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selenafae96
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posted May 09, 2015 09:40 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for selenafae96     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
*rant* I hate being a pisces moon with air moon sisters. My older sister is an aqua moon and my younger sister is a gemini moon. They get along great! They're both very popular, are always having fun, and are always just having laughs with each other! I'm not like them though. I'm shy/introverted, and a pessimist at times. They always cut me down and I'm probably the most sensitive person you could meet. They say I'm always having 'pity parties' or trying to get 'attention' when I'm only telling the truth. I guess I just get upset easily and they basically have no emotions. I don't want to hate air moons, so can you please give me some insight from their perspective? I can't tell them anything because they always think I'm trying to get attention. I might as well just pretend like life is a party whenever I'm around them! :/

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posted May 09, 2015 10:21 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for yellowelevator     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Hiya! Sorry to hear they aren't the easiest bunch to get along with. When you have siblings, there's definitely going to be times when you really love them and other times when you're about ready to rip your hair out. I myself have an older brother and sister; I'm the youngest. I also happen to be a Gemini Moon.

Hmmm. Us Air Moons, like all other signs, have our positive and negative attributes. I've never dealt or been friends with an Aqua Moon (at least none that I know of off hand but I do know some people with other Aqua placements), so I'm not sure it's my place to examine their behavior. But as a Gem Moon, I can vouch for having a 'silver tongue' at times, aka being sarcastic and very light-hearted. I do love joking around. But I never truly intend to be rude or offend people; it has never been my intention to do so. In fact, I'm always usually very careful of treading lightly when it comes to people's feelings. It can sometimes seem like Air Moons have no emotion, but trust me, like all other signs, we do. We just have different ways of expressing them, and we often intellectualize them, whether we are conscious of it or not.

As a Gem Moon, I without a doubt do 'feel', and indeed have very strong emotions. Though a lot of time, unless I am comfortable and really know you, hide them because I am very sensitive myself and am sometimes afraid of my vulnerability. My Gem Moon is actually in the 12th house, so I think this is why. I have no personal Pisces placements (except MC), but am highly Neptunian and have always generally gotten along well with Pisces people. I'm shy and introverted myself, probably partially because of this.

Pisces is a Water sign, so they feel deeply and are extra sensitive, so it's of no real surprise that you deal with these things. Since your sisters are both Air Moons, Aqua and Gemini are trine each other so it's understandable they seem to get along so well, whereas Pisces is square to Gemini.

Again, sorry you're having a hard time getting along with them. I hope you'll be able to find a way to combat it one day though, and find a middle-ground between them.

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posted May 10, 2015 01:07 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Aries23Degrees     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Well said yellowelevator

Its conceivable to expect some differences even with people that you get on with.

So I can imagine the stress that must be felt with regards to trying to relate to people that you have no common base with.

I wonder if you guys share any other common placements? What is your Asc?

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posted May 10, 2015 01:22 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for selenafae96     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Wow, thanks yellowelevator! Yeah, I wish I could. The only time they actually talk to me nicely is when I'm being really funny/optimistic or when I'm talking about fashion/guys, etc. Of course, I don't really have any friends to talk to about personal problems, but if I bring something up to them.. it just doesn't end well. We argue a lot (especially me and my gemini moon sister).
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Me: virgo sun, pisces moon, scorpio mars, sag rising
Older sister: scorpio sun, aqua moon, sag mars, libra rising
Younger sister: taurus sun, gemini moon, gemini mars, aries rising

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posted May 10, 2015 01:41 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Aries23Degrees     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Would you mind also giving the degrees of each placement?

The reason I ask this is because I see a lot of square/opposition interaction between you three. But I can't be sure if its only by sign placement.

