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Robin Goodfellow
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posted May 08, 2015 08:58 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Robin Goodfellow     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Hi I would like to understand the different ways in which the water moons express themselves psychically and intuitively. What are the similarities and differences?

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Depends. I've known plenty of Pisces and Scorpio moons and they generally range from these extremes:

Pisces will, if accurate, reflect (even if they don't mean to and may in fact hate getting sucked into that whirlpool) so if they're in a room full of calm, meditative people then they'll be inclined to be serene, but in a room of violent people and they'll show a side that many who study astrology would be surprised by as they, too, can become violent. This assumes "what you see is what you get" because Pisces can sense the deep waters below the surface (which is the kryptonite for all too many of them, they can actually drown in the silent pain of others that as individuals can handle that pain they carry inside, but it all leaves another burden for the Pisces moon to deal with).

The other extreme of Pisces is invent a dream world and try to fit people into their proper roles (and the self as well), and though they may make the best choice to be had on who goes where they won't accept that the person doesn't fully fit into the slot they're trying to fill. The good side is that, unlike Scorpio moon, this isn't likely to be a paranoid delusion...but it will be delusional and potentially just as self-destructive.

As for Scorpio...unlike Pisces they tend to not be overwhelmed...or perhaps it's more accurate to say it won't show as much. Unlike Pisces they're much more likely to hold onto their perceptions and feelings, good or bad, rather than go with the flow like Pisces. They're more likely to manipulate than be manipulated as a Pisces would be (though they're not immune to being tricked or manipulated, especially those who manage to figure out their personal flaws which might be why Scorpio takes such pains to hide them from the world, though anyone who succeeds at manipulating a Scorpio, sun or moon, who then gets busted by that Scorpio will have made an enemy for life whereas Pisces would just swim away). Scorpio, when evolved, can be very compassionate for the suffering of others, however, and though probably less sympathetic than a Pisces will be much more capable of doing something about it than Pisces can.

But like Pisces their intuition can lead them into a world of delusion and it's often a lot more paranoid and/or unpleasant than Pisces.

Scorpio is a fixed sign, Pisces a mutable.

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posted May 14, 2015 09:22 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Robin Goodfellow     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
More opinions on the differences of these moons would be nice> and if you notice similarities that would be great as well. Is being intuitive mostly associated with the water signs?

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posted May 15, 2015 04:23 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for popcorn     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Robin Goodfellow:
More opinions on the differences of these moons would be nice> and if you notice similarities that would be great as well. Is being intuitive mostly associated with the water signs?

IT seems to me be more correct that moons in water sign associated mostly to emotions and intuitive associated to air sign...

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posted May 15, 2015 08:11 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for the89freespirit     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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IT seems to me be more correct that moons in water sign associated mostly to emotions and intuitive associated to air sign...

I would consider Air Moons the least intuitive. It's quite contradictory for them because their intellect can get in the way and intuition isn't intellect. They're very good, though, at knowing when things don't follow a line of logic. "This doesn't add up." However, Aquarius Moon often has excellent intuition. Everyone has intuition, though, and it's represented by your Moon. It's all a matter of how it manifests and is expressed.

But, Water Moon intuition runs really deep. It's to the point where we have no idea that we're being intuitive. It's a mysterious, powerful thing and can make us seem pretty crazy. This is why we might, ironically, have the hardest time trusting our gut because we're used to feeling/appearing so irrational when we do! I'd say that we have to learn how to embrace feeling kind of loony, though, because that's when we're most intuitive. We need to be able to go off the rails just a little bit.

The way I always look at it is Cancer Moon's intuition is very nurturing. They instantly know what's wrong with you and how to make it better. Scorpio Moon's intuition is very perceptive. We can automatically see through people and things and into the deeper motives. Pisces Moon's intuition is very psychic. Just being able to pick up different thoughts and emotions floating through the air and feeling them as if they are their own.

