posted May 15, 2015 10:37 PM            

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Originally posted by hannaramaa:
Do people with Pluto in the 5th have a transforming affect on their "flings"? Do they wake them up?

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Mine did... but I don't know if it was a fling.

Off and on for four years.

The Pluto in 5th is his-- conjunct his Sun (and

Uranus and Merc).

It also falls in my 5th House.

This one was a life-changer; totally changed the

way I perceived things.

What made you ask this?

Very interesting stuff.

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Nothing is permanent in this wicked world; not even our troubles.

posted May 15, 2015 10:46 PM            

Asked because after I date people I notice they complete big life changes like losing weight (Libra rules my 5th but Pluto is in Scorpio) or they commit to someone right after me (did I heal them?) or they get promoted.

posted May 16, 2015 05:58 PM            

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Originally posted by hannaramaa:
Do you mind elaborating on your past relationships, how you think you had an effect on them? You can keep it brief if you want I guess I just want to see if it's like mine.

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Sure! Hmm, like I said, I'm only just now experiencing my first real, committed relationship, so I haven't got a whole lot behind me to give as information from past experiences. But at least one that stands out was with a guy whom from the years 2011-2012 I had a real thing for, only most of our friendship was online, as we had met like that. And it was an on/off friendship within that time period too. He would get weird and stop talking. But we had finally met at the beginning of 2012 and realized we felt sexually attracted to each other, and were almost seeming like we were going to start dating.

He was never a guy that had talked much about relationships, sex, or being interested in women, though I knew he was straight (I'm assuming this might have been because he was a Pisces Moon and maybe was a little shy and inexperienced and didn't want to tell me). But I was happy we had finally met in person and seemed romantically/sexually attracted. But because of my emotional state at the time and the fact that I was about to move (though not far away) he soon stopped talking again.

Then less than a month later, he met someone, unbeknownst to me, so I was a bit upset and ****** . And I don't know, he just seemed then that he was suddenly into relationships and was happier and all that good stuff, out of nowhere. I think he stayed with her for about three years. Recently, a couple months ago in March, we reconnected, albeit really briefly. We had plans at one point to hang out, and then boom, like always, he disappeared. I was not shocked, but a bit saddened. I suspected if it had something to do with him finding out I wasn't single, and I knew that he was (social media tells all, lol). Either that or he just got nervous.

I always just wondered if I had anything to do with him maybe being more open and into dating after the short fling he had with me. His life just seemed to change in that arena.

posted May 16, 2015 09:05 PM            

@Odette - I didn't know you had Pluto in the 5th. Being as it's Pluto, negative transformations are welcome too. In fact I was friends with a SuperLeo and after I'd had enough of him suffocating me for a year I broke it off. He ate himself 200+ lbs. in and only recently has lost a lot of the weight due to some type of reduction surgery. There's obviously more going on there than just our friendship but I still added it to my list.

posted May 16, 2015 10:08 PM            

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Originally posted by hannaramaa:
@Yellowelevator - I know that feeling of not being picked, it's not pretty! Something that just came to me about Pluto in the 5th is I wonder if those who are our reciprocates feel drowned by us, but because we have that placement it seems normal. So think about if you were drowning and then came up for air or survived, everything else would seem easy and pale in comparison which is maybe why they so easily get in relationships afterwards... not sure. All of that potentially sounds arrogant or like I'm in denial that sometimes people just don't want to be with me.

@Odette - I didn't know you had Pluto in the 5th. Being as it's Pluto, negative transformations are welcome too. In fact I was friends with a SuperLeo and after I'd had enough of him suffocating me for a year I broke it off. He ate himself 200+ lbs. in and only recently has lost a lot of the weight due to some type of reduction surgery. There's obviously more going on there than just our friendship but I still added it to my list.

To Yellow and Odette - what's in your 7th houses? Can the 5th and 7th houses work in tandem without needing a joining aspect?

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It isn't pretty indeed. But thankfully I am long over him. I was almost convinced a couple of times that I would forever pang for him. I'll still always miss him and what we had, but I'm not infatuated anymore. We may never speak again. I have always felt like we've had some real Karma going on between us, so who knows, maybe we will.

Also, that's a really interesting way to look at it. I don't think it sounds arrogant at all really - I understand. For all we know, this could all very well be a possibility with this Pluto placement.

posted May 16, 2015 10:50 PM            

I do actually have a link between the two houses in natal. My 7th cusp is probably at 29' Sagittarius. There's a chance it could be at 0' Capricorn though.
I have Mars conjunct Neptune in Capricorn (7th)... sextile my 5th house Pluto & SN (Scorpio).
I also have my Moon on the 7th/8th cusp.

posted May 16, 2015 10:51 PM            

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Also, that's a really interesting way to look at it. I don't think it sounds arrogant at all really - I understand. For all we know, this could all very well be a possibility with this Pluto placement.

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posted May 16, 2015 11:26 PM            

My pluto is in his 5th and conjuncts his cupido.

His pluto is bang smack on my ASC (his DSC). I can definitely feel it at work on both accounts.
I feel like I am teaching him a hell of a lot about a lot of 5th related stuff....relating in a way that is so different from anything else he has done in the past. we often discuss a lot of 5th related things funnily enough. it's a fling...but then it's not because there's so much soulful interacting. strange...and dangerous i think.

posted May 17, 2015 12:23 AM            

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Originally posted by hannaramaa:
... think about if you were drowning and then came up for air or survived, everything else would seem easy and pale in comparison which is maybe why they so easily get in relationships afterwards... not sure. All of that potentially sounds arrogant or like I'm in denial that sometimes people just don't want to be with me.

@Odette - I didn't know you had Pluto in the 5th. Being as it's Pluto, negative transformations are welcome too. In fact I was friends with a SuperLeo and after I'd had enough of him suffocating me for a year I broke it off. He ate himself 200+ lbs. in and only recently has lost a lot of the weight due to some type of reduction surgery. There's obviously more going on there than just our friendship but I still added it to my list. ...

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If I may, as the affected party...

The first part is pretty much how it is: drowning/survived...

regular life now seems pretty easy (that feeling is short-lived,

though the lessons and perception change are lasting).

But if someone is drowning, consider that someone had to first

throw them a life-preserver before they could even think of

coming up for air: that's where YOU came in.

You were there for a season, as you were supposed to be-- and

that's a good thing (but not easy, I've heard).

What they choose to do with that is on them.

As always, my opinion.

**Note: from talking to him (and we talk a lot, still), it seems

that greedy people... those who want something for nothing, or those

who are always paranoid that they are being cheated out of something...

are the most difficult to reach.

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posted May 17, 2015 12:57 AM            

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Originally posted by hannaramaa:
I'm unsure a natal Pluto in the 5th is a life-preserver. . . mainly because anything healing-related I mostly attribute to Neptune. That, and it's the Pluto in 5th person that causes the "drowning" in the first place.

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I think it's multifaceted.

But if Pluto caused only the drowning, then he just created

a problem that wasn't there before he came along.

That's just misfortune.

The life-preserver is metaphorical, but it's there, nonetheless.

It has to be, imo, even if you what you learn is the strength to

rescue yourself.

Pluto is transformation, imo... not just a crisis generator.