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posted May 10, 2015 11:24 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for selenafae96     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Myself:
Sun: Virgo 5.12 degrees
Moon: Pisces 29.53 degrees
Mercury: Leo 24.48 degrees
Venus: Leo 22.08 degrees
Mars: Scorpio 27.00 degrees
Rising: Sagittarius 24.23 degrees

Older sister:
Sun: Scorpio 15.07 degrees
Moon: Aquarius 9.56 degrees
Mercury: Scorpio 29.40 degrees
Venus: Capricorn 2.09 degrees
Mars: Sagittarius 28.43 degrees
Rising: Libra 14.46 degrees

Younger sister:
Sun: Taurus 23.28 degrees
Moon: Gemini 16.32 degrees
Mercury: Gemini 9.55 degrees
Venus: Gemini 22.39 degrees
Mars: Gemini 20.42 degrees
Rising: Aries 7.57 degrees

I hope this works. Thanks a lot for your help!

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posted May 10, 2015 01:11 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Aries23Degrees     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Sag Asc in women I find are often tomboys. And more likely to have more male friends than females.

You also have Moon Pisces square Asc- this gives you great sensitivity and an introverted disposition.

Your younger sister has Aries Asc.

Most Aries Asc I know are very competitive. I wonder if your sister competes with you?

She also has Venus, Mars, Moon Gemini conjunct your 7th house.

When another's planets appear in our 7th house,they can be our best friend/ worst enemy.

In this instance it could be that she feels like your worst enemy at times because she pokes fun/holes(Gemini) at your grand ideas(Sag).

The older sister has her Mars in your 1st house. But her Mercury forms a trine aspect to your Moon and conjuncts your Mars.

So I am thinking that she could understand you better at times? But that Mars in your 1st is tricky.

Mars is a jerk and since it also squares your natal Moon,she could also offend your delicate sensibilities with her "tell it the way I see it"Sag Mars nature.

On the other hand,it could also mean that you two tend to disagree on fundamental things. This is what Mars in 1st can do and is not always a wonderful meeting of minds.

You can't change your sisters. But you can change the way you respond/interact with them.

And that means that you can consciously control your interactions with them to yield the results you want. Then disengage thereafter.

So for instance, if your sister comes into your bedroom to chat. Gently say to yourself "I see this conversation ending and me taking a walk to the park and listening to music. Relaxed and happy ".

With your Moon in Pisces aspecting your Asc, I suggest you spend time regenerating often as you do have a very sensitive disposition and can "soak up" a lot that's around you.

What will start to happen is that you will train your mind to only focus on the eventual outcome; the peace of walking alone,spending time listening to music in the bedroom or having a fruitful conversation with someone you care to talk to.

The rest will just be a "means" to get there. And no matter what they do to distract you,focus on the eventual outcome and make it your intention to feel good at the end of each day etc.

As you practice this,whether or not you two get on will not matter. And they will start to see that you enjoy whatever comes AFTER your interactions with them and are not wholly invested in them at all.

Sometimes we "force" relationships to pan out with our sibling in a manner that we romanticize them to idealistically be.

Siblings are individuals born from the same womb. Sometimes you have a great deal in common with them. Most times , not so much.

The important thing to always keep in mind is not to stress yourself trying to "change" them. And limit the effect they have over you too.

Acknowledge them as part of your experience for now(sharing the same house). And that it will not always be that way.

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posted May 10, 2015 03:04 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for ScorpAqua     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I have an Aquarian moon. It's not accurate to suggest that air moon people have 'no emotions'. We just tend to respond in a more intellectual way than an emotional way, but we are not unemotional. It's helpful to think of emotions being experienced in the mind rather than in the body. We are more mindfelt than heartfelt.

As an Aqua moon, I find highly sensitive and emotional people a bit high maintenance. In a way I feel like I have to tip toe around them to ensure they are not offended etc, and therefore I find it crimps my ability to feel free to be myself. I have no desire to engage highly strung emotional energy responses all the time because I don't quite relate to it or understand it.

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posted May 10, 2015 03:17 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for teasel     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I wish I could, but my sister was a Pisces Moon, and she made my life hell. We both have Mars square Moon, but my Mars is in Pisces - tolerating just about everything - and hers was in Mars in Sagittarius, which surprisingly wasn't that tolerant.

I say "was" even though she's alive and apparently very happy, because we no longer have a relationship. I didn't cut her down, and she had thanked me in the past for being such a great older sister.

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posted May 10, 2015 03:44 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for FruityLlama     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
A couple of Aquarian moons have come into my life recently. I have an older friend who is a lunar aquarian and also my grandad and then there is like one Gem moon I know so hopefully I can say something useful on this placement if you like.