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posted May 15, 2015 08:49 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for hannaramaa     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Pisces Moon can anticipate what you need before you do,

Scorpio moon will be able to tell you who's good or bad for you, can tell you someone's intentions at their core

I think Cancer has the most "normal" intuition in that they can sense when something is off (like walk into a room with a couple who is playing nice, but Cancer can sense the tension. A Pisces and Scorpio would be able to as well but resolving it wouldn't be their biggest concern.)

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posted May 15, 2015 01:58 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Robin Goodfellow     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by hannaramaa:
Pisces Moon can anticipate what you need before you do,

Scorpio moon will be able to tell you who's good or bad for you, can tell you someone's intentions at their core

I think Cancer has the most "normal" intuition in that they can sense when something is off (like walk into a room with a couple who is playing nice, but Cancer can sense the tension. A Pisces and Scorpio would be able to as well but resolving it wouldn't be their biggest concern.)


Hi! I am a Cancer moon >would like to know how the cardinality of this sign plays out. Is this a very active moon sign? Moon is happiest in Cancer?

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posted May 15, 2015 03:16 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for hannaramaa     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Well..yeah Moon is happiest in Cancer. It rules Cancer. If I had to guess the cardinality plays out in that they'll perhaps act on or bring up their feelings, whereas mutable signs like Pisces or fixed signs like Scorpio, won't.

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posted May 15, 2015 09:30 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for NYCdodger     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by the89freespirit:
I would consider Air Moons the least intuitive. It's quite contradictory for them because their intellect can get in the way and intuition isn't intellect. They're very good, though, at knowing when things don't follow a line of logic. "This doesn't add up." However, Aquarius Moon often has excellent intuition. Everyone has intuition, though, and it's represented by your Moon. It's all a matter of how it manifests and is expressed.

But, Water Moon intuition runs really deep. It's to the point where we have no idea that we're being intuitive. It's a mysterious, powerful thing and can make us seem pretty crazy. This is why we might, ironically, have the hardest time trusting our gut because we're used to feeling/appearing so irrational when we do! I'd say that we have to learn how to embrace feeling kind of loony, though, because that's when we're most intuitive. We need to be able to go off the rails just a little bit.

The way I always look at it is Cancer Moon's intuition is very nurturing. They instantly know what's wrong with you and how to make it better. Scorpio Moon's intuition is very perceptive. We can automatically see through people and things and into the deeper motives. Pisces Moon's intuition is very psychic. Just being able to pick up different thoughts and emotions floating through the air and feeling them as if they are their own.

Hope that makes sense.


Highly disagree with the air remark. My moon is in Libra and my ASC is in Aquarius. I pick up more emotions and detail than most people. Even my "water moon" friends can't pick up and perceive what I perceive. The same rings true for other air moons i know. My best friend has his moon in Gemini and he is the ONLY person I know that is on my level of insight when it comes to the human psychology and awareness. I know many other Libra moons with this gift. Not to brag and boast but when it comes to understanding things on a broad perspective, air moons see things many other miss. Someone once told me that whenever they have an emotional problem, they go to an air moon.

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posted May 15, 2015 10:30 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Eirlys     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by NYCdodger:
Highly disagree with the air remark. My moon is in Libra and my ASC is in Aquarius. I pick up more emotions and detail than most people....

... my level of insight when it comes to the human psychology and awareness. I know many other Libra moons with this gift. Not to brag and boast but when it comes to understanding things on a broad perspective, air moons see things many other miss. Someone once told me that whenever they have an emotional problem, they go to an air moon.



There is more than one kind of intuition,

I believe.


Human psychology and awareness, in this sense,

is based on observable behavior, correct?



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posted May 16, 2015 12:16 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for NYCdodger     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Eirlys:

There is more than one kind of intuition,

I believe.


Human psychology and awareness, in this sense,

is based on observable behavior, correct?




And the ability to connect with others on a personal level. Air is the element of interaction and connection. Take that, and infuse it with the qualities of the moon.

