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Plut0nian2
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posted June 01, 2015 08:08 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Plut0nian2     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I have Pluto in Scorpio (in 5th) and Venus conjuct Mars in Leo (in 2nd) both square my Pluto..
Manipulation and problematic/difficult live life love life is all I read about it and it applies perfectly to me..

What's your opinion/experience with this/these aspects? How do you handle it?

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Randall
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posted June 02, 2015 06:37 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Randall     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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cchampliss2
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posted June 02, 2015 08:38 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for cchampliss2     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I have the pluto square mars aspect in my natal. Pluto in libra and capricorn mars. There are a few things with me. I have definitely been very jealous and controlling in relationships. Especially during my younger years. But as I've gotten older, I've learned more about the type of people who are good for me in relationships and that usually involves people who are really open about their feelings because I've found that gives me a sense of emotional security. I'm also drawn to more water signs vs air signs because of the watery aspect it has on me. I'm a cap sun. They chill me out and help me to keep the energies balanced. The time I did date a libra, they had a scorpio moon and we meshed really well but we both outgrew the relationship. But I've also gone through a lot of internal work as to why I feel so jealous or insecure in relationships and have worked at the triggers. That took a long time but I see the work coming through in a very positive way. Even just the relationships with family and friends.

As far as anger issues, I've had problems before but have taken on meditation, prayer, and physical activities like running or hiking. Anything to just get that energy out.

The problem I've had though is mostly my obsessive behavior. That one I haven't quite conquered but the meditation has been good and learning about Buddhist philosophy and just leting go of things and people and attachment. Another thing that I've struggled with is the amount of power or pressure I need to go about things. Like just now, I'm helping an org. Put together a group for women to support eachother at a college campus here. And I'm a no bs type person and I couldn't figure out why no one had a set time to go in to help set up the space the day of the event and the event is in two days. It went as well as I could've possibly hoped for but it was tense in there from the moment I walked in the room.
And speaking of walking in the room, I've been told I have a heavy/magnetic presence. I don't know for sure because I can't see myself but I do know people who seem to stutter when I talk with them. Even if it's about the weather. So I've learned to just smile a lot and use a lot of please and thank yous. The energy though of going for it or holding back is very very difficult to manage though. I feel it.

Sorry this was so long. I understand the struggle though.

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Plut0nian2
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posted June 02, 2015 10:05 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Plut0nian2     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
cchampliss2 nice said very helpful

I am wandering why it's so different for me..
I am really jealous and possesive only in love (meaning the romantic-sexual love) but I am exactly the opposite with others.. friends, family etc..
I don't have anger issues.
Problem is I get really bored with easy relationships.. meaning with open guys.. I don't even believe them when they express their feelings to me. I can't take them seriously..
I need those intense feelings.. passion jealousy anger hate.. problem is it's sooo difficult to find someone that will drive me crazy like that.. I wish I liked open men too..
Maybe my Sun opposition Uranus or Uranus really close to my 7th H cusp..
I don't know..

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Randall
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posted June 05, 2015 01:45 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Randall     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Pluto squares are tough.

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posted June 05, 2015 04:00 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Plut0nian2     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Randall

Do you have any Pluto square?

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lalalinda
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posted June 06, 2015 08:57 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for lalalinda     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Hello Plut0nian2! Welcome to LL

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posted June 06, 2015 09:15 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Plut0nian2     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Thank you

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posted June 06, 2015 10:36 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for goatcat     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I know a Venus in Taurus opposite Pluto in Scorpio.

very manipulative. uses praise and affection as a weapon. very uncomfortable when something is "too good" in a relationship.