Well, the two new friends I have one is a Virgo sun with an early aquarius moon and the other a cancer sun with it at 29*. Both are very sweet natured and absolutely hilarious!! The Cancer sun has a very dry sense of humour and does tell things like they are, but honestly they are the best comedians :P
As for the Virgo, well there was the election here in England and we were talking about it and of course we have differing views but he did say to me that he knows he can sort of forget to say things sensitively sometimes, especially if theyre passionate about something. So that was nice though unnecessary because I was being overly sensitive in this case aha :P

My older friend is a Gem.sun and he is very quiet actually. He also has no filter really, he just says things how they are. They seem very honest and straight forward people tbh. He is funny too, especially when drunk! He is very private though, he doesn't tell me a lot, but I thiiiink he has a very early ASC in Scorpio...

My ex was a Gem sun and Gem moon and again quiet, (but then he does have Scorpio rising too) but once you get him talking about university, sciencey stuff, anime or videogames (very visual peeps i think) then he won't stop. I found it quite tiring but all in all a nice chap. Not very good at looking like they were interested in what you were saying though.

And finally my grandad= v. intellectual. V.scientific, again a lot like the above. My grandad is also a Gemini but this one LOVES to talk. Mainly about himself and how clever he is and what he used to do in his career. He said he was born early morning which would give him either Aries or Taurus rising, but yes, everytime we see him it turns into the grandad show aha :P

All in all I think air moons are very funny and clever, but yes its easy to see how they could come across as aloof or whatever. But I don't think they mean to. Thyere just more matter of fact like. Their mentality is more sort of "well its true! You can't say fairer than that!" But yeah, its all in the perceptions.

If they have earth or water it can dilute the effects I think.

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posted May 10, 2015 03:56 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for selenafae96     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Right! All of these replies help a lot! Although me and my siblings disagree sometimes (sometimes a lot), we do have our good times too. Of course, I didn't mean that air moons are completely emotionless. They do get very emotional sometimes. I guess I meant that they aren't sensitive whatsoever to my feelings, and they could even laugh at me when I'm upset. For example, when they say something to cut me down, I get kind of defensive.. Then they go on to say, "Why don't you go and cry about it?". Which I don't, but they pick out the things I'm most self-conscious about and use it against me. What bothers me is that if I say something like "If I were smart, I'd do this.." or something, which my friends are fine with hearing, and they'd agree with me/laugh. My siblings will get all in my face, like, "Stop putting yourself down! I'm sick of you being negative about everything! Stop throwing pity-parties!". I literally have to walk on eggshells around them. I guess the general consensus is that I have to act more like them and keep my emotions to myself.

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posted May 10, 2015 04:46 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for teasel     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by selenafae96:
Right! All of these replies help a lot! Although me and my siblings disagree sometimes (sometimes a lot), we do have our good times too. Of course, I didn't mean that air moons are completely emotionless. They do get very emotional sometimes. I guess I meant that they aren't sensitive whatsoever to my feelings, and they could even laugh at me when I'm upset. For example, when they say something to cut me down, I get kind of defensive.. Then they go on to say, "Why don't you go and cry about it?". Which I don't, but they pick out the things I'm most self-conscious about and use it against me. What bothers me is that if I say something like "If I were smart, I'd do this.." or something, which my friends are fine with hearing, and they'd agree with me/laugh. My siblings will get all in my face, like, "Stop putting yourself down! I'm sick of you being negative about everything! Stop throwing pity-parties!". I literally have to walk on eggshells around them. I guess the general consensus is that I have to act more like them and keep my emotions to myself.

My Pisces Moon sister did that to me. Weird. I would cry, and she would sneer at me. She also used any insecurity she could think of, against me, and even tried to create a few more.

I'm sorry they do that to you. My sister was supposed to be an adult, but there's really no excuse for it at any age.

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posted May 10, 2015 11:04 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for VirgoAquaSag     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Hello! I have Aquarius moon so I thought I could help.

