stay home, the bookworm. kind, soft spoken. very cancer and virgo energy.keeps her self makeup free, jeans and oversized t shirt kinda gal. the most introverted and sweetest. the bookworm. i think she's trying to get into medicine. straight long hair that she just leaves as is. lightest hair colour of the 3

second is miss popular. lots of friends, gets on with a lot of people. smart, sharp, good in business, has a rockabilly and tattooed appearance with cat eye classes. sassy. very modern .kinda hipster. the most earthy saturn of out the three. wild curly ringlets. medium hair colour.

3rd is very venusian although her aries is definitely appearant. out of all 3 she's a classically beautiful one. think girl with the pearl earrings. very libra in how she dresses, carries herself. love parisian things and how they dress. romantic. pearl necklaces and red lipstick. the most emotional one i think of all 3 and can be quite erratic with moods and also the most gung ho about jumping into adventures. i think she's going for a career in music . alot of air and fire energy with this one but again very emotionally driven and instant gratification. tallest of the 3 the other two are the same height. wavy dark brown hair. looks like the youtube astrologer alyssa sharpe. seriously. almost twins

so they're all completely different and the look so so different from each other you wouldn't think they'd be related let along siblings. but their natal charts are the same? even same rising

so i'm wondering what might be accounting for these differences between the three in looks, sun, moon. etc because i defiantly thought they'd be more similar. but even wants, needs, desires are completely different.

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ilunatique
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posted April 27, 2015 03:16 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for ilunatique     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Look at the names. Names are as unique as the personality. Every name has a complex print. Doing a little bit of numerology would get you different answers.

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posted April 27, 2015 03:25 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ami Anne     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Fascinating!! Would love to hear opinions on this. Thanks for posting it!

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posted April 27, 2015 03:33 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Peluches     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by ilunatique:
Look at the names. Names are as unique as the personality. Every name has a complex print. Doing a little bit of numerology would get you different answers.

Degrees in astrology matter a lot, too. Duads, harmonic charts, sabian symbols, house and vertex charts, etc. 10 minutes, as short as that may sound, is too big a difference to have exact same degrees in all placements.

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posted April 27, 2015 03:35 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for astra7     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
How different their ascendant? If it's within 10 mins, not much....only a degree or two difference. How interesting, a challenge for astrologers.

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posted April 27, 2015 03:45 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for confusedaseff     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
born by c section so literally one after the other

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posted April 27, 2015 03:47 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for YellowGerbera     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I know a set of Triplets exactly like this myself They are paternal triplets too so they totally look different from each other!

My frd did challenge me to explain why his bros are so different from each other using astorlogy... but I have no idea why!! Haha

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posted April 27, 2015 04:12 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Peluches     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Actually, I'm talking minutes here. When using duad charts, for instance :

001' in the natal = 012' in the duad chart
005' only in the natal = 100' in the duad chart

And that's only the duad chart, which is basically a variant of the traditional 12th harmonic chart, calculated by dividing each sign into 12 little parts. There's no limit to harmonic charts -- in fact, there even was a study showing that a hard aspect of MERCURY to MARS, SARURN, URANUS, or NEPTUNE in the 125th harmonic chart indicated blindness or eye problems close to blindness.

So, the 125th harmonic is basically dividing the chart into 125 parts and assembling them again to form the new chart. Imagine how precise that is ! I wouldn't be surprised if triplets born within 10 minutes had different harmonic charts, to be honest.

Just my two cents.

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posted April 27, 2015 04:28 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for confusedaseff     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Peluches:
Actually, I'm talking [b]minutes here. When using duad charts, for instance :

001' in the natal = 012' in the duad chart
005' only in the natal = 100' in the duad chart

And that's only the duad chart, which is basically a variant of the traditional 12th harmonic chart, calculated by dividing each sign into 12 little parts. There's no limit to harmonic charts -- in fact, there even was a study showing that a hard aspect of MERCURY to MARS, SARURN, URANUS, or NEPTUNE in the 125th harmonic chart indicated blindness or eye problems close to blindness.

So, the 125th harmonic is basically dividing the chart into 125 parts and assembling them again to form the new chart. Imagine how precise that is ! I wouldn't be surprised if triplets born within 10 minutes had different harmonic charts, to be honest.

Just my two cents. [/B]


where can i find these? id definitely be interested in seeing how mine is different.

i would look it up for my mates but problem is that the nurse just took down a whole number cause apparently they like to keep it ex. 7pm or 7:15 or 7:30 etc (mine nurse was exact as hell though lol. so unfortunately they've only got the hour.

