posted May 25, 2015 12:08 PM            

One of the lessons of a Pisces NN is to let go of anxiety, overanalysis, trying to get things 'just right', worrying over small details. We're supposed to learn that things are perfect as they are, instead of constantly trying to 'make them perfect' or feeling anxious/unhappy when they are not 'perfect' according to our mental image and expectations.

Personally, I certainly struggle with this.

So this link which a friend of mine shared on FB served as a great illustration to me of what this lesson really means.

What Would We Look Like With Perfectly Symmetrical Faces?

It's a very simple but powerful experiment, considering the Virgo-like obsession with symmetry in physical appearance in our current culture. It shows that even if you achieve the 'perfect state' that you envisioned, it's actually not perfect at all and things were fine as they were. Since this kind of anxiety can extend to all areas in life, not just physical appearance, I think this experiment is a great metaphor for what it means to 'let things be'.

posted May 25, 2015 05:12 PM            

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Originally posted by SaturnFan:

One of the lessons of a Pisces NN is to let go of anxiety, overanalysis, trying to get things 'just right', worrying over small details. We're supposed to learn that things are perfect as they are, instead of constantly trying to 'make them perfect' or feeling anxious/unhappy when they are not 'perfect' according to our mental image and expectations.

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If I do that at work then I get blamed for it and people are unhappy, so I can't. If I have that attitude at school then I don't get the grades I want. If I "relax" with people then they treat me poorly. I have Pisces NN but I'm not sure relaxing is always the way to go with it. I have definitely experienced anxiety...(and I can grant that I overthink everything, ugh try having Gemini ASC AND Virgo NN) when I don't have control over things! Are there other interpretations or examples for Pisces NN besides going with the flow? It's the most common one I've seen and there just has to be other ways it manifests.

posted May 25, 2015 05:33 PM            

Exercise your will with clear intention, and without attachment to the results. In fact, you can let intention replace attachment.

Receive the results, examine them, learn from them, and accept them.

...and then exercise your will again, with a new lesson learned- another notch on your belt.

Signed,

posted May 25, 2015 05:40 PM            

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Originally posted by SaturnFan:
Someone shared a link on FB today, which reminded me of one of the lessons of the Pisces NN - Virgo SN axis, because it feels like a perfect illustration of it.

One of the lessons of a Pisces NN is to let go of anxiety, overanalysis, trying to get things 'just right', worrying over small details. We're supposed to learn that things are perfect as they are, instead of constantly trying to 'make them perfect' or feeling anxious/unhappy when they are not 'perfect' according to our mental image and expectations.

Personally, I certainly struggle with this.

So this link which a friend of mine shared on FB served as a great illustration to me of what this lesson really means.

What Would We Look Like With Perfectly Symmetrical Faces?

It's a very simple but powerful experiment, considering the Virgo-like obsession with symmetry in physical appearance in our current culture. It shows that even if you achieve the 'perfect state' that you envisioned, it's actually not perfect at all and things were fine as they were. Since this kind of anxiety can extend to all areas in life, not just physical appearance, I think this experiment is a great metaphor for what it means to 'let things be'.

If you have any similar examples, it would be great if you share them!

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Like that link SaturnFan. "Perfection" is kind of creepy eh?

posted May 25, 2015 08:10 PM            

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Originally posted by venus2tinkerbell:
Another good word is [b]acceptance.

Exercise your will with clear intention, and without attachment to the results. In fact, you can let intention replace attachment.

Receive the results, examine them, learn from them, and accept them.

...and then exercise your will again, with a new lesson learned- another notch on your belt.

Signed,

Pisces SN[/B]

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posted May 25, 2015 08:19 PM            

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Originally posted by SaturnFan:
One of the lessons of a Pisces NN is to let go of anxiety, overanalysis, trying to get things 'just right', worrying over small details. We're supposed to learn that things are perfect as they are, instead of constantly trying to 'make them perfect' or feeling anxious/unhappy when they are not 'perfect' according to our mental image and expectations.

If you have any similar examples, it would be great if you share them!

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Yes, yes, yes! Ugh, this I really relate to. The funny thing is that I am very accepting and often too forgiving of others, yet I cannot forgive myself easily. I tell people all the same 'oh you are great, don't worry,' but then I'll talk to myself and its like 'LOL, you loser.'

posted May 26, 2015 09:58 AM            

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Originally posted by bansheequeen:

Famous Pisces Kurt cobain

For me, I was raised to believe that I had to be perfect, and that I could always be improved and that I needed to work hard and not enjoy myself. But I come to realize that is completely stupid. Why waste your life trying to be perfect? No one else cares if you are, you are only worrying to fulfill some kind of inner goal that no one else gives a **** about. Working hard is fine but if you are depressed and don't get to relax or have any fun at all, it's not worth it. For me, it's only worth it to work hard so you can have the money toe joy life as you want to.

Also I have Virgo rising so it's so hard to break out of Virgo habits. But that means I have Pisces desc so I want to dream and be free so so bad and I find that escape through relationships.

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Haha, lovely quote by Kurt Cobain!

posted May 26, 2015 10:02 AM            

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Originally posted by hannaramaa:
If I do that at work then I get blamed for it and people are unhappy, so I can't. If I have that attitude at school then I don't get the grades I want. If I "relax" with people then they treat me poorly. I have Pisces NN but I'm not sure relaxing is always the way to go with it. I have definitely experienced anxiety...(and I can grant that I overthink everything, ugh try having Gemini ASC AND Virgo NN) when I don't have control over things! Are there other interpretations or examples for Pisces NN besides going with the flow? It's the most common one I've seen and there just has to be other ways it manifests.

