posted May 28, 2015 03:42 PM            

I'm an active Tumblr user, and since I started using my account again earlier this year, I have noticed an increase in discussion about abolishing mental health stigmas and bringing mental health issues to better light to help those who don't battle any and end ignorant information regarding them.

I do agree, though, that society continues to fail to learn how to distinguish fact from fiction. This will probably always be an issue though.

posted May 28, 2015 06:05 PM            

I mean this is general, but yeah I didn't think of it being a Neptune in Pisces generational thing...probs should have done but oh well :P

Sorry that sounded a bit random, I was just focusing on the distorting fact from fiction aha :P I feel mental illness has become a lot more sympathised with, especially where I live, which is good. But then I also think that as its becoming more understood, people attach certain traits and habits to having a mental illness which is just going the other way.... I think there's just an increase in confusion with touchy subjects y'know...information is getting more skewed somehow...
wow this Neptune is a confusing lad :/ :P

posted May 29, 2015 01:16 AM            

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Originally posted by bansheequeen:
I don't really pay attention to the media too much. But I have noticed that mental disorders are cool now. Depression is a fad. That I can see as being a Neptune in Pisces thing. Romanticizing mental health disorders and self pity in general. With that being said, I don't really associate mental disorders and "depression culture" as neptunian.

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This is what I am trying to say--the self-destructive attitudes, escapism, and romanticizing those disorders as if they were the coolest things to have ever happened to people. It drives me nuts especially since most of the people affected are teenagers like me.

I know a heck ton of people who subconsciously use disorders to get attention from others and get mad when you hit them with the truth. It sucks because there's actually people who are going through such disorders, but are deprived of help because all of it is wasted on attention-seekers.

posted May 29, 2015 02:06 AM            

It's not just that, but how easy it is to diagnose something as depression, either out of being a corporate shill selling a pill or simply because doctors themselves get sucked in.

I've personally known two people who were hospitalized because of reactions to their depression medication (one who went completely psychotic and can barely recall what happened under the influence of the pills and his stay in a hospital was painful given how they were constantly drawing blood as they had to measure whatever it was they were doing as the pills had screwed him up bad in a way that could be seen in blood tests) and heard of others. In one case it turned out he was apparently bipolar so the depression med actually exacerbated it so that when he was happy he felt like he was on ecstasy but when he went low he had a total mental breakdown.

I've heard of others, too, like a friend of mine who was told as a teen by her mother to get away and she overheard her on the phone saying she was about to kill her kids and one of the first things she was asked was if she'd just started or stopped taking psyche meds and saying she just started under orders of her doctor she was told "sometimes that happens."

One of the spookiest was what I saw in a video store. This really rude, obnoxious guy was trying to give hell to the clerk who just remained calm and professional the entire time until the guy stormed off that he couldn't rattle the clerk. I was so impressed that I complimented him on it and he gave me a smile that was odd and said it was his medication that let him do it, all of the clerks were on it. I don't know why but within a year of that time all of those clerks weren't working there anymore either. Many who defend the pills would be quick to say there's a lesson why those drugs are bad for you had they instead been smoking pot rather than popping pills. Though in that case I don't know if they asked for the pills or if the pills were peddled to them, but I do know something has gone tragically wrong when every single employee is on them.

posted May 29, 2015 03:36 AM            

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Originally posted by Solar_Leo_Queen:
This is what I am trying to say--the self-destructive attitudes, escapism, and romanticizing those disorders as if they were the coolest things to have ever happened to people. It drives me nuts especially since most of the people affected are teenagers like me.

I know a heck ton of people who subconsciously use disorders to get attention from others and get mad when you hit them with the truth. It sucks because there's actually people who are going through such disorders, but are deprived of help because all of it is wasted on attention-seekers.

I personally think Virgo's part in this is to help ground people, see through the illusions, and define boundaries.

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Completely agree. Virgo's analytial ability can assess what is going on from an objective view point and attempt to selflessly provide support. (Although the objective viewpoint may come from a more conversative sign (Libra or Capricorn etc.)

When people tell themselves they have a 'disorder' they eventually start to believing they do, and when challenged, react hot because they have been caught out.

It seems that teenagers these days try to fit to the norm too much and by this I mean they see people having a disorder, so they have to get one. (Like everyone 'has' to get the new iPhone, or latest thing).

posted May 29, 2015 01:15 PM            

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Originally posted by PixieJane:

One of the spookiest was what I saw in a video store. This really rude, obnoxious guy was trying to give hell to the clerk who just remained calm and professional the entire time until the guy stormed off that he couldn't rattle the clerk. I was so impressed that I complimented him on it and he gave me a smile that was odd and said it was his medication that let him do it, all of the clerks were on it. I don't know why but within a year of that time all of those clerks weren't working there anymore either.

