posted May 17, 2015 09:46 AM            

Him: Aqua sun, Libra moon, Cap Venus, Cap Mars
My placements: Leo sun, Libra moon, Leo Venus, Gemini Mars

So Aqua here is kind of my (new) best buddy. We started off chatting online a lot last year but prior to that, we have met each other in real life, in a professional setting. We were in different places for long while but now we're back in the same place again and ever since then, we have been hanging out frequently and now more so frequently. Let’s just say that we became very good friends in a short period of time.

So just some context, at this point we're very good friends, we talk about our futures a lot in terms of career plans and how we plan to get there, we're both also equally driven (almost to the point of madness). Lately, Aqua has been hanging out with me more so than ever. It used to be a few times a week back then but now we even work together on weekends in the same spaces even though we're doing separate types of work.

He would sometimes hang out with only me the entire day. In such instances when we're not working, we're usually stimulating each other mentally - we usually have a lot to talk about and we do enjoy each other's company. We have even agreed that we think alike psychologically as we both value mental stimulation (we also philosophise a lot) and he once told me that I am one of the only people to whom he replies messages consistently (he usually ignores or blows people off).

It has also come to the point where he tells me a lot about his past, even some very personal details and likewise, I have opened up to him. I would say that he’s quite comfortable with me, and quite open – open to the extent that he tells me the disgusting details of his daily disgusting washroom adventures (you get me).

Recently, we both realised that there is a girl who is his good friend who likes him - when she prompts him regarding what he's doing, he just sends her pictures of me at that very point of time (all candid) - what is he trying to prove? He told me that he doesn't like her which leaves me slightly confused. She usually bombards him with messages, most of which he ignores.

On my end, I don't think I display the traits of the traditional Leo Venus except for the bit where I treat him like royalty by lavishing them with gifts once in awhile and these gifts are usually things that would be of practical use to him. I'm very career-driven, and I can spend extended periods alone (I do enjoy my alone time tremendously too!).

Anyway folks, I'm quite curious - do you think that there are any romantic implications (or may be developing) on his end? I'm quite comfortable with your current phase but I am just curious.

posted May 17, 2015 10:01 AM            

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Our placements:

Him: Aqua sun, Libra moon, Cap Venus, Cap Mars

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wow, i have the same placements as him except for his mars - mine is in Aqua!

well, i would say that his Aqua Sun represents his personality to be open, friendly and even too open leaving discretion to the side LOL. I find myself being the same way, but in a more silly way. This would mean that he is very comfortable with you to be playful with you in that way..I would say its a form of being 'flirty'. Also, him being sexually open with you, this could be his Mars in Cap. They are comfortable in their sexuality and are lusty individuals.. Is this true?

We Aquas can be very aloof and tend to hyper focus on someone we take a liking and who we find interesting. So this could be why he is focusing only with you and ignores the rest.

His Venus Cap is making him tread with the connection in a more careful way. Has he expressed any signs that he might be feeling intimate feelings for you? And are you connecting with him in a more intimate way? I would suggest to show him some signs, and when i mean show him, like don't be coy about it, i really mean SHOW HIM! I am saying this because for me personally, with my Cap in Venus, I need that sign to go forward with my feelings just to be SURE. We need that nudge!

Aquarius sun value friendships more than being in a relationship. I find this true for myself and my friends who has Aquarius placements in their natal charts. Its very important for us to have a solid foundation in this area. When we do know that the friendship is solid, we are then able to be silly, playful with you. Then perhaps move forward into dating. But with you being his best friend, you are on the right track!

With both your moons in Libra, that's a great compatibility in that placement. You blend very well together and instinctively understand one another. This is why you mentioned you stimulate each other and spend alot of time talking with each other as you said above...

Keep an eye on his Mars in Cap though, this placement tend to be controlling and it will not mesh well with your Sun in Leo personality...Also Mars is exalted in Capricorn, so it looks like you will have to be the one doing the actions here if you want to be with him.

Oh and regarding the other girl, does it bother you that he is interacting with her? And him responding to her? Perhaps he is sending her a photo of you as a sign as a hint to her that he is 'with you' ?

Does this help?

posted May 17, 2015 11:51 AM            

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His Venus Cap is making him tread with the connection in a more careful way. Has he expressed any signs that he might be feeling intimate feelings for you? And are you connecting with him in a more intimate way? I would suggest to show him some signs, and when i mean show him, like don't be coy about it, i really mean SHOW HIM! I am saying this because for me personally, with my Cap in Venus, I need that sign to go forward with my feelings just to be SURE. We need that nudge!