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posted June 06, 2015 11:22 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Watercolordaydream     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Hii we are twinsies - almost
I have Sun 7H Venus 7H Mars 8H Leo sq. Pluto Scorpio

Where do I even start? lol
I used to be afraid of my demons, always felt like I was the odd one out of the group. But I have learned to love each and every single one of my hard Pluto aspects. I need PLUTO. It adds the depth and intensity in my make up. Occasionally, I intimate a lot of men... I tend to come off very strongly, esp when I am trying to make a point across. Stressful and trauma does not scare me. In fact, I appreciate/like it because it pushes me to reborn and evolve into a stronger me. When I love, I love hard, passionately, obsessively, and I have a hard time detaching when I commit. When I decide I want something, I would do whatever it takes, AS LONG as I get it. With age, many of these aspects of myself are under control. Pahah :P

Please do share you stories. I would love to hear them <3

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posted June 06, 2015 11:24 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Watercolordaydream     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Randall
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posted June 08, 2015 07:32 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Randall     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
No, I have Trines.

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Originally posted by Plut0nian2:
Randall

Do you have any Pluto square?


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cchampliss2
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posted June 10, 2015 08:58 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for cchampliss2     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
You know, since a lot of these posts or websites usually mention this aspect as being violent and murdeous, I wanted to list off the good traits about it.

"Steel guts" is the phrase I've heard often.

Someone who doesn't f*** around, so if you want something done with that extra umph, this one will do it.

When the energy is channeled properly and effectively, it's transformative. I've always found myself drawn to situations where power is corrupt, and have tried to fight tooth and nail to change and advocate for those that can't for themselves. And I don't let up one bit. This aspect is good if you channel it well and are working for change.

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posted June 11, 2015 06:35 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Sunnya     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
As far as squares go, I have:

Mars square Pluto
Jupiter square Pluto

Then I have:

Moon Opp Pluto
Mercury Quintile Pluto
Venus Trine Pluto and Venus in the 8th
Neptune Sextile Pluto exact

ASC is in Scorpio as well as Pluto, but they don't conjunct.

My life has always been full of:

- life/death situations (not literally death, however I did loose very important people when I was younger and this was a turning point in my life).
- Deep falls in life with extraordinary come backs. And I am going through another one right now. Those type of situations where you push a "reset" button in your life and start all over again.

People tend to come to me all the time to ask me "how do you do it" and "how can you be so courageous".

I used to be very jealous and possessive, but I grew over it. I just don't waste my energy like that anymore and I rather focus my energy in positive emotions and feelings.

Besides everything, I love Pluto. It gives me certain qualities and a healing force I wouldn't have otherwise.

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Plut0nian2
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posted June 12, 2015 02:41 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Plut0nian2     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
cchampliss2 and Sunnya

cchampliss2 I can relate to what you said about fighting for the weaker ones..
I've done this in any given chance.. But I can not respect mentally weak people.. I am dynamic and tough I like people like me..
But it's really difficult to find.. especially girls..


Sunnya

I can relate to the "how can you be so courageous?" thing that you cchampliss2 said.
Most people tell me they would have lost their mind if they had been through what I've been in this age of mine. To tell you the truth..
I don't like it.. I feel extremely unlucky in my life ( I guess this is Sun in 12th and Saturn in 8th and Pluto square Mars, Venus, Jupiter have a little to do)
But I would prefer to be less courageous and more lucky or at least less unlucky..

I am also jealous (just in love relationships) and suspicious with anyone..
But I like them both.. When I feel jealous I feel a little bit weaker than my passion
It's like the only time I can not control my feelings and I like how passionate it makes me.. I rarely like someone that much.. and I am not talking for justified jealousy of course.. but the jealousy I feel without reason.. I always need to feel a lot of passion and the feeling that someone "reads" my eyes..
Thank God all Scopio Sun-Mercury-Mars-Pluto and Cappy Venus-Saturn-Neptune-Uranus men (I have 5th H cusp in Scorpio and 7th H in Cappy) come to me all the time so I can feel those intense feeling I need..

Pluto trines Cancer Sun-Mercury-ASC
Pluto sextiles Cappy Uranus - Neptune
Pluto squares Leo Venus-Mars-Jupiter

Some of these aspects are loose
the tightest is the trine with the ASC and square to Mars and then Venus..

People always bet I am a scorpio girl ^^

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