^^ how's that for overthinking small details and having anxiety

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I think a Virgo SN can be (and should be) used for doing things well, taking care of details etc. Ideally, we should be living the 'highest' expression of our SN, in combination with thriving to fulfil our NN. I feel our Pisces NN lesson of 'letting things be' is best used in the larger themes of life (is my career going ok, is my relationship going ok, when will I meet someone, etc. etc. etc. - I think a fulfilled Pisces NN would not feel anxious over these things and just let them unfold naturally). The Virgo SN can be really, really useful in managing day-to-day things and doing your job well.

posted May 26, 2015 10:04 AM            

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Originally posted by venus2tinkerbell:
Another good word is acceptance.

Exercise your will with clear intention, and without attachment to the results. In fact, you can let intention replace attachment.

Receive the results, examine them, learn from them, and accept them.

...and then exercise your will again, with a new lesson learned- another notch on your belt.

Signed,

Pisces SN

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BEAUTIFULLY put, Venus!

Thank you so much! Who could explain it better than a Pisces SN

posted May 26, 2015 10:11 AM            

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Originally posted by BellaFenice:
Yes, yes, yes! Ugh, this I really relate to. The funny thing is that I am very accepting and often too forgiving of others, yet I cannot forgive myself easily. I tell people all the same 'oh you are great, don't worry,' but then I'll talk to myself and its like 'LOL, you loser.'

I think for me most of it is career related, I feel I haven't done enough and lately it is more about the fact I do not feel spiritually content with my profession. Money is obviously important, but you have to love what you do as well.

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Same here! Every single word in your post could have been written by me

posted May 26, 2015 02:11 PM            

Have you seen this website? It was posted on another thread. The articles are really long (violation of copyright) and I haven't read the Pisces NN.

One of the things, surrendering anxiety to a higher power is spot on. But, I have found that what works for me requires training the mind. Observing my thoughts from moment to moment. When a negative thought arises, I immediately replace it with an affirmation or a line of poetry, something inspiring. I don't give these thoughts oxygen. They don't get food and eventually the anxiety producing parts of me starve. It's taken some time but it's worked!

I've also found breathing exercises dispel anxiety also.
http://north-node.tumblr.com/

posted May 27, 2015 12:36 AM            

I stumbled upon this link a few days ago, it seems to have been published online very recently. It's amazing! The Aquarius NN - Leo SN is spot on (I started with that one first, and them moved onto my own NN but haven't finished reading it yet). I think I'll buy the book, since this tumblr blog will most probably be taken down sooner or later due to the violation.

Thank you so much for the advice! Mastering your thoughts like this requires a lot of discipline, and I think learning meditation is especially important for people with a Pisces NN.

It's funny when you think about it, we supposedly have one of the most difficult NN placements, and our main lesson is to learn that everything is already just fine It shouldn't be that hard!

posted May 31, 2015 08:02 PM            

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Originally posted by hannaramaa:
I don't mean to oppose every thought here, because I do agree on some level, but can Pisces do anything with clarity?

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See, I think this is where the Virgo SN has an advantage. I would think clarity and decisiveness is one of the skills you all have developed, so after you have made your clear intention the biggest struggle in my mind would be your attachments.

As a Pisces SN all my skills at letting go have just lead to confusion. I have to commit to something

...but to me it all seems too important, and at the same time so very unimportant, that choosing any one something in this life to rest my precious heart on seems like a waste of my love...( I'm wondering if this is arrogance Pisces style, or just my own special brand)

I have been evolving though. Lately I have been thinking of the spiritual growth/path of impeccability, mastery, discipline- the beauty of application. The everything and the nothing are meaningless without the one little something

lol- I am imagining all you Virgo SNs reading my crazy talk, and thinking, 'oh no! Is this what I'm supposed to be moving toward?' No. Don't worry. thiz just me.

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Suppose I have the belief that it'll be a lucky opportunity for me because Jupiter squares my MC and sits in my 12th house, so that gives it a more Sagittarius vibe...maybe?

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I don't know astrology well enough to know if you're being serious or not

If you are, yeah! Good stuff.

If you're not, ha ha. LOL

LOL

posted May 31, 2015 08:08 PM            

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Originally posted by SaturnFan:
BEAUTIFULLY put, Venus!

Thank you so much! Who could explain it better than a Pisces SN

I'll try to practice this - it's hard, but attachment to expectations and outcomes turns out to be even harder

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Saturn, you impress me. You have a very logical and organized mind, and yet you do not seem attached to your order or distracted by people, events and things that do not fit into that order. Your SN skills are your skills. They don't define you.

posted June 01, 2015 04:50 AM            

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Originally posted by venus2tinkerbell:
lol- I am imagining all you Virgo SNs reading my crazy talk, and thinking, 'oh no! Is this what I'm supposed to be moving toward?' No. Don't worry. thiz just me.

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Hahaha... I love you, Venus.

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Originally posted by venus2tinkerbell:
Saturn, you impress me. You have a very logical and organized mind, and yet you do not seem attached to your order or distracted by people, events and things that do not fit into that order. Your SN skills are your skills. They don't define you.

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