posted May 15, 2015 09:00 PM            

One thing I have noticed is that these orbs have a certain meaning, and it seems like Although my Sun in Leo is fixed, it has a mutable energy, same goes for my Moon

posted May 16, 2015 01:38 AM            

But the whole sign system is strongly recommended to people who are starting out and trying to understand/ascertain their natal positions.

I personally have stuck with it; As the whole concept of intercepted signs and "out of sign" aspects really confused the hell out of me.

I am also fascinated with the whole sign aspect method: Where whether or not a sign is in Leo-regardless of degrees- aspects another fixed sign, say Scorpio by square- regardless of its degree placement.

But I don't like to share this fixation with everyone; as it invites all sorts of controversy and puts water all over the whole "sabian symbol" astrology stuff.

posted May 17, 2015 02:07 PM            

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Originally posted by Aries23Degrees:
I don't know whether we are on the same page

But the whole sign system is strongly recommended to people who are starting out and trying to understand/ascertain their natal positions.

I personally have stuck with it; As the whole concept of intercepted signs and "out of sign" aspects really confused the hell out of me.

I am also fascinated with the whole sign aspect method: Where whether or not a sign is in Leo-regardless of degrees- aspects another fixed sign, say Scorpio by square- regardless of its degree placement.

But I don't like to share this fixation with everyone; as it invites all sorts of controversy and puts water all over the whole "sabian symbol" astrology stuff.

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posted May 17, 2015 02:16 PM            

my IC/MC is leo/aquarius and i don't relate whatsoever. nothing at all. but the dwad puts it at scorpio ic/taurus mc. and that is absolutely on point 100%

so i think they can hold considerable power and i tend to looks at them when looks at signs as = actual sign 60-70% strength and the dwad as the 30-40% of the picture. so i take both side by side.

posted May 17, 2015 02:30 PM            

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Originally posted by confusedaseff:
yeah they're called dwads? i think thats what you're talking about

my IC/MC is leo/aquarius and i don't relate whatsoever. nothing at all. but the dwad puts it at scorpio ic/taurus mc. and that is absolutely on point 100%

so i think they can hold considerable power and i tend to looks at them when looks at signs as = actual sign 60-70% strength and the dwad as the 30-40% of the picture. so i take both side by side.

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posted May 17, 2015 02:42 PM            

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Originally posted by NYCdodger:
Never heard of a dwad before. Whats that? The MC/IC axis is very powerful and special. In the whole house system, it doesn't have to be the 10th/4th house. It can be the 11th/5th (which is mine) the 8th/2nd or the 9th/3rd.

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posted May 17, 2015 03:04 PM            

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Originally posted by Aries23Degrees:
I don't know whether we are on the same page

But the whole sign system is strongly recommended to people who are starting out and trying to understand/ascertain their natal positions.

I personally have stuck with it; As the whole concept of intercepted signs and "out of sign" aspects really confused the hell out of me.

I am also fascinated with the whole sign aspect method: Where whether or not a sign is in Leo-regardless of degrees- aspects another fixed sign, say Scorpio by square- regardless of its degree placement.

But I don't like to share this fixation with everyone; as it invites all sorts of controversy and puts water all over the whole "sabian symbol" astrology stuff.

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posted May 17, 2015 03:19 PM            

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Originally posted by NYCdodger:
I've been studying my MC/IC axis lately and its amazing how much knowledge I've received from it. My MC/IC axis is Sagittarius and Gemini in the 11th/5th houses (not 10th/4th because I follow the whole sign system) and EVERYTHING RINGS TRUE. Guys, learn about the whole house system because if you're mc/ic axis falls in the 11th/5th houses the energy will be so different. Same goes for the 9th/3rd houses, 8th/2nd houses etc.. The Sag/Gem energies are both at 0 degrees. So its double the effect. My Sun is in leo at 4 degrees and it trines my MC. My Moon in Libra is at 17 degrees as well and My ASC in Aquarius is at 9'59 degrees.

One thing I have noticed is that these orbs have a certain meaning, and it seems like Although my Sun in Leo is fixed, it has a mutable energy, same goes for my Moon

Has any of you experienced anything with certain degrees? My Lilith also conjunct my MC EXACT at 0 degrees in Sagittarius. Any of you know how this may play out in my life? I guess my inner and outer destinies will express and receive the "Lilith" effect? :-/

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There are a number of reasons for critical
degrees.
O sag/0 ge is a spot from some reason, a kickoff point I think.
I know the 8-9 Gemini/sag is critical because last Neptune/Pluto conj was there in 1891.