posted May 14, 2015 10:02 AM            

1- if you have two planets aspecting each other in your natal, when those two planets aspect eachother by transit you will feel the effects.If they do not aspect each other in your natal, then you won't feel the effect.

If this's true that means we will never experience certain influences in our lives due to natal placements ?

2- let's say you have a Venus Pluto square in natal. when trs. Pluto makes a hard aspect to natal pluto then it will activate your natal venus pluto square and you will feel the effects very strongly. If trs. Pluto makes a trine to your natal Venus because you have the square nataly, you won't feel the positivity of trine.

If this is true, then poor is the person who has a lot of squares and oppositions in her/his natal because in this life time he/she can never have an easy flow of things.

3- they also say, if you have two planets squaring each other nataly, when the same planets square each other by transit, you can easily handle the energy because you're used to it.. if you don't have them squaring each other nataly, then squaring transit will hit you hard because you will be new to that sort of energy and you do not know how to handle it.

if this is true then 1st & 2nd not true.

4- Your chart style ( splash, bucket etc )..
When you have a splash chart, it means the planets will be scattered around. So, transiting planets will sqaure some, trine some, oppose some etc. And the minor aspects as well.

So, a person with a splash chart can never have a 'perfect day ?

5- I have a stellium in the 1st house and Saturn in the 7th. So let's say whenever venus enters my 7th house she will oppose my personal planets. Which means I can never celebrate hosting Venus in the 7th because her stay there will cause frictions in my committed relationships.

If this is true, I should forget about having a relationship bliss ?

I am on the verge of quitting astrology because it constantly kills my hope of a better tomorrow.

but maybe its because my interpration of transiting aspects is wrong..

posted May 14, 2015 02:58 PM            

From my experience no, not really. Pluto is almost invisible in my natal chart but when it was hitting my Venus, Sun, Moon etc by transit, I felt it very strongly. Maybe because I was not really familiar with this energy? Well ok, I have Mars in Scorpio but it is not exactly the same…

2- let's say you have a Venus Pluto square in natal. when trs. Pluto makes a hard aspect to natal pluto then it will activate your natal venus pluto square and you will feel the effects very strongly. If trs. Pluto makes a trine to your natal Venus because you have the square nataly, you won't feel the positivity of trine. If this is true, then poor is the person who has a lot of squares and oppositions in her/his natal because in this life time he/she can never have an easy flow of things.

I can’t really say, I don't remember experiencing any similar situation. But I would presume that if you have natally Venus-Pluto square, then tr Venus trine Pluto would mitigate this negative aspect in the natal chart.

3- they also say, if you have two planets squaring each other nataly, when the same planets square each other by transit, you can easily handle the energy because you're used to it.. if you don't have them squaring each other nataly, then squaring transit will hit you hard because you will be new to that sort of energy and you do not know how to handle it. if this is true then 1st & 2nd not true.

From my personal experience yes and no…You can be used to these energies but you might also feel the transit badly nevertheless… I have Venus square Uranus natally and when tr Uranus was opposite my natal Venus I felt it quite strongly… I guess the best situation is when you have a good aspect natally between two planets. Then, a bad transit between these planets won’t be that painful. I have natal Neptune trine Venus and when I had tr Neptune opposite my Venus the transit wasn’t maybe great but not that bad either.

4- Your chart style ( splash, bucket etc ).. When you have a splash chart, it means the planets will be scattered around. So, transiting planets will sqaure some, trine some, oppose some etc. And the minor aspects as well. So, a person with a splash chart can never have a 'perfect day ?

This is a very important issue and I guess everybody should study very carefully the patterns in their own natal chart as it is extremely important when it comes to transits.
There are pros and cons of all chart configurations, I guess. My take is that the splash chart is NOT that bad… My brother has this type of chart and in his case whenever he has one bad transit, he has 2 or 3 other which are positive so he basically never feels bad transits at all… because good transits protect him from bad ones… one lucky guy…! Now in my case it’s very different… My basic problem is that my Sun and Venus conjunct the ASC and my Moon conjunct MC…the problem is whenever a transiting planet conjunct ANY angle, it makes a hard transit to all other angles plus Sun, Moon, Venus…These are always periods of major upheavals and I am sure one of these series will kill me. For example since 2012, Chiron was around my DSC which meant it was opp my Venus, Sun and ASC and square MC and Moon. The worst 3 years of my life. Neptune follows and will do exactly the same to these points…and there are not many good transits that could protect me from these influences :/

5- I have a stellium in the 1st house and Saturn in the 7th. So let's say whenever venus enters my 7th house she will oppose my personal planets. Which means I can never celebrate hosting Venus in the 7th because her stay there will cause frictions in my committed relationships. If this is true, I should forget about having a relationship bliss ?

posted May 14, 2015 06:48 PM            

And I hate to see that next few years of life will be rough when I look at the transits. ( It has already been rough for the last 3 years ).. Especially when you look at the chart of your ex-lover and see that he will be having a great time while you're suffering, you curse the stars above. Would not it be great if I just did not have this information..yeah ignorance can be a bliss...

