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Primarose220
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posted May 27, 2015 05:38 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Primarose220     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
What kind of sleep disorders would one have if they had their sun in gemini in the 6th house?

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posted June 04, 2015 05:35 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Randall     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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EmGem
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posted June 04, 2015 06:49 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for EmGem     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
ha! insomnia! i think its a gemini thing in general regardless of house.
we all THINK.TOO.MUCH!

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posted June 05, 2015 11:21 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for lalalinda     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
A sleep disorder suggests that Neptune is involved.
Is Gemini on the cusp of the sixth house?
Is Mercury in aspect to Neptune?

can you be more specific?

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posted June 06, 2015 05:25 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for next to neptune     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by lalalinda:
A sleep disorder suggests that Neptune is involved.
Is Gemini on the cusp of the sixth house?
Is Mercury in aspect to Neptune?

can you be more specific?



I have suffered from insomnia as long as I can think back...it comes in periods and it's luckily not every night, but far too often though... and I'm really not that type of person who just lay down and sleep instantly, I always have to lay for about half an hour before I sleep. And I can easily lay awake for 5 hours with racing thoughts, and then finally I give up and don't sleep at all for 2 days. It's very frustrating!!

And I have mercury square neptune exact, and a 6th house stellium. I think that gemini people just sleep less than others, they only need 5-6 hours where others need 7-8 hours. But virgo people worry too much about things and they think too much in general. It is both a very good thing to be a thinker, but can also be bad when you have to sleep!!

Also, the 6th house is really connected with people who are very intelligent (probably because they think so much about stuff all the time, so might as well useful stuff).

I have nothing in gemini in my natal, but I am a virgo sun, both are ruled by mercury - the "thinking" planet. And all the gemini people I know only sleep for 5-6 hours per day lol. Except those with pisces moon/strong pisces in their chart. Pisces anything makes you love sleep... and the paradox is that I got a pisces moon myself, so my sleeping problems can be extra frustrating this way because I very much need my 8 hours everyday, and it has always been a problem for me to get this.

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posted June 06, 2015 04:22 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Kannon McAfee     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Primarose220, you've not included enough astrological information/birth data for such a 'diagnosis.' A full chart is best.

NOTE: a warning to get out of the way here ... Never ever sleep with a cell phone on anywhere near you, and NEVER by your head.

However, the Gemini tendency is for the nerve communication to be 'on' and the entire sympathetic nerve system to be 'on.' I recommend trying some simple slow deep breathing in which you gradually reduce and deepen the breaths until you feel a different state of mind come on. Maybe while listening to a guided meditation track or meditative music. Exercise is important to tire yourself out enough during the day so that the body is actually ready for sleep.

Sleep can only take place when the parasympathetic system (sleep, digestion, healing) becomes dominant. This ebb and flow between the two systems is a natural thing that should be roughly balanced in a 24-hour period.

Astrologically troubles with chronic insomnia relate to aspects involving fire/air planets [fire: mars, jupiter; air: merc, uranus] that are reinforced by the person's rising/sun/moon positions.

Fire planet because it generally involves a nervous system 'on alert' in which Heart Fire (as understood in TCM) or Liver Fire is not contained and flares upwards to the head. Mars emphasis is prone to over-activation of the sympathetic nervous system for action; Jupiter emphasis to far-reaching thought of what-ifs, even anxiety by always thinking big.

Air planets because thought is connected to the social world which is one of conscious operation, not easily submitting to the unconsciousness of sleep.

Uranus is the awakener, yet its tendency is not to submit to sleep and the natural dreaming state that can assist with this, but to look for the conscious Eureka! moment.

Mercury is the messenger, and there is always another message to receive and deliver.

It is not normal or healthy for people to live on just a few hours of sleep each night. This is indicative of a fire/air imbalance in the body which is often generated by inborn tendencies seen in the birth chart. This is not to outline an 'excess' of such-and-such as a basis for interpretaion. Many people with heavy fire emphases in their charts do not engage in workaholism or fall into other patterns of insomnia.

Many will say that anxiety is the cause of much of insomnia people experience, but if that is delivered by a rationale that leads in a straight line to an 'anti-anxiety' Rx, then I recommend caution. Check out other natural alternatives first: herbs, breathing exercises, changing your evening media input, etc.

There are a number of herbs that can be taken at the same time each night to ease one into sleep and have no side effects:

Passion flower for those with hyperactive nervous systems.

Hops flower for those who experience agitation and abundant sex drive.

Wood betony for those who tend to experience headaches.

Schizandra berries for those who need an astringent to tone up the body tissues overall, provide vitamin C for the adrenals and tone up the lungs, and/or alleviate the symptoms of diabetes or fluid loss.

California Poppy for summertime when bodies tend to run hotter and for Fire Constitutions who tend to run hot anyway; cools the blood while it relives insomnia, anxiety, pain, headaches, even fevers. If you notice feeling too warm at night or get hot easily when covered up this may be the one for you.

Gotu Kola for those who need to cool off the nervous system, support the brain and relieve skin conditions or provide gentle detoxification.

Oatstraw for nutrients for the nervous system/brain, and for those who tend to have under-nourished or weak hair/nails (as a constitutional indicator for the need for these nutrients like silica).

Chamomile flower for those who need calcium for the nervous system and possibly some carminative soothing effect to the digestive system.

Calcium itself is highly recommended for those who have highly active fiery constitutions because they burn it up so fast.

Amber powder is used in TCM to calm a weakened fire element when people may have trouble sleeping due to grief, troubled dreams, interrupted sleep, etc.

Valerian root can be used for similar purposes, but is also good for daytime use, and is more for the delicate constitution that tends to a body that chills easily or needs to cover up more.

Ashwagandha root is good especially for older folks or those experiencing structural/joint pains, arthritis; its first action is sedation, but it builds the blood and strength and is perfect for those who need fundamental constitutional support.

All these are best taken at the same time each night. If you've picked what seems to be an appropriate herb(s) and the first dosage level you try doesn't seem to work, then double it, but keep taking it at the same time each night.


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posted June 06, 2015 08:25 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for unforgiven_soul     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
My bestie is a Gemini and had a sleep disorder for years, I was curious how she managed to stand all this years. Her Sun is in the 7th house and her Neptune in the 2nd house. She has Mars Square Neptune, could that be a problem?

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Primarose220
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posted June 06, 2015 09:23 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Primarose220     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by lalalinda:
A sleep disorder suggests that Neptune is involved.
Is Gemini on the cusp of the sixth house?
Is Mercury in aspect to Neptune?

can you be more specific?


Hi Lalinda,

The person I know of like this as I was speaking with him.

He has Sun, Mercury and Venus in Gemini, Mars in Pisces, Moon and Ascendant in Capricorn.

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Kannon McAfee
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posted June 08, 2015 03:28 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Kannon McAfee     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Add Wild Lettuce to that list of herbs. It is good for relief of pain and insomnia and can be pretty strong.

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