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Kannon McAfee
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posted May 20, 2015 03:23 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Kannon McAfee     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Ami Anne:
Kannon if I have nessus at 20 Taurus, does this fit in there? Thanks so much!

I don't do asteroids. Chiron is the only exception. So I'm not the one to ask on that.

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posted May 20, 2015 03:26 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Kannon McAfee     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Bluejay:
I've been curious about the declinations too. What if my Sun is square my Ascendant, but they are also parallel? My Nodal axis is also conjunct and parallel my AC/DC axis How would a square in longitude and a parallel in declinations be interpreted?

My wife has a similar situation. This happens when fixed signs are involved (Sun, Asc). The planet making a square and parallel (because both Asc and planet are in same hemisphere of declination - north or south) can be interpreted as a particularly strong parallel -- much like a very close conjunction in longitude.

However, it is quite possible that your Asc is simply not accurate as-is and this aspect is not actually operating in your chart. Sun parallel and square Asc is an aspect of a dominant, vigorous, stellar sort of personality. Physically strong constitution, probably athletic, etc.

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posted May 20, 2015 03:42 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Gemmi     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Very interesting. Do the same rules apply to transits as well? I mean, can transiting Pluto parallel natal Sun?

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posted May 20, 2015 04:25 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for YellowGerbera     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Peluches:
Parallels and contra-parallels can be compared to conjunctions and oppositions. They act the same way, but they're stronger ; and they have even more influence when the planets involved already share an aspect in the charts (longitudes).[/B]

They are stronger? Woo! Didn't know this!

I share quite a few parallels and contra-parallels with my last guy. He's like a comet, buzzing around me ever since we met prolly cuz his Vx axis my his nodal axis are in contra-parallel.. Something is always keeping us seek for each other....

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posted May 20, 2015 05:06 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Bluejay     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Kannon McAfee:
My wife has a similar situation. This happens when fixed signs are involved (Sun, Asc). The planet making a square and parallel (because both Asc and planet are in same hemisphere of declination - north or south) can be interpreted as a particularly strong parallel -- much like a very close conjunction in longitude.

However, it is quite possible that your Asc is simply not accurate as-is and this aspect is not actually operating in your chart. Sun parallel and square Asc is an aspect of a dominant, vigorous, stellar sort of personality. Physically strong constitution, probably athletic, etc.


Thank you for the explanation. I didn't really know how to interpret it since I'm a Scorpio Sun square Aquarius Ascendant, and I wasn't sure how the parallel would operate. My birthtime is correct...from memory my Mom was just a few minutes off, and it was later confirmed via my birth certificate.

I wouldn't consider myself athletic, although I am strong for my small frame. I am definitely a dominant personality. I've always been very independent in my thinking. I do try to be open minded, but I trust my own judgement above all else. I also have Mars out of bounds, and exactly sextile my Ascendant. I am often told that on first impression I'm very intimidating, which I find laughable, because I would not be intimidated by someone that looks like me. I have Moon conjunct Pluto too, so I know that adds intensity that makes a lot of people uncomfortable.

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posted May 20, 2015 09:24 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Seimei     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Kannon McAfee:
I don't do asteroids. Chiron is the only exception. So I'm not the one to ask on that.


You can see here
the link below show declination of nessus on
June 15 ,2015 00Hour gmt,
so just change date and time to that of your chart, remembering to allow for difference in time zones.
If you do not have a planet tightly aspecting an asteroid like Nessus (slow moving) I wouldn't give much weight to it in declination.
However this is how and where you can check any asteroid.

http://www.true-node.com/eph1/?inputNumber=nessus&day=1&month=6&year=2015&time=00%3A00%3A00&zone=GMT+0&interval_num=1&interval=day&lines=1&.submit=Get+Ephemeris&calendar=Gregorian& zodiac=Tropical&origin=Geocentric&lighttime=Apparent&clock=Universal+Time&zodsec=D%B0M&longitude=on&declination=on


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Be sure to copy the whole link into an empty address bar.

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posted May 20, 2015 11:07 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Peluches     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by YellowGerbera:
They are stronger? Woo! Didn't know this!

I share quite a few parallels and contra-parallels with my last guy. He's like a comet, buzzing around me ever since we met prolly cuz his Vx axis my his nodal axis are in contra-parallel.. Something is always keeping us seek for each other....


VX in hard aspect to the NODES is very strong for the VX person especially

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posted May 20, 2015 11:08 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ami Anne     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Thanks for the links, S!