I know they say the way you handle the energies is up to you but I have not heard anyone saying they had a great time while under the effect of several hard transits.
I hate it when things forced upon me. And after all years flirting with spirituality, I am nowhere close to accepting a predestined life. I guess I wanne be Godalike. Such strong ego...

Do you know a book that is only focused on how to make hard aspects work for you ? No negatives... The thing is due to my Pluto aspects I already have a negative thinking pattern and reading negative things about what's going to happen just paralyzez me more.

I understand what you mean on splash charts.. But If given a chance I would have chosen to live life divided into 2 - magical, heavenly years / horrible, hellish years instead of in between dark & lightness all the time.

I would have loved to experience a period in life where there is nothing shadowing the happiness...

I am so tired of it all. I just wanna exist.
And believe that tomorrow can be a better day...

posted May 15, 2015 06:02 AM            

You also said you are having hard Pluto transits…well, these ones are the worst. When Pluto was around my IC it formed hard transits to my Venus, then Moon, MC, ASC and finally Sun. It was happening from the 4th house so transformation was very internal. For me the lesson was to find and develop my own personal power. During that time I thought I was going through my own private inferno but now, from the perspective of time I am astonished of how much I actually managed to accomplish in that period, it was not that bad after all. In fact, when it comes to transits you understand things much better in retrospect, when the transit is over.

Since you have a splash chart, then different planets are likely to influence different points in your chart. Hence, there should be always something positive going on in your chart and that’s what you should concentrate on. Don’t put your life on hold and dwell on the negative, that’s the worst thing to do I guess. Try to concentrate on the areas in your chart which are under positive influences. Besides, don’t forget about Solar Return or solar arc. I notice they can actually explain quite a lot and can serve as an additional source of information. In my current SR I have Saturn and Mars in my 6th house… I read this is not a good placement when it comes to health issues and in fact during this solar year I have constantly been having health issues, fortunately nothing very serious but annoying enough… And it can’t be explained by transits.

posted May 16, 2015 05:56 PM            

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Originally posted by Gemmi:
I would also like to find a source about handling bad transits and turn them to one’s advantage, but I think it is more complicated as everybody has different experiences with a given planet. For example, I have quite good experiences with hard Saturn transits. Don’t really understand why, maybe because Saturn is strong in Libra and it conjuncts the ruler of my chart, Mercury? I think you have to see how the planet operates in your natal and what influence it has on you during transits and next time when it transits another planet you will be better equipped to deal with the energy. Then you have of course transiting/transited planets’ rulers and specific houses in which transits take place, so the picture becomes quite complex.

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that's what trips me about astrology. Under normal circumstances hard Saturn aspects should give a hard time. I am a double Cap and Saturn is opposing my Capricorn planets. So, I am Saturnian ( Plutonian, Uranian, and Gemini moon )... When Saturn was sqauring my Venus, I felt it hell a lot. But on the other hand I have Venus opposite Saturn nataly so that might be the reason why I felt the negative although I am Saturnian...

To be honest I want to believe one can make a mess of trine aspects as well. Everything has Yin Yang in it. With squares it's the dark containing light, with trines it's the light containing dark.

There must be away to rise above the harsh aspects. To turn them into luck. I know they say its possible but I guess I need to hear the success stories. Like you who enjoyed harsh Saturn aspects

And yes, my dear Pluto. The stellium in my 1st house squares Pluto but I've got the moon trine (exact ) & mars sextile Pluto.

So, I keep telling myself you're emotionaly strong, you can heal yourself. I hold onto that trine ( which I have only a few in my chart )

Since Pluto entered Capricorn, my 1st house stellium conjunctions has taken hold over my life, my persona. The effects have been more physological than physical. But of course the physocology has manifested in the outer world.

Unfortunately, I have upcoming Neptune square Mars, square Neptune, square NN transits. They are already on but the orb is not 2 yet.
However, trs. Saturn will be conjuncting all of them as well. I agree with the cancelling out theory. I think Saturn will help me with these squares. But of course Neptune squares last longer..

I will have some other hard transits simultaneously. Let's see if I can rise above all.

and thank you thank you so much for your insights

posted May 17, 2015 03:18 PM            

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Originally posted by sis:

There must be a way to rise above the harsh aspects. To turn them into luck.

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I think it might help if transiting planets’ energies are handled in the right way. No planet is either black or white. Even Jupiter transits which are said to be pleasant and lucky might become unfavorable if the energy is mismanaged. That’s why so many people put on weight during Jupiter transits, because instead of taking advantage of the positive side of this energy (expanding and growing in consciousness), they become lazy and self-indulgent… So even Jupiter transits can turn out to be negative, if we neglect the potential they offer.

The same with other planets. I’m sure Neptune transits are ideal for artistic and spiritual issues and pursuits, but most people have to deal with mundane world’s problems. And that’s why these transits are so tricky. But maybe if Neptune’s energy is channeled in art or spirituality it won’t influence other areas of our life where we have to be more down-to-earth? For Pluto, you might consider looking for areas in which you find the healthy expression of your own personal power, things which make you powerful. Maybe these Pluto transits you are having ask you to work on the natal expression of Pluto and master it?