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posted May 26, 2015 08:22 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for polkadotstars     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I have been close with a guy (Libra Sun, Capricorn Moon, Scorpio Venus, Sag Mars) for about a month now, we talk every day, we have hung out many times, and despite his Cap Moon, he started to open up a lot to me and tell me things he doesn't tell many people. On Saturday we finally kissed which led to more than that.

Now, he is being sort of distant and said he feels bad because he usually has control over his emotions and desires, but he lost it on Saturday. Is this normal for a Capricorn Moon? I'm feeling really upset about him acting distant.

We have amazing synastry (Mars in 5th house DW) which is below, in addition to the fact that I think maybe we have had a past life connection, as his South Node conjuncts my Saturn.


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posted May 26, 2015 09:16 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Doux Rêve     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Give him some space, perhaps he's falling for you and it scares him. He probably needs time to reflect on things and "cool off" a little.

That synastry looks really good, I'm sure he'll come around.

Don't forget he has a Venus/Saturn conjunction (more Saturn energy), so love is definitely not a light-hearted matter to him - he's serious about it, and doesn't want to invest himself in something if he thinks it's not entirely safe and he won't get hurt.

It may take him some time to truly trust you and be consistent with you, and I think it's up to you to "prove" him that your intentions are honest and you really want to be with him (hopefully that won't scare him away either).

I wish you the best of luck!

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posted May 26, 2015 09:24 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Aries23Degrees     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I think he wants to come across as someone cool,calm and collected.

Someone very much in control of his emotions and he may see that showing emotions is a suggestion of a possible character "flaw" or "weakness".

If his Sun is in square aspect with the Moon, this is likely not the 1st time this has happened. It's likely a life "issue" that he battles with.

I think you should allow him space to save face. Don't talk about that moment when he "exposed" himself to you. But just go general and discuss everything and anything else.

I think he just wants to regain his dignity in your eyes- Caps care a lot about their reputation. So lend him space to do that.

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posted May 26, 2015 09:49 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for polkadotstars     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Doux Rêve:
Give him some space, perhaps he's falling for you and it scares him. He probably needs time to reflect on things and "cool off" a little.

That synastry looks really good, I'm sure he'll come around.

Don't forget he has a Venus/Saturn conjunction (more Saturn energy), so love is definitely not a light-hearted matter to him - he's serious about it, and doesn't want to invest himself in something if he thinks it's not entirely safe and he won't get hurt.

It may take him some time to truly trust you and be consistent with you, and I think it's up to you to "prove" him that your intentions are honest and you really want to be with him (hopefully that won't scare him away either).

I wish you the best of luck!


Oh wow I didn't even notice his Venus Saturn conjunction.

I'm just giving him space and hopefully he'll come back around...

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posted May 26, 2015 09:51 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for polkadotstars     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Aries23Degrees:
I think he wants to come across as someone cool,calm and collected.

Someone very much in control of his emotions and he may see that showing emotions is a suggestion of a possible character "flaw" or "weakness".

If his Sun is in square aspect with the Moon, this is likely not the 1st time this has happened. It's likely a life "issue" that he battles with.

I think you should allow him space to save face. Don't talk about that moment when he "exposed" himself to you. But just go general and discuss everything and anything else.

I think he just wants to regain his dignity in your eyes- Caps care a lot about their reputation. So lend him space to do that.


Thank you so much for your input. My Pisces moon in 8th wants to help everyone through their issues, but I know I need to give him space and not dwell on anything that has happened...

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posted May 26, 2015 10:28 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for SaturnFan     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I have a Cap Stellium (Sun, Mercury, Neptune) trine Taurus Moon so maybe my perspective could help too.

Displaying emotions and passion when still feeling that things are at an early stage, is unthinkable You say that after 1 month you 'finally kissed' - in 'Capricorn-land' 1 month flies by very quickly. Great catch on Venus conjunct Saturn too - he's definitely a slow mover in romance. To him, this all happened very quickly. So it's a good thing that it happened, it means he feels strongly about you - he just needs to arrive at this conclusion on his own, which is why he retreats after having dropped his 'defences'- in order to reflect on what happened. When Capricorns act impulsively, they normally pull back in order to analyse why

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posted May 26, 2015 11:12 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for polkadotstars     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by SaturnFan:
I have a Cap Stellium (Sun, Mercury, Neptune) trine Taurus Moon so maybe my perspective could help too.