I find it so frustrating when people claim air moons have NO EMOTIONS. That is absolutely not true. All humans have emotions. I have a lot of emotions! And Intense emotions too. (Moon Square Pluto)

It is just that with air moons we try to intellectualize our emotions. We express emotions in different ways.

Honestly, with Aqua moon I don't feel like going through emotional roller coaster on a daily basis. My emotions are usually calm and pretty laid-back.

So when someone with water moon (for example) freaks out over something small in my perspective, I find it really uncomfortable. To me it is not a big of a deal and something that is not necessary to be shared. I feel that I don't have to share every little feelings I have with everyone. I guess I am selective when it comes to whom I share my feelings with and also which emotions I am willing to share.

To get along better with your air moon sisters, try to keep things in a simple manner and communicate clearly. Don't expect a lot of empathy from them. Just tell whatever you need to and let them respond to it their way. You can't control how they are feeling.

Talk a lot with them, from celebrity gossips to news and whatever is going on with your life. With my gemini moon sister, we can talk for hours about everything and it really helps us bond.

I'm sorry you feel that way in a family. I'm sure they love you and care for you. I know I am not as sensitive as Pisces moon so I don't know how frustrating it can be for you. It is not easy getting along between air moon and water moon but I think if you try to adjust to each other it will be fine.

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posted May 10, 2015 11:37 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for PixieJane     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by selenafae96:
I guess I meant that they aren't sensitive whatsoever to my feelings, and they could even laugh at me when I'm upset. For example, when they say something to cut me down, I get kind of defensive.. Then they go on to say, "Why don't you go and cry about it?". Which I don't, but they pick out the things I'm most self-conscious about and use it against me. What bothers me is that if I say something like "If I were smart, I'd do this.." or something, which my friends are fine with hearing, and they'd agree with me/laugh. My siblings will get all in my face, like, "Stop putting yourself down! I'm sick of you being negative about everything! Stop throwing pity-parties!". I literally have to walk on eggshells around them. I guess the general consensus is that I have to act more like them and keep my emotions to myself.

I'm wondering if that might not be their suns more than their moons because I know Pisces mooners who don't care for people feeling sorry for themselves or otherwise getting bent out of shape easily, but they have suns like Aries or Libra (among other placements that could explain that, plus upbringing/social environment and that most of them are men). That's not to say they don't ever get overwhelmed, they just handle it differently than you do. (Interesting enough I know a female Pisces mooner and stellium though her air sun and planets probably mitigate it...she tends to get lost in the pain of others so that she sometimes forgets her own the way some the male Pisces mooners do, though she does express hear fears, self-criticisms, and pain very articulately at times.)

Scorpios can be sensitive and moody but they tend to despise weakness, in both themselves and others--especially in ones they love because that's a quick way to self-destruction in a harsh world that doesn't care about how you feel. They know life is harsh and don't see a point in self-pity (they can fall into this themselves but they'll hate themselves for it), though stinging back is typically acceptable and sometimes encouraged (as long as it's not themselves being on the receiving end, of course).

In addition to caring about you. they also feel comforted in having strong allies who can rise above the pain so that they have someone to depend on (IOW, your Scorpio sister won't be sympathetic listening to you say how your life sucks, but if you decide to do something about it so that it doesn't suck so much she'll likely support you at it and any who tries to stop you will have her for an enemy, but also will want you to be her ally as well--and just offering a hug isn't enough for them and offering a shoulder to cry on is just downright insulting). Furthermore, many Scorpios value family and for them it can feel like they're fighting for more than themselves when they have to be strong for others in addition to one's self (there's a very good chance your Scorpio sister has many problems and inner pain that you're not aware of because she doesn't express them and wonders why you can't deal with your own the same way she does for herself).

And Taurus tends to have a patience that can make them quite stoic.

'Course invade a Scorpio's privacy or disrupt the stability of a Taurus and they'll have meltdowns of their own--and I'd advise against doing this, btw, they're not likely to whine about it but sting or trample the one who dared to do so. Put them in their teen years and I could see them acting like your sisters (especially with those moons, but the suns being more important here).