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posted May 21, 2015 03:25 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Aries23Degrees     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Where have I been all this time?

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posted May 21, 2015 06:25 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for EmGem     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
they are so much fun!

natally I have sun/mercury/venus/jupiter parallel

in synastry its where **** starts getting real.

we have:

my pluto parallel his sun/moon/venus/juno/SN/eros
my venus parallel his mars
my sun parallel his mars
my moon parallel his sun
my NN parallel his pluto
my lilith parallel his chiron/DSC
his VX contra parallels my sun/merc/venus/jupiter

among others lol

FUN!


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posted May 21, 2015 10:17 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ami Anne     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Bluejay:
I've been curious about the declinations too. What if my Sun is square my Ascendant, but they are also parallel? My Nodal axis is also conjunct and parallel my AC/DC axis How would a square in longitude and a parallel in declinations be interpreted?

Yes, I am not this far yet but the weighting of it seems hard and that it would take time to feel out. Is that true, Kannon?

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posted May 21, 2015 01:38 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Peluches     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by EmGem:
they are so much fun!

natally I have sun/mercury/venus/jupiter parallel

in synastry its where **** starts getting real.

we have:

my pluto parallel his sun/moon/venus/juno/SN/eros
my venus parallel his mars
my sun parallel his mars
my moon parallel his sun
my NN parallel his pluto
my lilith parallel his chiron/DSC
his VX contra parallels my sun/merc/venus/jupiter

among others lol

FUN!


All under 1° ? Wow !

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posted May 21, 2015 04:49 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for YellowGerbera     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Peluches:
VX in hard aspect to the NODES is very strong for the VX person especially

Just realized my english was horrible in my reply! So sorry! Damn phone view! lol

Wow... Interesting!
Very happy to hear this actually

This hopeless romantic wishes that he will be back in her arms one day for good! Hehehe

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posted May 21, 2015 05:37 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for EmGem     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Peluches:
All under 1° ? Wow !

sun/moon i gave 1.2* since its the luminaries.
sun/mars and mars/venus i stretched to 1.5* coz i'm naughty
but all the rest are pretty much under 1*

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posted May 21, 2015 07:05 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Kannon McAfee     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Ami, how long it takes each person to integrate declinations into their practice is very much an individual thing. If you are referring to how long it takes each time to look at the declination data set and include it each time, it gets smoother and quicker with practice. At first the tendency is to want to truncate a full survey of all declination factors in favor of picking a standout (like OOB/out of bounds planets), but eventually you can get comfortable with seeing that all planets/points have two sets of coordinates. That is the only way we locate anything and its the only way to be certain of a full interpretation.

As to your declination parallels...

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Sun [23N26] is parallel Mars [23N29] and Pluto [22N53] ... Moon 22N is parallel Uranus 21N26 which is parallel Venus 20N56.

These parallels in north declination are very powerful in not only what planets they include in these two alignments, but in the (+)north alignment, this is tends one to develop influence in the outer world. The north/+ positions, especially in the extremes of declination (near/at 23> ) tend to have a stronger influence in the outer world.

The (-)south positions have a dynamic of receptiveness, playing out more in the personal/private life. (This is why it can be helpful for people to understand their prog Moon cycle in declination; big difference between it progressing through north vs south declination.)

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posted May 21, 2015 07:07 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Kannon McAfee     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Gemmi:
Very interesting. Do the same rules apply to transits as well? I mean, can transiting Pluto parallel natal Sun?

Yes, absolutely.

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posted May 21, 2015 07:13 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ami Anne     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
You are amazing, Kannon!

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posted May 22, 2015 10:00 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ami Anne     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
For Kannon or Anyone who is kind enough to help

Am I doing this right?

I went to Astro.com and got additional tables.

One has declinations. My Sun seems to be conjunct my Moon.

Pluto seems to be conjunct my Moon and Sun, too.

Here is an example of the numbers. Am I doing the Sun and Moon right?

Sun is declincation 23 etc etc

Moon is declination 22 etc etc

Are these parallel, which would be like a conjunction?

Thanks so much!!

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Kannon McAfee
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posted May 23, 2015 01:09 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Kannon McAfee     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Ami Anne:
For Kannon or Anyone who is kind enough to help ...
... My Sun seems to be conjunct my Moon.

Pluto seems to be conjunct my Moon and Sun, too.


Yes, but parallel. A different term is used since these can make a very different appearance in the sky.

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Sun is declincation 23 etc etc

Moon is declination 22 etc etc

Are these parallel, which would be like a conjunction?


Yes.

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