Keep an eye on his Mars in Cap though, this placement tend to be controlling and it will not mesh well with your Sun in Leo personality...Also Mars is exalted in Capricorn, so it looks like you will have to be the one doing the actions here if you want to be with him.

Oh and regarding the other girl, does it bother you that he is interacting with her? And him responding to her? Perhaps he is sending her a photo of you as a sign as a hint to her that he is 'with you' ?

Does this help?

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posted May 17, 2015 01:04 PM            

If I may ask, connected as in physical? I am asking because it would be helpful to know so I am able to see where you stand with him or how the connection is progressing...

So either way, I will have to make the first move - because from what I understand about Venus Cap, they prefer to make the first move, am I right? Or would it be best to just drop hints (I actually have, I don't think he's picking them up)?

From my own point of view being a Venus Cap myself, like I mentioned above, we need that clear hint that you are interested in us FIRST. What did you say or hinted that he didn't get? Capricorn is an earthly cardinal sign and that makes us smart initiators. What this means is that we take risks in familiar environment and that is also only if they promise something of value.

As for the other girl, I have told him my reservations about her and he is aware of the whole situation - how I feel about her (I am alright with him mixing around with her because they're still friends regardless), how she feels about me (she is envious of me spending so much time with him). I also know that when he takes pictures of me while hanging out to send to her, he does it on purpose, so I'm not sure if he's doing it to get a rise out of her, which I think is mean (I have told him this as well) but he keeps messing around like that.

Honestly, he sounds immature. How old is he if I may ask? Perhaps his Aqua sun is being playful in a friendly way with her, but his Mars Cap is bringing out his mean, almost sinister side.

Also, I am sensing you don't like this attention he is giving to her despite him being 'mean' to her? Leo sun personality likes to have that attention on them most of the time...But, sensing from you have shared thus far, it looks like he does have feelings for you as well, but you have to initiate first, then once he has that 'safety net' to fall into, he will also give his feelings for you a go!

Good luck dibsy!

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posted May 18, 2015 12:21 PM            

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If I may ask, connected as in physical? I am asking because it would be helpful to know so I am able to see where you stand with him or how the connection is progressing...

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Nope, all purely mental! Also, when I say personal level, he has opened up to me about his emotional baggage (he doesn't realise that it is emotional baggage). I was the first to open up about my past and over time, he did as well. Physically, he likes to nudge me playfully, and more so than usual lately (but I think he does this to his other friends of the opposite gender too). I also realised that he would move from one far end of the room just to sit with me and annoy me. He got more playful lately! I'm not sure if he is like that with every other girl though. He also became comfortable... to the extent that it is disgusting. Tells me his bathroom adventures or refers to his sacred parts (in a non-pervy but biological way) nonchalantly. Yuck.

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From my own point of view being a Venus Cap myself, like I mentioned above, we need that clear hint that you are interested in us FIRST. What did you say or hinted that he didn't get? Capricorn is an earthly cardinal sign and that makes us smart initiators. What this means is that we take risks in familiar environment and that is also only if they promise something of value.

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I see. Well a couple of times, I have spoken in slightly more deeper details on the type of person I would date and how long it would take me to pursue someone and under what circumstances. While it is not a direct allegory to him, he certainly fits the criteria in all that I have described.

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Honestly, he sounds immature. How old is he if I may ask? Perhaps his Aqua sun is being playful in a friendly way with her, but his Mars Cap is bringing out his mean, almost sinister side.

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Really, really young. I think it's quite apparent that he is an immature Aqua at this point of time to me but during those moments when we philosophise, he has shown that he is indeed mature, despite his actions showing otherwise. I don't condone his actions but I guess you just can't tame young guys so I'm not even going to try to right there. He also teases me and tells me that she is probably going to come and get me whenever she realises that we're spending time together again. Super mean to her in general!

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Also, I am sensing you don't like this attention he is giving to her despite him being 'mean' to her? Leo sun personality likes to have that attention on them most of the time...But, sensing from you have shared thus far, it looks like he does have feelings for you as well, but you have to initiate first, then once he has that 'safety net' to fall into, he will also give his feelings for you a go!

Good luck dibsy!