Displaying emotions and passion when still feeling that things are at an early stage, is unthinkable You say that after 1 month you 'finally kissed' - in 'Capricorn-land' 1 month flies by very quickly. Great catch on Venus conjunct Saturn too - he's definitely a slow mover in romance. To him, this all happened very quickly. So it's a good thing that it happened, it means he feels strongly about you - he just needs to arrive at this conclusion on his own, which is why he retreats after having dropped his 'defences'- in order to reflect on what happened. When Capricorns act impulsively, they normally pull back in order to analyse why


Ah, thank you! That really helped me understand the Capricorn mentality. I really hope that he does feel strongly about me. I have a feeling that he does, just that he's holding back from emerging himself in it.

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posted May 26, 2015 11:54 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for bluestskies88     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Polka,

Are you an Aqua sun? Looks like you are really on the cusp into Pisces.

Regarding your Cappy moon guy, it's very crucial to give him space. If you are an Aqua sun gal, you will want things to go as fast as they can, but that is not how things work in Cappy land. I am sharing this with you from experience. Trust me, give him space, allow him to make up his own mind and don't push him, most especially in this very beginning stages.

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It's only been less than 3 days! It's understandable you are a bit anxious because he's detached since your last meeting, but Cappy or not, this is just how most guys react in these situations. Try to relax, he'll be back

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posted May 26, 2015 12:17 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for polkadotstars     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by bluestskies88:
Polka,

Are you an Aqua sun? Looks like you are really on the cusp into Pisces.

Regarding your Cappy moon guy, it's very crucial to give him space. If you are an Aqua sun gal, you will want things to go as fast as they can, but that is not how things work in Cappy land. I am sharing this with you from experience. Trust me, give him space, allow him to make up his own mind and don't push him, most especially in this very beginning stages.

P.S.

It's only been less than 3 days! It's understandable you are a bit anxious because he's detached since your last meeting, but Cappy or not, this is just how most guys react in these situations. Try to relax, he'll be back


Thank you!

I am actually a Pisces sun, moon, and Mercury with Venus and Mars in Aries. I think the Aries placements are what make me impatient.

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posted May 26, 2015 12:23 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for charlie     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I have a Cap Moon op Venus and Saturn. Venus/Saturn conjunct. I have never cared much about saving face other than to try and redeem myself from mistakes made. The times I've needed space and been distant has been because I've not been sure what to make of person or situation so I'll dwell and weigh options and outcomes. Sadly, for me, this dwelling has always ended in me not showing up again, at least not sexually/emotionally. I do have Venus sq Uranus too though which makes things worse!

This might not be your guy's way but I thought I'd add my 2 cents anyway.

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posted May 26, 2015 12:39 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for peony     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Hi Polkadotstars,

Cap Moons especially do not like feeling out of control and as you are seeing, want to keep a tight lid on their emotions.

I recognize the behavior. The guy I'm seeing has the same Sun, Moon, Venus, and Mars placements, plus Saturn in Libra. He tends to retreat and think about things. A Venus-Saturn conjunction is particularly vulnerable on the feeling side. My guess is there's a battle going on between his feelings, and these placements which want to remain in control. It's interesting that he's attracted to you, a double Pisces with a Venus-Mars conjunction in Aries. He gets to learn about the emotional side of him that's been kept under wraps.

There's probably a transit he's having that's reflecting on this situation, maybe the Pluto in Capricorn on his Moon, depending on the degree of his Moon, but that would do it.

Like others are saying, the best thing to do is to try and not take it personally, give him the time and space he needs, and be consistent with your love. In the meantime, focus on you, work on yourself and being a wonderful person.