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posted April 27, 2015 04:34 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for confusedaseff     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Peluches:
Actually, I'm talking [b]minutes here. When using duad charts, for instance :

001' in the natal = 012' in the duad chart
005' only in the natal = 100' in the duad chart

And that's only the duad chart, which is basically a variant of the traditional 12th harmonic chart, calculated by dividing each sign into 12 little parts. There's no limit to harmonic charts -- in fact, there even was a study showing that a hard aspect of MERCURY to MARS, SARURN, URANUS, or NEPTUNE in the 125th harmonic chart indicated blindness or eye problems close to blindness.

So, the 125th harmonic is basically dividing the chart into 125 parts and assembling them again to form the new chart. Imagine how precise that is ! I wouldn't be surprised if triplets born within 10 minutes had different harmonic charts, to be honest.

Just my two cents. [/B]


holy **** i'm completely different! no more capricorn stellium a sun gemini, moon sag, merc cap, venus gemini, mars aries ... oddly enough i feel like this chart is who i was when i was in primary school? lol

how does this fit in with my normal chart though?!

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posted April 27, 2015 04:43 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for aleenaxo     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by ilunatique:
Look at the names. Names are as unique as the personality. Every name has a complex print. Doing a little bit of numerology would get you different answers.

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posted April 27, 2015 04:51 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for PixieJane     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I saw a documentary on a pair of conjoined twins and even the two heads were different! They share the exact same body, natal chart, environment, everything, and yet they're different. For example, one wanted to move far away while the other head/person wanted to stay home. One is better at math and the other at writing. They prefer different clothing styles. One could like a boy while another didn't (how they're going to work that out is going to be interesting...).

It doesn't just throw a "WTF" at astrology but at EVERY school of thought (genetics, environment, etc). But then people often argue internally all the time anyway so it shouldn't be a surprise that two different heads on the same body would as well.

Though as each head is a distinct personality they both had their own names...I forget what they were. Oh, here they are (I saw the documentary on the Learning Channel, IIRC):
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Abigail_and_Brittany_Hensel

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posted April 27, 2015 05:19 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for aleenaxo     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Another thing to think about is even though they have the same transits, the way in which it plays out in their lives will be different, moulding them differently. They could also be expressing the energies in their charts differently, like one might be expressing their moon qualities really positively and the other one doesn't, but expresses their sun quality better than the other.

If you were to take triplets but have them grown up in the same city, but in different households and different communities, you can't guarantee that the transits moulded the triplets in the same way. If Saturn was making a conjunction to their sun, one could take on more responsibilities, one could feel limited in expression, one could become more mature, or they could have a combination of changes going on to themselves.

I hope you understand what I mean!

Imagine your son being born, but in a room across from you another family had a child at the exact same time. You will live in the same area so houses don't change depending on the house system you use, both babies will grow up with transits showing up in their lives differently, moulding them differently. They are still essentially natal chart twins. You won't know for sure if they act the same because you don't know what life experiences the transits brought them.

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posted April 27, 2015 07:19 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Kannon McAfee     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
confusedaseff:

The rising signs are almost certainly not the same. There are clearly at least two rising signs represented here, based on introversion/extroversion.

I have a client who is a twin with a birth timed very close, supposedly both Scorpio rising. One is a fair redhead, freckled, and the leader who cooks up the plans and is the life of the party. Libra rising with Asc square Sun (Cap). Her sister looks nothing like her. Instead, she is dusky in complexion and has dark hair and stays more in the background. She is the Scorpio rising.

Obviously, planetary aspects can come into play.

These twins situations are the absolute best testimony for what I have drawn from the work of John Willner and from the Cayce readings, specifically that the exact time of physical birth is not synonymous with the correct Asc. This practice of setting the chart by recorded time of physical birth was referred to by Cayce as 'astrological survey' and was considered less accurate. He did not give instructions on how to arrive at correct Ascendants, even instructing some to use the time of their physical birth for a more accurate chart, because they did not have the knowledge to execute a rectification.

There is about a 5-hour window around the final delivery of the baby in which a soul can incarnate into that baby's body. The exact moment of this decision -- the commitment of a soul's (etheric) silver-blue cord to the baby's body is the exact moment that times the birth chart. So many charts have to be adjusted. We're interdimensional beings jumping from one dimension to another in the birth process of becoming human. You can't do that just any ole time you please. There is order to the universe and that means doorways that open and close. Sometimes many are clustered together, but other periods of time only allow just one possible Asc even though it may be hours in clock time from the moment of physical delivery.

*Because astrology and the birth of a soul into this world is an interdimensional event, not all the criteria and measurements can be taken as 'truth' from our point of view here in the material end of things.

We must stop taking charts determined by recorded birth times as some literal God's gospel truth. The one and only correct chart for each person may or may not be easily determined through conventional rectification procedures by just any astrologer, but it can be done.


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