When you share your weakness with friends that's exposing your vulnerabilities which isn't helping. For your sisters it's like watching you strip naked or literally slap yourself, and not only are you hurting yourself but you're also letting others know how to hurt you (even if your friends won't--and one or more probably will, sooner or later--enemies elsewhere will learn of it through them)...and in this world there are people who won't hesitate to do so once they know how, and will be even more encouraged to hurt you once they know that you're more likely to cry over it rather than do something about it. Furthermore, some LIKE it when you complain because it can make you easy to manipulate, your so-called friend or counselor who seems so eager to "help" is actually taking advantage of your vulnerability to control or exploit you rather than giving you genuine support and have an interest in keeping you weak and hurting. Of course this is unacceptable to your sisters because they care about you, though it may seem they don't.

Maybe next time you want to tell the truth you could instead try to explain the situation and ask how they would deal with it (and if they bring up old patterns just say you're not interested in that, only in how to change the situation to something more acceptable). They'd probably come off as a lot more supportive...assuming, of course, that what you're saying is unacceptable is not how they interact with you (both Taurus and Scorpio are fixed signs, and so is Aquarius, don't expect them to change quickly or easily).

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I do recall one time when my sister thought I was happy about something, and expected her to be, as well. She had a huge fight with her boyfriend, and wanted to come home (she was six hours away, and my parents came home at 10pm, only to turn right around and drive up to get her). She was so upset that she was vomiting, and I was concerned, so I was trying to distract her, and maybe make her laugh a little bit. She ended up exploding at me, thinking that I expected her to be happy that she'd broken up with El Douchebag. I hadn't even thought of that. She ended up staying right where she was, my parents drove up there for nothing, and I stopped trying to talk to her when she told me off - I can't remember if she apologized later.

Anyway: I don't see what's so wrong about crying in front of people, and yet to the same person, mocking them/sneering at them when they're upset, is okay/admirable.

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i have a Leo moon with 2 Libra moon people that I live with and they get along great. I mean, not to say that I don't get along with them because we do, but I've noticed that I can be very over dramatic when it comes to things, which can freak them out, but sometimes I can just be playing. My moon square pluto doesn't help either. My moon is in the 11th house, which can make me aloof sometimes! I have a Libra ascendant so that kinda saves my interactions with them a little bit. I just think with air moons, especially Libra moons, they hate messy emotions. therefore, any emotions that are strong, most air moons will cut off and see you as sensitive, try not to take it too personal though.

I think air moons can be very sensitive though and caring.

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selenafae96:

The air Moon person generally scoots across the surface in life, lubricates things with social connections. You run deeper than they do. You're not supposed to be skating blithely across the surface of life.

Airy types often can be cliquish and insensitive to those are aren't 'with the mainstream.' They don't know what to do with those whose awareness reaches into the cracks and crevices of deeper things.

They are karaoke. You are poetry and appreciating music quietly alone. They are conversations with each other. You are conversations with the different parts within yourself. Just accept they are what they are and respond to you only because they outnumber you. If you had one sister who was airy, she would probably find a way to get along with you better, but because there are two alike they find it easier to buddy up.

I know its probably like you're not even from the same family. But you may find a better way of connecting to them later when both you and they have matured a bit.

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Water moon and Air moon aren't compatible . If you have the other personal planets ( sun,venus,mars,mercury) in fire or air elements ,maybe you can get along with them .

I think you should not try to match with them especially if you don't feel comfortable with or that is really not you . Perhaps try to understand the differeneces might help the situation someway . If you think you can't explain yourself to them then don't . I have a sibling who are like that too , I don't try to match with them , I try to live happily with them instead ...lol

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Air Moons are not good for water Moons when in a very close relationship, ime

I am a Cancer Moon. I need a Moon that views loyalty, as I do.

Loyalty may be my most important value. I can take breaks in lots of things in a relationship, but not loyalty.

If that happens, the relationship is over, in my heart, for me.

In some relationships, you are stuck with the person, such as a relative, but my heart is not open anymore if that person betrays me.

As we have discussed on other threads, the supreme value of loyalty is a trait of certain Moons.

I would say they are Cancer, Scorpio, Taurus, Leo and Capricorn.

In these people, I would trust myself and probably not the other Moons.

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