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Thank you! You have been super helpful thus far. Yes, I don't disagree - my attention-seeking Leo sun is something that I am learning to handle by channeling that need for attention into other aspects of my life where it is appropriate - such as recognition for great work or an initiative. Guess I've learned the hard way that a lady shouldn't ever try to find validation or her self-worth from another guy, hehe.

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I want to emphasize that Aquas REALLY value friendships FIRST. So it might be smart and an advantage at your end to sit with the friendship, develop both your bonds more further and deeper, THEN maybe he will be comfortable taking the connection to the next step. Just be easy on him, don't force anything.. go with the floow and most importantly ENJOY being best of friends! But if you cannot wait lol, then make that move girl! [/B]

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So this is where it gets kind of funny. I am getting a lot of mixed signals from the fella. So I generally have a hundred things running through my mind on a daily basis that sometimes, I just unintentionally ignore Aqua here. Or that I will be up to something else and Aqua is uninvited, not unintentionally. In such cases he usually demands my attention. The next moment, he is back to his aloof self.

I have come to the point where I am able to identify when he is testing me because we think so alike so when it happens I just ignore him because I figured that it isn't worth my energy to overreact. Except in one instance.

One of the things I am trying to figure out now is whether or not he is testing me when he talks about me getting married. The nature of the convo is such that he would talk about him wondering whom I would marry in his usual detached Aqua fashion - so a general friend-to-friend convo. I take it at a surface, very friend-to-friend level.

The thing that makes me question his interest is that he is generally willing to put up with my occasional nonsense and take random crazy trips with me. Generally he just hangs around me a lot lately more than so. He has once told me that he actually cares whether I believe it or not (whether as a friend or something more - I can't ascertain) because he was willing to go out at odd hours after I crashed emotionally - I wasn't a mess outside and while I was turbulent on the inside, I discussed it very calmly. He told me that he really didn't want to go out at that point of time but that he would do it for me, and I believe that he was quite tired from overworking. He overworks, we both generally do. His intensity in spending time with me increased after this incident. He also became slightly more caring in the questions he asks me (this as well, I don't know enough to know if he does this to everyone). I'm not sure if it's my imagination but his tone while asking me those questions became... slightly more tender. Though he is still aloof, which I find really amusing.

I'm not planning to pursue anything more at this stage, I'm quite comfortable where we are and to be honest, sometimes I feel like a Venus in Aqua because confessing at this stage would freak me out more than him! Generally quite comfortable with where we stand as good friends and with all that space (even though when I think about it, there isn't much space because all we do is hang out with each other in our spare time).

I know that this question would probably be better addressed by just getting it from the horse's mouth but I really don't feel ready to confess this point (I usually would confess to get it out of my system), hehe. Just wondering what you folks here would make of this.

posted May 18, 2015 12:34 PM            

Whilst it's ok to have moments of doubts, insecurities, non-clarity (hey, we are humans aye?) ... the solution or the bigger picture is truly knowing where you stand and your worth when it comes to relationships. It's also a great lesson to know who you are and have a sense of healthy identity. That's what relationships are for, to become aware of these things!

It seems that the two of you are very cute together, sensing intuitively here. Again, really enjoy your friendship and the rest will come into place!

**I had to laugh there for a second when you mentioned his indirect way of asking you questions. .. I so do the same thing! Aquas are scientists in this game.. we like to find out every hypothesis out there ... indirectly LOL

posted May 18, 2015 06:18 PM            

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Actually he's so comfortable sometimes I wonder if I have ended up in the friendzone. LOL.

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posted May 22, 2015 12:57 PM            

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Also wants me to be around alllll the time. Even when I'm busy he insists that I go out and see him. Quite forceful about this too but I usually say no. Is this Venus and Mars Cap at work? Also chats me up allllll the time.

Sometimes I get quite annoyed. Doesn't mean I like him any less though. Isn't this unusual for an Aqua though - they usually like to be alone, no?

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Capricorn is an earthly sign, so they tend to be mellow and relaxed. Not sure if this is his Venus/Mars Cap doing this.

The only thing I can think of is maybe he is aiming you as his goal, but he doesn't know how to express this in a healthy manner, so that's why he seem to be aggressive.

Perhaps when he wants it NOW or else is because he is still quiet young and perhaps inexperienced how to talk to girls and relationships. Communicate with him how you feel about this and see what he says.

Personally as an Aqua Sun, yes I do like my alone time or time to detach from people, but that's only when it's imperative that I detach. Seems as though nothing critical has happened between the two of you? ie. fight, unsaid dramas etc