Fire is the element of productivity and self-awareness/well-being

Earth is the element of resources and security

Water is the element of intimacy and safety

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posted May 16, 2015 12:22 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for hannaramaa     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Water moons have more of an advantage at instantly / naturally describing and empathizing what another feels. An air moon can look at someone who's about to cry but they will react to it with their mind, not their heart, which is water moons. It's because of this it's possible they're more intuitive than water moons, because you have to have a level of unbias and objectivity to be the eerie kind of intuitive that knows or predicts things about people.

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posted May 16, 2015 12:24 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Eirlys     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by NYCdodger:
And the ability to connect with others on a personal level.

Via shared information and experiences, and

thus, identification?


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posted May 16, 2015 12:32 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for NYCdodger     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by hannaramaa:
Water moons have more of an advantage at instantly / naturally describing and empathizing what another feels. An air moon can look at someone who's about to cry but they will react to it with their mind, not their heart, which is water moons. It's because of this it's possible they're more intuitive than water moons, because you have to have a level of unbias and objectivity to be the eerie kind of intuitive that knows or predicts things about people.

And as an air moon Im telling you I highly disagree lol. And I know many other air moons that will agree with me and know how i feel. I have a friend who's moon is in cancer (and i know others), and in no way shape or form can he understand emotions as much as i do. In fact, he doesn't even know how to deal with them. As a libra moon, i can balance, and understand emotions on many levels and empathize with anyone who approaches me. If I see someone is crying, I know how to tactfully see what is going on and make things better. I've done it plenty of times and my best friend who's moon is in Gemini can do the same. This kid in his school was considered a misfit and an outcast. Everyone shunned him but my friend with moon in Gemini befriended him and helped him open up more to others. It takes emotional intelligence to do something like that. I have another friend who's moon is in scorpio and he is as black/white as can be. Regardless of feelings, he wouldn't even give you a chance even when he knows he's wrong. Whoever said people with moon in air are the "least intuitive" needs to interact with more of them and not go by the books alone. I'm speaking from real personal experience. When it came to understanding things on the spot and picking up signals, I have never seen an air moon not notice them on an instant. Sometimes I can even tell who has an air moon and who doesn't.

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posted May 16, 2015 12:33 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for NYCdodger     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Eirlys:
Via shared information and experiences, and

thus, identification?



You're trying to debunk what I'm saying by over analyzing my words. Stop it. My comment was for whoever said that air moons are the "least intuitive".

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posted May 16, 2015 12:41 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for hannaramaa     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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And as an air moon Im telling you I highly disagree lol..

Disagree with what because essentially I was agreeing with you that air moons are more intuitive.

Your outcast example, okay? A water moon will definitely feel the loneliness and embarrassment of the outcast, but they're not going to do anything about it because they don't want to continue feeling those vibes. An air moon (just the moon by itself, no aspects, no "but it's Neptune!") can get past that because they process things in a less attached way. They SEE clearer.

If you still disagree then we'll just leave it at that.

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posted May 16, 2015 12:48 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for NYCdodger     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Disagree with what because essentially I was agreeing with you that air moons are more intuitive.

Your outcast example, okay? A water moon will definitely feel the loneliness and embarrassment of the outcast, but they're not going to do anything about it because they don't want to continue feeling those vibes. An air moon (just the moon by itself, no aspects, no "but it's Neptune!") can get past that because they process things in a less attached way. They SEE clearer.

If you still disagree then we'll just leave it at that.


I disagreed with your statement "air moons only see through the mind and water through the heart". I read the rest of your statement, but i don't know how to quote exact phrases. I'm not saying water moons are "less" intuitive than air. My intentions were clearly proving that they are not the "least intuitive" sign lol. Whoever said that i was directing it to

No moon is "least" intuitive. But way too many people are quick to say things off of the books rather than experience. As an air moon myself, and along with MANY other air moons i know there is NO way you can say we feel things a certain way and we are the least intuitive. Not in my book. Information isn't just about objectivity. They are clues and hunches that air moons pick up and can see as well as understand. Thats all I'm saying

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posted May 16, 2015 01:03 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for arcturiann     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
You guys are arguing about air vs water moons but seem to have left houses out of the picture. I've met fire and earth moons with 12th or 8th house placements that were far more intuitive than any water or air moon I know. I know a pisces moon and a scorpio moon with their moons in the 1st house and they are both too impatient and self absorbed with their emotional behavior to really be outwardly "intuitive" in any sense at all.

