posted May 15, 2015 08:21 AM            

But again,this is most apparent when Mars is in Aries-Because when in other signs, the energy is diluted a great deal.

So in Pixie Jane's case,Mars in Sag is an advantageous position on one hand, but also very temperamental on the other.

Mars in fire(including Aries) is much like a knife: Very handy to slice and dice things, but can also be used as a weapon to injure, force or kill.

When I think of Mars in Sag personally, I think of a someone who is often a religious zealot.

There could be many disputes with gurus, teachers,priests and people that impart knowledge-including the father.

Mars doesn't obey people they don't respect.

When in 5th,it often suggests that one is likely to enjoy hobbies that either are very physical(fire); racing, extreme sports, rock climbing etc.

Or those that allows them maximum freedom of movement;dancing,high jump, horse-rising,tennis, gymnastics etc.

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You EmGem have your Mars in the steadier sign of Leo.

Leo Mars is not aggressive per se. But they can be sure-footed and very sure of their own path- which can come off to others as being "over-confident".

Often Leo (like other fixed signs) doesn't like to moved. Not unless they are doing the "moving" themselves.

So one finds that people who tell them what to do or watch over them with a critical eye- often get "the lion's roar".

In younger years(and sometimes even older ones), Leo's can butt heads with authority figures(Sun).Or those whom they have to answer

This includes the government,their boss Mom and Dad,older sibling,the concept of "God" etc.

Run ins with the law are not uncommon. And this is not to say that Leo Mars is criminal per se, nor do they think themselves "above the law" etc.

But they don't like having to answer to people at all. It annoys them greatly.

They don't go all out to rebel. But when they do, they resent the backlash that comes with it: As that is a statement to say that they are like everyone else.

Leo knows that they are NOT like everyone else.They are "special" and their situation should be taken as an exception to the general rule. Always

Leo is very much like the Sun: Preferring to be self-made and self appointed. And not answering to anyone. Because they truly want to be the only one in charge of their ow destiny.

Leo can be the one appointed to manage others. And can do so successfully if the pride and arrogance is managed properly etc. But not the other way around.

Leo also tends to conserve energy and doesn't want to do something that is sporadic and expends effort superfluously.

So your Mars in 11th,often suggests that you gain liquid gains(11th);money,favours ,influence,friends,dreams coming true and personal rewards through a focused effort(Mars Leo).

Things of the 11th house often seem very serious" with Mars in fixed sign Leo there: Like there has to be a purpose to it all. Not a thankless or fruitless avenue.

Mars alone would usually mean that you can be single-minded and even ruthless in getting that which you want.

But since the planet is in Leo and Leo is not one to be aggressive.

It suggests that you want to plan well and go about getting that which you want through a concentrated effort(Leo).

You rarely change your mind(fixed) about 11th house issues; friends, dreams and hopes etc. stay with you a long while.

And so you tend to have a "steady" approach in realizing your wishes, hopes and dreams.

Much of the ability to attain the things of the 11th relies on you; because you rarely let go of your initial goals and their fulfillment becomes a lifelong involving process indeed.

posted May 16, 2015 02:18 AM            

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Originally posted by Aries23Degrees:
[b]Mars is aggressive generally and shows where one is likely to dedicate a great deal of energy,drive,focus and "single-mindedness".

But again,this is most apparent when Mars is in Aries-Because when in other signs, the energy is diluted a great deal.

So in [b]Pixie Jane's case,Mars in Sag is an advantageous position on one hand, but also very temperamental on the other.

Mars in fire(including Aries) is much like a knife: Very handy to slice and dice things, but can also be used as a weapon to injure, force or kill.

When I think of Mars in Sag personally, I think of a someone who is often a religious zealot.

There could be many disputes with gurus, teachers,priests and people that impart knowledge-including the father.

Mars doesn't obey people they don't respect.

When in 5th,it often suggests that one is likely to enjoy hobbies that either are very physical(fire); racing, extreme sports, rock climbing etc.

Or those that allows them maximum freedom of movement;dancing,high jump, horse-rising,tennis, gymnastics etc.

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You EmGem have your Mars in the steadier sign of Leo.

Leo Mars is not aggressive per se. But they can be sure-footed and very sure of their own path- which can come off to others as being "over-confident".

Often Leo (like other fixed signs) doesn't like to moved. Not unless they are doing the "moving" themselves.

So one finds that people who tell them what to do or watch over them with a critical eye- often get "the lion's roar".

In younger years(and sometimes even older ones), Leo's can butt heads with authority figures(Sun).Or those whom they have to answer

This includes the government,their boss Mom and Dad,older sibling,the concept of "God" etc.

Run ins with the law are not uncommon. And this is not to say that Leo Mars is criminal per se, nor do they think themselves "above the law" etc.

But they don't like having to answer to people at all. It annoys them greatly.

They don't go all out to rebel. But when they do, they resent the backlash that comes with it: As that is a statement to say that they are like everyone else.

Leo knows that they are NOT like everyone else.They are "special" and their situation should be taken as an exception to the general rule. Always

Leo is very much like the Sun: Preferring to be self-made and self appointed. And not answering to anyone. Because they truly want to be the only one in charge of their ow destiny.