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That is quite scary. It sounds like it's a form of brainwash. I wonder if those are common with big companies. And I definitely think they force their employess to take them somehow.

posted May 29, 2015 01:17 PM            

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Originally posted by Sven555:

These people who use the disorder as an attention-seeker, need that spotlight turned off! Let's all shine upon the people who actually need help![/B]

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I totally agree. It's not even funny how teenagers think they should be having it.

posted May 29, 2015 03:55 PM            

But I think its very great that people can finally talk open about this, so maybe we can get to the bottom of this issue. Cause a lot of people maybe used to suffer silently, but now they can speak out in the open, and cure themselves. Move on.

Sadly it was too late for my brother. He died from his mental illness a couple of years ago. It is very serious to suffer from stuff like that... and its a big problem in society now a days.

But truth is... it's very normal to have a lot of bad periods troughtout all your life. Just think back, some hundred years ago. Everyone have always suffered from anything... hunger, being poor, being ill. People are used to being sad. And now, when things are greater than ever - people feel sad about it.
People are not used to be "happy" all their lives.

posted May 30, 2015 06:28 PM            

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Originally posted by Sven555:
Completely agree. Virgo's analytial ability can assess what is going on from an objective view point and attempt to selflessly provide support. (Although the objective viewpoint may come from a more conversative sign (Libra or Capricorn etc.)

When people tell themselves they have a 'disorder' they eventually start to believing they do, and when challenged, react hot because they have been caught out.

It seems that teenagers these days try to fit to the norm too much and by this I mean they see people having a disorder, so they have to get one. (Like everyone 'has' to get the new iPhone, or latest thing).

[b]These people who use the disorder as an attention-seeker, need that spotlight turned off! Let's all shine upon the people who actually need help![/B]

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Oh god. Being a hypochondriac is soo Pisces. I'm sorry but it's true. Virgos do this too but in a different way. They just worry they might have something but realize they don't lol. Pisces will seriously believe they have some disorder or medical condition they read about on the Internet and if you tell them they're being ridiculous, you "don't care." In their eyes.

posted May 30, 2015 06:30 PM            

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Originally posted by Solar_Leo_Queen:
This is what I am trying to say--the self-destructive attitudes, escapism, and romanticizing those disorders as if they were the coolest things to have ever happened to people. It drives me nuts especially since most of the people affected are teenagers like me.

I know a heck ton of people who subconsciously use disorders to get attention from others and get mad when you hit them with the truth. It sucks because there's actually people who are going through such disorders, but are deprived of help because all of it is wasted on attention-seekers.

I personally think Virgo's part in this is to help ground people, see through the illusions, and define boundaries.

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posted May 30, 2015 09:14 PM            

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Originally posted by next to neptune:
I still don't think anyone think it's "cool" to have a mental disorder. Thats not anything to joke about.

But I think its very great that people can finally talk open about this, so maybe we can get to the bottom of this issue. Cause a lot of people maybe used to suffer silently, but now they can speak out in the open, and cure themselves. Move on.

Sadly it was too late for my brother. He died from his mental illness a couple of years ago. It is very serious to suffer from stuff like that... and its a big problem in society now a days.

But truth is... it's very normal to have a lot of bad periods troughtout all your life. Just think back, some hundred years ago. Everyone have always suffered from anything... hunger, being poor, being ill. People are used to being sad. And now, when things are greater than ever - people feel sad about it.
People are not used to be "happy" all their lives.

It is ok to be angry. It is ok to be sad, if things arent going well. People need to realise that and stop thinking that if they arent feeling happy constantly, there is something mentally wrong with them.
Just (dont) relax, fight for your right, live your life, fight cruelty in the world...

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I completely agree. I think having discourse about mental disorders will really help to alleviate the shame people face for not only having a mental disorder, but then also seeking treatment for it. I hate the way people are shamed for taking antidepressants for example. Sometimes when the brain biochemistry is really off-balance you need to take something help rebalance it. This is not to say that medication is the only answer, certainly you want to explore other avenues as well, but when people say we shouldn't take antidepressants I have to wonder how little society understands how physiology and brain functioning work.

I agree with your thoughts on happiness, it is important to accept all feelings- I think people have this misconception based on how the media frames success and expectations that if life is not perfect, there is something wrong with you.

posted June 01, 2015 10:50 PM            

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Originally posted by Solar_Leo_Queen:
Did you guys notice that ever since Neptune moved into Pisces, depression, anxiety, and other mental disorders started to rise and become highly publicized?

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posted June 05, 2015 07:43 AM            

For me, people are slowly starting to realize that young black children do get depressed, black girls too often face animosity from their own mothers more often than not, and black teen suicide is on the rise :/ it's finally starting to come out in the open.

posted June 05, 2015 10:57 AM            

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Originally posted by charlie:
I don't follow media. No tv. No papers. No magazines. No FB/Twitter/Insta. Only "news" I partake in comes from LL.

I am a Virgo Asc conj Mars and have a Virgo stellium incl Asc in 12H progressed chart.

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Well we always have a choice of being uninformed or misinformed.
Virgo Sun and Pluto here.