I think house placements are constantly overlooked here and half of the threads I read I keep wanting to comment "but what HOUSES were his/her planet in??"

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posted May 16, 2015 01:28 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for NYCdodger     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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You guys are arguing about air vs water moons but seem to have left houses out of the picture. I've met fire and earth moons with 12th or 8th house placements that were far more intuitive than any water or air moon I know. I know a pisces moon and a scorpio moon with their moons in the 1st house and they are both too impatient and self absorbed with their emotional behavior to really be outwardly "intuitive" in any sense at all.

I think house placements are constantly overlooked here and half of the threads I read I keep wanting to comment "but what HOUSES were his/her planet in??"


No arguments on my side, and i highly agree. But I wasn't trying to bring up the point of houses. My only point was trying to stop this whole "if you're air you don't know how to feel" and "if you're water you feel everything better than everyone else" assumptions people are so quick to take on. But yes, houses are the foundations of the chart. To me, houses are more important than planets. We all embody the 12 signs in different ways

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posted May 16, 2015 01:36 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Eirlys     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Originally posted by arcturiann:
You guys are arguing about air vs water moons but seem to have left houses out of the picture. I've met fire and earth moons with 12th or 8th house placements that were far more intuitive than any water or air moon I know. I know a pisces moon and a scorpio moon with their moons in the 1st house and they are both too impatient and self absorbed with their emotional behavior to really be outwardly "intuitive" in any sense at all.

I think house placements are constantly overlooked here and half of the threads I read I keep wanting to comment "but what HOUSES were his/her planet in??"


Good point-- it would still come back to Water.


Originally posted by NYCdodger:
You're trying to debunk what I'm saying by over analyzing my words. Stop it. My comment was for whoever said that air moons are the "least intuitive".

There's no debunking what has no merit to begin with.


My point was that there are different ways to come to

a conclusion with zero evidence, and a gut feeling.

That's intuition.


You're trying to turn it into a contest (lol) by saying

you're the best and water moons are weak.


So sensitive.


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TO NYCdodger,

I did not mean to offend or anything, so don't take what I said personally. I do think that everyone has their own form of intuition, depending on the Element their Moon is in as well as the House it's in.

However, Air Moon intuition is just very different. You probably feel like you see things so clearly because you're able to be so logical. Your intuition is linked up with your MIND; your left-brain. So, you can probably see and understand feelings so clearly because you can analyze them. You can see, "This person is feeling this way because of this." Air Moons are quite good at that: coming up with great explanations for their feelings and other people's feelings. This is how your intuition, generally, operates: by being logical. That's why it's so clear to you.

But, for a Water Moon, I would still say they're the most intuitive probably because most of us can't verbalize and articulate these insights so clearly. THAT'S intuition. Not knowing "why" something is the way it is. You just know it. It's different from logic, which basically adds everything up in a way that's easy to understand. That's why I said that Water Moons can feel kind of crazy when they're being intuitive because it usually makes no sense or we're usually very oblivious to our intuitive moments. But, we get those hits and follow them. Intuition is not knowing while Air Moons, generally, feel much more comfortable having all the answers.

Aspects count, as well. With Mercury sextile my Moon, I think I'm definitely much more able to articulate my insights and deal with feelings with a healthy dose of logic than other Scorpio Moons.

Your intuition comes from your GUT not from your mind. It's not rational. That's why I said that Air Moons are the least intuitive. A bit of a sweeping statement, I realize, and I didn't mean for it to come off that way. But, I just meant that having an Air Moon is a contradiction.