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posted May 26, 2015 05:14 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for polkadotstars     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Thank you all so much. Maybe I was jumping the gun a bit, he seems back to normal now.
Getting a Capricorn moon to open up to you and trust being around you is definitely a painstakingly slow process..

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posted May 26, 2015 05:18 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for peony     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by polkadotstars:
Thank you all so much. Maybe I was jumping the gun a bit, he seems back to normal now.
Getting a Capricorn moon to open up to you and trust being around you is definitely a painstakingly slow process..

Don't I know it!

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posted May 26, 2015 05:36 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Astra     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
As a cap moon, I have to say that everyone here has given you great advice!

Cap moons take love very seriously, so they tend to move at a snail's pace in relationships. Always give them their space. He needs time to process his emotions so he can feel more under control. I've had exes that did not respect my need for space. As a result, they were promptly dumped.

Cap moons need space to breathe and reassess important events in their life. He is clearly taking you very seriously, so consider this a compliment!

As always, be respectful of his need for space and make sure that he treats you with respect as well.

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posted May 26, 2015 05:40 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for plutoandcap     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
[QUOTE]Originally posted by polkadotstars:
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Now, he is being sort of distant and said he feels bad because he usually has control over his emotions and desires, but he lost it on Saturday. Is this normal for a Capricorn Moon? I'm feeling really upset about him acting distant.
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i'm cap moon and venus in scorpio too

and i'm gonna tell you what i think this is which is = he's being hypercritical of himself and withdrawing because he doesn't approve of how he acts.

i don't know, but i hate it when i loose control .. unfortunately it happens too often even when i'm having fun or enjoying myself. after all is done and i'm on the way home i play things back frame by frame analysing how i acted, how people reacted and make a list of things i got to change. and sometimes i end up causing myself to be embarrassed of silly little things that others probably don't notice but i do and i want to never see them again because it reminds me of how i acted that time and now embarrassed i am of that behaviour and the fact that i lost control and let me self act like that.

it's a bit much i know but thats what i think it might be

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posted May 26, 2015 06:56 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Kannon McAfee     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by polkadotstars:
[B]I have been close with a guy (Libra Sun, Capricorn Moon, Scorpio Venus, Sag Mars) for about a month now, we talk every day, we have hung out many times, and despite his Cap Moon, he started to open up a lot to me and tell me things he doesn't tell many people. On Saturday we finally kissed which led to more than that.

Wonderful

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Now, he is being sort of distant and said he feels bad because he usually has control over his emotions and desires, but he lost it on Saturday. Is this normal for a Capricorn Moon?

Yes, this is pretty normal for a lot of people born with Moon in Cap.

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I'm feeling really upset about him acting distant.

I understand, but its probably not about you. Give him the chance to sort things out and feel comfortable with what you've stirred up inside him and remind yourself that it was you that stirred him up.

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We have amazing synastry (Mars in 5th house DW) which is below, in addition to the fact that I think maybe we have had a past life connection, as his South Node conjuncts my Saturn.

I see that partly in Moon-Jupiter conjunction between your charts. Very good. This holds lots of promise, as do ...
- His Jupiter conj your Neptune
- His Jupiter sextile your Pisces planets, incl. Mercury (important for communication)
- His sun opp your Venus-Mars tends to make me think he will remain interested in you

Your Pisces cluster of Sun-Moon-Mercury shows me you can also lend him great understanding and patience during his processing and in the early stages of your relationship.

Just know that with his S.Node conjunct your Saturn, the relationship may progress slowly. Reassure him that you aren't interested in controlling him or the pace of the relationship and you are interested in moving forward when he is ready. Then just allow it to happen. I'm confident it has a good chance based on this synastry.


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posted May 26, 2015 07:34 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for polkadotstars     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Wow Khannon, thank you so much for your thorough response! It gives me so much hope and makes me feel much better about the situation. Yes, my Pisces stellium is very patient and understanding. I feel in a way that I need to help him with his issues, he has a lot to overcome after returning from Afghanistan a few years ago. I just want to help him and be there for him. I don't want to rush him into anything, I just want to hold his hand along the way.

