posted May 23, 2015 03:08 PM            

On the declinations, I have Pluto at 22N, the Sun at 23 N,Moon at 22 N, Venus at 20 N, Jupiter at 20 N and NN at 23.

I have always felt very Scorpio like, even though I am a Gemini Sun, Mercury and Venus with a Cancer Moon and Libra ASC.

I have no Scorpio planets except Saturn in the 2nd House.

Am I really a strong Scorpio? Thanks so much

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posted May 24, 2015 08:46 AM            

So, is it a good way to get more information to study l Pluto conj the Sun and Moon to understand this more, even though the parallel is different from the conjunction. Would this still help to understand it some?

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posted May 24, 2015 02:06 PM            

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Originally posted by Ami Anne:
Thank you, Kannon. I feel like I am coming home!

So, is it a good way to get more information to study l Pluto conj the Sun and Moon to understand this more, even though the parallel is different from the conjunction. Would this still help to understand it some?

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Absolutely. The interpretation is the same. That is exactly how I reference other trusted authors' work in dealing with the interpretation of declination aspects.

This discovery you've made of these parallels reveals the real dominant core of your chart. Your chart is a perfect example of one in which about 70% of the real story is found in the declinations. Its not that the flat-wheel chart is wrong, just incomplete -- by a long shot for you.

posted May 24, 2015 02:14 PM            

Why, for me, is the answer found in the parallels?

Because they are so intense?

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posted May 24, 2015 02:55 PM            

2. If a person comes to you, how to you coordinate the two charts--- normal 2D, shall we say and parallel.

How do you weight them?

For one person is the 2D chart the main one for info and for another person, it is the parallels?

Thanks so much for your help, Kannon!

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posted May 24, 2015 06:25 PM            

Some charts' aspects and core energies are found more in the declinations because of parallels or contra-parallels.

I always include the declinations for every chart. Sometimes a person will have no parallel or contra-parallels in their chart. But most often there are aspects there that fill out the story and help answer questions the flat wheel chart cannot.

For example, a person who strongly relates to Neptune, but it is making no significant aspects in the flat wheel longitude chart. But when you look at the declinations it is parallel the Asc. That information is too important to leave out.

posted May 24, 2015 10:13 PM            

Awesome, K

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posted May 25, 2015 11:24 AM            

This is so true.

Sun Parallel Pluto

You thrive on intensity. There are deep wellsprings of strength and mystery within you that only seem to gain fulfillment through long protracted struggles. Much of your fighting in life is inner and unconscious. This can surface as allegorical reactions to people or things in your environment. You invoke strong responses from others, everything from ignoring you to direct challenging of you, to wanting to assist you. When you get personal you get focused and your persistence can be a real asset.

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posted May 25, 2015 10:52 PM            

My question is about the IC. Can the planets/asteroids that are parallel to the IC tell the story of your childhood.

Thanks again, Kannon!

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posted May 27, 2015 01:37 PM            

People who have difficult or abusive childhoods most often have parallels/conjunctions, oppositions/contra-parallels, squares to Asc and/or MC by Saturn, Pluto, Uranus, or Mars.

People who are adopted, similar, but often with the aspects involving Moon or Neptune.

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posted May 27, 2015 06:28 PM            

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Originally posted by Ami Anne:
When you do charts for people, how do you do them, Kannon? Thanks! I may be interested

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Not really sure how to answer that since I'm unsure if you are asking about my process or about how I interpret or what. It varies from client to client, depending on what the present to me.

The data is very important to have specific and to verify with documents, etc. I generally like to verify the accuracy of the chart's Asc sign and degree down to the minute of arc first. Then I know the chart is accurate for both natal interpretation and progressions. However, if I'm not doing a pre-validation/rectification procedure, then I will work with the chart as-is IF the person says they fit the sign on the Asc, and proceed with interpretation from there.

If your question pertains mostly to declinations, I tend to check declinations first simply because the tendency in modern astrology to be too dependent in the circle chart. Astrologers get too comfortable navigating it, so I compensate by looking at the declinations first. In a few charts the declinations aren't very significant, so I then switch my focus to the circle chart.

I never interpret anything to do with relationships or vocation/career without the verification of the Asc and interpretation of factors in longitude/circle chart and declinations.

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posted May 27, 2015 06:56 PM            

In your experience with charts, do most people have the declinations more significant than the traditional circle? How does it play out, in your experience?

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posted May 27, 2015 07:46 PM            

I don't know what the percentage would be, but a significant percentage of people have important parallels or contra-parallels (declinations) that fill in gaps in the circle chart and answer questions it doesn't answer. For example, a young woman who has difficulty getting pregnant and/or who has had miscarriages. The declinations show Moon parallel Saturn, whereas the longitude aspects in the circle chart give no suggestion of such things. This person needs to learn to breathe deeper, relax, destress, put up some boundaries perhaps to familial interference and she may be able to get pregnant in due time. I could not give that advice without seeing that specific aspect in declination. Its just not there in the circle chart. That's not a (Moon) sign thing, because signs may increase likelihood of some tendencies, but they don't give me specific information like aspects to the Moon.

posted May 27, 2015 08:25 PM            

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Originally posted by EmGem:
sorry to cut in here, Kannon, so does a moon conjunct saturn possibly indiacate infertility? that may explain a lot in my case.

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That is cool. I am loving picking Kannon's brain

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posted May 29, 2015 01:44 PM            

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Originally posted by Randall:
Smart guy!

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Very

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posted May 29, 2015 03:53 PM            

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Originally posted by EmGem:
sorry to cut in here, Kannon, so does a moon conjunct saturn possibly indiacate infertility? that may explain a lot in my case.

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That is basic to the symbology of Moon (female reproductive system, uterus) + Saturn (challenges, delays). I'm not saying it equates to infertility, but generally delayed fertility -- timing.

posted May 29, 2015 04:03 PM            

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Originally posted by Ceridwen:
Ami,

it was very enlightening to me as well to find out that my Moon is parallel Uranus (0°22) and contraparallel Pluto (0°35).
Certainly threw an interesting light on my pretty unaspected Moon (in longitudes).

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Wow, those are close, Ceri! How do you feel them?

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posted May 29, 2015 04:48 PM            

But I think it`s both there in my emotional life. The analytical detachment and independence of the Uranus vibe, as well as the passion and focus and depth that comes with Pluto. of course the contradiction is sometimes quite diffiult to juggle.

But in a way it might be hereditary.

My Mom has a Sun in Scorpio with ASC in Cancer and Uranus conjunct ASC.

My Dad has a Sun in Aquarius with Venus also in Aquarius, opposing Pluto, and Moon in Taurus in 8th house.

They both have a bit of that Uranus-Pluto-vibe as well, so it probably is not a surprise that I was born with it as well.