On the plus side, that more logical type of response (your first reaction being to make rational sense of something) is why you can deal with others' emotions so well. Air Moons are very good at talking people through their emotional problems. You're right about that. But, again, it's more of a surface level. They just want to identify and label the emotion and come up with a solution. I think that's quite different than how Water Moons operate. And to say that Water Moons aren't as perceptive would be, generally speaking, quite off, in my opinion. Your friends just don't have the gift of being able to verbalize, rationalize, and figure out a solution to feelings that you have.

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Also, if you think I was saying Air Moons have less feelings or something, you're wrong. I NEVER think that and hate when people talk like that.

I'm not saying Air Moons are cold robots. We all have feelings, of course. But, the element our Moon is represents how we DEAL with our feelings. And you can't deny that Air Moons deal with their feelings with logic.

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I think there are definitely different types of "intuition", and I think the concept of intuition, psychic, and empath are often confused.

Intuition in general is what we know or understand already without having to consciously think about it, and therefore every sign has something they are likely naturally intuitive about.

For example, an intuitive aquarius moon might have insights on trends more easily than other signs. I imagine a virgo moon could have an intuitive understanding of the mechanics behind the use of objects and machines. And a leo moon intuitively knows how to lead.
Libra moons intuitively understand other people because that is the libra nature to be curious about others and to understand them. This can easily be seen as empathy, but whether or not the libra actually feels the emotions themselves rather than just knowing them would depend on other placements I'd imagine.

Empathy on the other hand is different, in that a lot of empathic people don't even know that they are feeling other peoples feelings (and thus can be intuitively empathic), and tend to think that they are their own feelings. I think this is more common in pisces and cancer moons, I think scorpio moons have the ability to be empathic more to their own control than the other two.

Psychic phenomenon relates to more supernatural and unexplained phenomenon as a whole, which is also a big umbrella term that encompasses abilities like clairvoyance, precognition, empathy, telepathy, mediumship, etc. This phenomenon goes beyond moon or sun signs and would involve aspects and house placements as well. Although if I had to pick a psychic ability for each of the water archetypes for fun, i'd give empathy/telepathy to cancer, clairvoyance to pisces, and aura sensing to scorpio.

Also don't forget synastry. Two people with the right synastry can experience things like telepathy that they don't normally experience in general.

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posted May 17, 2015 02:10 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for NYCdodger     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Eirlys:
Originally posted by arcturiann:
[b]You guys are arguing about air vs water moons but seem to have left houses out of the picture. I've met fire and earth moons with 12th or 8th house placements that were far more intuitive than any water or air moon I know. I know a pisces moon and a scorpio moon with their moons in the 1st house and they are both too impatient and self absorbed with their emotional behavior to really be outwardly "intuitive" in any sense at all.

I think house placements are constantly overlooked here and half of the threads I read I keep wanting to comment "but what HOUSES were his/her planet in??"


Good point-- it would still come back to Water.


Originally posted by NYCdodger:
You're trying to debunk what I'm saying by over analyzing my words. Stop it. My comment was for whoever said that air moons are the "least intuitive".

There's no debunking what has no merit to begin with.


My point was that there are different ways to come to

a conclusion with zero evidence, and a gut feeling.

That's intuition.


You're trying to turn it into a contest (lol) by saying

you're the best and water moons are weak.


So sensitive.


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Theres no contest I'm trying to make. I made it obvious what my intentions were and who the comment was towards. When did I say water moons were weak? Thats how you end up making assumptions by over analyzing things.

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posted May 17, 2015 02:27 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for NYCdodger     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I don't think some of you guys are fully understanding the intentions of my post. Im not turning this into a competition, just simply trying to open you guys up. As an air moon I have had stronger intuitive/psychic insights on life, people, and situations than many other water moons I know. Im also more empathic than many water moons I know. Does that mean we are superior? No. But it does mean that there is a flip side to the claims being made. Thats all I was trying say lol

Plus all i am saying is that we are all equally intuitive. The claim "air moons are the least intuitive" would never make sense to someone who can clearly see and say that isn't true according to real life experiences.

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