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posted May 26, 2015 08:00 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Odette     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Hi! Is his Moon definitely in Capricorn? It's very close to the cusp (less than one degree!)
Do you have his exact TOB?

I ask because in my experience.. Aquarius Mooners more commonly end up getting close to Pisces Mooners.

Capricorn and Pisces Moons - can have some issues, that are not always easily overcome.
I've asked about the Cap-Pisces Moon relationship previously on LL - and other people's experiences didn't seem much more positive than mine.
My Moon is in Cap btw.

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posted May 26, 2015 08:17 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for polkadotstars     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I don't know his exact time of birth but he fits more of a Capricorn moon than Aquarius given his personality and background. On his date of birth, it changes to an Aquarius moon around 11am. So there is a limited number of rising signs he could be. After getting to know him, he strikes me as a Sagittarius ascendant. So with that reasoning I was able to come to his estimated birth time :-)

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posted May 26, 2015 08:47 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Odette     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Hmmm ok!
You can sometimes figure out a person’s Ascendant or Moon based on astrological descriptions you read… But, this is usually not as “accurate” as comparing them to actual people you know who have those placements.
Do you know any other Capricorn Mooners?
My gut feeling says you don’t

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posted May 26, 2015 08:56 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for polkadotstars     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
No I do not. Well I haven't really looked up many people's birth charts, so maybe I do, I just don't know it. I have just done research on what Aquarius moons and Capricorn moons are like. And Capricorn moon childhood sounds like it relates a lot to his childhood, etc.

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posted May 26, 2015 09:01 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Odette     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Ok.. This is just what I think, but obviously I don't know him and you've read a lot about this. So I may well be wrong!

Based on my experiences with these two Moon signs... imo.. at least in the initial stages, you probably wouldn't have such nice, sweet (or warm) feelings towards him, if he really did have a Capricorn Moon.

I wouldn't bet on it! lol... I'm not 100%...
But I'm "pretty sure" - I'll say that much!

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posted May 26, 2015 09:11 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for polkadotstars     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Odette:

Based on my experiences with these two Moon signs... imo.. at least in the initial stages, you probably wouldn't have such nice, sweet (or warm) feelings towards him, if he really did have a Capricorn Moon.

Haha! Why is that?

He isn't great at sharing his emotions. But I am very intuitive and I like to see that he has a lot under the surface. It's quite intriguing lol!

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posted May 26, 2015 09:41 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Odette     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Because... Ok... Again this is not an exact science - (so I can only go on what I've seen and experienced!) ... But usually there is a pattern to the way Pisces Moon-Capricorn Moon plays out.
And in the initial stages of that -relationships pattern- the Pisces Moon person is mostly fearful, apprehensive and distrusting of the Capricorn Moon.
And I mean "fearful" like - they run out of the room when the Capricorn Mooner is there, and refuse to make eye contact. So it's not just "slight" apprehension.

^ This does not happen between Pisces Moon and Aquarius Moon.

For some reason these two Moon signs (Pisces and Cap) don't see each other very clearly. It takes them a long while to warm up to each other and see the best in each other (even though they are sextile ).

Pisces Moon can see Capricorn Moon as cold, lacked in compassion/empathy for others, too critical and calculating, too quick to pick someone apart - before they've had a chance to listen to their story.. etc..
All sorts of negative things ^

(It really doesn't sound like you see him this way! ^^)

Capricorn Moon can see Pisces Moon as delusional and loopy.. Sometimes they start diagnosing Pisces Moon with mental illness - which may or may not be true - but which only serves to upset and annoy the Pisces Mooner further.

So yeah - in my experience.. this relationship is pretty tough.
As time goes on - they open up to each other and learn to appreciate the positive things about the other person - and they can develop a friendship.

But it just doesn't start out on such a positive note (as this connection you have with Libra guy seems to have started!)

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posted May 26, 2015 09:51 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Odette     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Also - If his Moon is in early Aquarius, it would still square his Pluto in Scorpio (which could point to a difficult childhood).
Capricorn Moon is not the only placement with difficult childhood experiences.

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