Leo can be the one appointed to manage others. And can do so successfully if the pride and arrogance is managed properly etc. But not the other way around.

Leo also tends to conserve energy and doesn't want to do something that is sporadic and expends effort superfluously.

So your Mars in 11th,often suggests that you gain liquid gains(11th);money,favours ,influence,friends,dreams coming true and personal rewards through a focused effort(Mars Leo).

Things of the 11th house often seem very serious" with Mars in fixed sign Leo there: Like there has to be a purpose to it all. Not a thankless or fruitless avenue.

Mars alone would usually mean that you can be single-minded and even ruthless in getting that which you want.

But since the planet is in Leo and Leo is not one to be aggressive.

It suggests that you want to plan well and go about getting that which you want through a concentrated effort(Leo).

You rarely change your mind(fixed) about 11th house issues; friends, dreams and hopes etc. stay with you a long while.

And so you tend to have a "steady" approach in realizing your wishes, hopes and dreams.

Much of the ability to attain the things of the 11th relies on you; because you rarely let go of your initial goals and their fulfillment becomes a lifelong involving process indeed.[/B]

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Wow i resonate with a lot of what you have written about my mars! i've always had an issue with authority which led me to rebel in my teenage years and again now. now it makes more sense. thanks for providing that description Aries

posted May 16, 2015 02:24 AM            

I am interested in the dynamics between how a woman experiences her mars - in terms of how she manifests the masculine part of her when the feminine is strong and even vice versa for a male and his venus/moon. I find the polarities fascinating!

posted May 16, 2015 09:06 PM            

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Originally posted by Aries23Degrees:
Mars is aggressive generally and shows where one is likely to dedicate a great deal of energy,drive,focus and "single-mindedness".

But again,this is most apparent when Mars is in Aries-Because when in other signs, the energy is diluted a great deal.

So in Pixie Jane's case,Mars in Sag is an advantageous position on one hand, but also very temperamental on the other.

Mars in fire(including Aries) is much like a knife: Very handy to slice and dice things, but can also be used as a weapon to injure, force or kill.

When I think of Mars in Sag personally, I think of a someone who is often a religious zealot.

There could be many disputes with gurus, teachers,priests and people that impart knowledge-including the father.

Mars doesn't obey people they don't respect.

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I did go through a fanaticism phase when I was 17-25, though my 3H Libra stellium (including Saturn which did some interesting things that would surprise many astrologers, though I think it makes sense when you take the circumstances into account along with the Mars-Uranus, and I've become more traditional 3H Libra Saturn wise since then) mitigated it somewhat. This wasn't religious per se (though there were occult elements) but more philosophical that also included strong ideological aspects. I'm not like that at all anymore and now look down on extremism and cringe as I recall how I used to be (even potentially dangerous), and just how easy it was for certain people to manipulate me because of it.

Another mitigating factor, however, is that I was very challenging to those who tried to command or manipulate me too blatantly (that Mars-Uranus conjunction of mine in a stellium frustrated and ticked off a lot of people over the years, including various types of anarchists who tried to get me to act and be a certain way thinking I'd do something because they said so, some of the stories are rather funny though I often cringe telling them)...I'd do what I was told but I had to be convinced that I wanted to do it rather than because I was simply told to, that is you had to show me how it would "further the cause" in a constructive way.

If anything, religion mitigated my fanaticism (while also giving me another ironic outlet for it) in the form of the Taoism inherent in Discordianism (some of the pranks we pulled that doubled as culture jamming still make us laugh when we talk about them 10 years later), as did the counsel of certain Wiccans I respected--note, I didn't respect them just because they were Wiccans--who promoted an adaptability and flexibility similar to Taoism. And Taoist principles have a brilliant way of explaining how trying to force something is often counterproductive (even from a purely pragmatic view).

posted May 16, 2015 09:07 PM            

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Originally posted by Aries23Degrees:
When in 5th,it often suggests that one is likely to enjoy hobbies that either are very physical(fire); racing, extreme sports, rock climbing etc.

Or those that allows them maximum freedom of movement;dancing,high jump, horse-rising,tennis, gymnastics etc.

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As for hobbies...I did get into gymnastics as a child and had a talent and love for it but it was way too expensive for anyone to send me to develop that talent or exercise that enjoyment (but I still did plenty of cartwheels and basic tumbling). I used to be a major dancer as well, probably could've become professional had I applied myself in that direction (and even got nicknames based on it). Maybe in Russia I'd have become a dancer or gymnast, but not in America (at least not without a lot more money, and then it would remain to see if my 5H Mars-Uranus didn't alienate any teachers or mentors).

Doing some thought exercises I believe that had I been raised in a decent (and not impoverished) family in Japan that I may have even become high ranking in the Kendo club (among many other arts that westerners usually don't know about, such as the artful way of placing plants, paintings, and fishing ponds, all that I'd pursue with the same passion, though this includes my Libra aspects along with Leo ASC).

But given my impoverished upbringing (though also a grandmother who loved me) in the United States...I got into skateboarding and became very good at it (I also had nicknames based on my skill there as well). However, once I moved to the west coast then surfing slowly replaced skateboarding as my passion.