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Yanmorg
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posted May 28, 2015 10:27 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Yanmorg     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
What in his chart would make him aloof, distant, and just plain hard to get to know?

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posted May 28, 2015 11:50 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Doux Rêve     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
. Scorpio ASC
. that same ASC squaring Saturn
. Saturn square Mercury (Mercury in the 12H, conjuncting the ASC, gives it an even more hidden/secretive disposition, and being so close to the ASC it's part of his overall personality)
. Scorpio Venus conj. Pluto
. Sun in the 12H

Holy cow thou, that Grand Cross!
Wonder what it's like to have it.

Is he at all aggressive or seems hostile?

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posted May 28, 2015 11:54 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Yanmorg     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote

Thanks for your reply Doux!
Not at all.

He's very laidback and mysterious, but then again, he could just be showing me this side of him.

I thought he would be aggressive as well, but nothing of that sort yet.

He's a confusing character to say the least.

Grand cross?

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posted May 28, 2015 11:56 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Doux Rêve     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
With the Moon being part of it, I suspect he only shows 'that' side of him in very close associations (family and S.Os).

Grand cross: http://www.astro.com/mtp/mtpt73_e.htm

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posted May 28, 2015 11:58 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Yanmorg     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Thanks!

Does it show he's family oriented as well?

& so I assume he only opens up to those closest to him then too, judging by his chart.

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posted May 28, 2015 12:29 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for erickaf     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Sun in the 12th perhaps. I have this and I am super quiet I make people uncomfortable.

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posted May 28, 2015 01:58 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for peony     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Yanmorg:
Not at all.

He's very laidback and mysterious, but then again, he could just be showing me this side of him.

I thought he would be aggressive as well, but nothing of that sort yet.

Grand cross?


I'm not surprised. If you were thinking of the hard aspects to his Mars, Libra and Cancer aren't aggressive and Mars is opposed by Uranus-Neptune. That along with his cardinal GC suggests that he's active and he's a doer, possibly passive-aggressive. Moon in Aries square Mars in Cancer may mean he likes dominant women or he has/had a dominant mom. I'd want to know if he is on good terms with her. That's probably going to have a bearing on how he treats a woman. Didn't see this before, he's got a wide Saturn on the IC square Venus. He's not confident with women and is vulnerable on the feeling side. Saturn square Venus and Moon square Uranus would account for his aloofness also.

Aside from Sun in the 12H and Cancer Mars, which is self-protective, Mars opposing Neptune can be mysterious and indirect.

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posted May 28, 2015 02:41 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Yanmorg     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by peony:
I'm not surprised. If you were thinking of the hard aspects to his Mars, Libra and Cancer aren't aggressive and Mars is opposed by Uranus-Neptune. That along with his cardinal GC suggests that he's active and he's a doer, possibly passive-aggressive. Moon in Aries square Mars in Cancer may mean he likes dominant women or he has/had a dominant mom. I'd want to know if he is on good terms with her. That's probably going to have a bearing on how he treats a woman. Didn't see this before, he's got a wide Saturn on the IC square Venus. He's not confident with women and is vulnerable on the feeling side. Saturn square Venus and Moon square Uranus would account for his aloofness also.

Aside from Sun in the 12H and Cancer Mars, which is self-protective, Mars opposing Neptune can be mysterious and indirect.



Thanks for the in depth feedback, Peony!

Wow, but he's so attractive. I can't imagine him not being confident when it comes to women.

& his family is very close despite his parents being separated. His dad just got remarried and his mom is going down that path soon, too.

I have moon square uranus also but venus trine Saturn natally so I can definitely relate to this part of him. I don't mind the aloofness or distance, but I'm trying to really get to know this fella as of right now! haha He can act aloof after we get established.

I always seem to attractive mars in cancer men with some aspect to neptune or uranus or both!

His uranus and neptune are located in his 3rd house, ruled by Saturn so that probably explains it as well.

So with that being said, would he run for the hills with people who are too direct since he's so passive aggressive?

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posted May 28, 2015 08:47 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for peony     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Wow, but he's so attractive. I can't imagine him not being confident when it comes to women.

I'm not sure if you mean physically attractive or that he has an attractive personality, or both! Still, a person can have good looks and/or have a great personality and still be insecure on the inside. Also, Mars in Cancer is highly sensitive and vulnerable, and somewhat timid, which probably creates some internal tension or conflict between his Mars and his Aries Moon. These are two obviously different sides to him. He needs emotional closeness, but he likes his independence too with an Aries Moon, even more so with the square from Uranus.

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...his family is very close despite his parents being separated. His dad just got remarried and his mom is going down that path soon, too.

Mars in Cancer is typically close to their family.

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So with that being said, would he run for the hills with people who are too direct since he's so passive aggressive?

With his Aries Moon, he attracts direct and assertive women. If you're too direct though, he'll probably become evasive or manipulative. In my opinion, showing patience and sensitivity to his feelings and if you can cook, I doubt he'll run for the hills. Whoever coined this expression: "The way to a man's heart is through his stomach" must have been thinking of a Mars in Cancer man.

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posted May 28, 2015 09:58 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Seimei     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Yanmorg:
What in his chart would make him aloof, distant, and just plain hard to get to know?


Saturn in AQ and Uranus in cappy and Saturn at root of incarnation Rules is the most aloof point in chart in my opinion. EXTREME
reservations at CORE, plus Mercury in SC, very secretive about what he DOES feel, and in the Helio Venus also is in Cappy.
Very quiet perhaps for a full moon person, careful cracking open the psyche.
May be very concerned with WHAT is true?
Moon and asteroid Psyche 16 in opposition with Neptune squaring both.
Also Saturn is at Helio Node of Neptune
so even more quietness

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posted May 30, 2015 07:31 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Yanmorg     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by peony:
With his Aries Moon, he attracts direct and assertive women. If you're too direct though, he'll probably become evasive or manipulative. In my opinion, showing patience and sensitivity to his feelings and if you can cook, I doubt he'll run for the hills. Whoever coined this expression: "The way to a man's heart is through his stomach" must have been thinking of a Mars in Cancer man.

my mars in sagittarius doesn't understand 'too direct'

What type of women would he be attracted to since he's such a series of contradictions?

Would his first house Venus cause him to be extremely picky when choosing a mate?

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posted May 30, 2015 07:33 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Yanmorg     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Seimei:
Saturn in AQ and Uranus in cappy and Saturn at root of incarnation Rules is the most aloof point in chart in my opinion. EXTREME
reservations at CORE, plus Mercury in SC, very secretive about what he DOES feel, and in the Helio Venus also is in Cappy.
Very quiet perhaps for a full moon person, careful cracking open the psyche.
May be very concerned with WHAT is true?
Moon and asteroid Psyche 16 in opposition with Neptune squaring both.
Also Saturn is at Helio Node of Neptune
so even more quietness



What's mercury in SC?

What is Helio Node?

Saturn plays a major role in his chart I see. More than I imagined.

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posted May 30, 2015 07:38 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Yanmorg     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I'm also curious to know what type of karmic debths are associated with his chart with his Sun/ Mercury in the 12th, conjunct and opposite asteroid karma respectively.

Not to mention all of those Saturn aspects.

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posted May 30, 2015 07:41 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Randall     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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