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whaaat
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posted June 06, 2015 03:46 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for whaaat     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I've got a theory:


Moon: Your emotions, comfort zone and nest building instinct. Most likely represents the type of person you'll end up marrying (if at all).

Venus: The type of person you find attractive. The type you tend to objectify ( unless there are aspects to your Moon).

Mars: Your fighting style and the way you deal with competition.

Neptune: Your addictions. I've seen this show up in chart of celebrities who had/have an obsession with a particular type of woman.

Almost forgot about Pluto but I don't really think Pluto is about love? Sex perhaps...Retualistic, mystical, a show of dominance. Strong attraction and equally strong revulsion. Sadism, jealousy, paranoia.

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Aries23Degrees
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posted June 06, 2015 03:05 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Aries23Degrees     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I love how you put Venus and the Moon. As I do see the Moon as very influential in the type of partner you marry. And Venus as someone you tend to objectify.

So I take it that good aspects between Venus/Moon suggests that you actually get to marry the person you objectify?

And do the harsh aspects between Moon and Mars suggest that I may compete with my married partner?

And Moon/Pluto or Venus/Pluto may suggest that I tend to obsess or try to control my marriage partner(in the 1st instance)? Or I tend to obsess over my object of desire (in the 2nd)?

Moon/Pluto opposition. My Mom has this. Would it suggests a sort of addiction to her spouse(my Dad)?

What about Saturn,Jupiter and Uranus? Given them some thought?


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posted June 06, 2015 10:19 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for goatcat     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
There's something about Neptune that goes beyond the senses...

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whaaat
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posted June 07, 2015 01:43 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for whaaat     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Originally posted by Aries23Degrees:
I love how you put Venus and the Moon. As I do see the Moon as very influential in the type of partner you marry. And Venus as someone you tend to objectify.

So I take it that good aspects between Venus/Moon suggests that you actually get to marry the person you objectify?

From my own experience with Venus opposition Moon it's very difficult for me to find someone both physically and emotionally attractive so I do assume that a positive aspect or placement between Moon and Venus would let you have your cake and eat it too!


And do the harsh aspects between Moon and Mars suggest that I may compete with my married partner?

The Moon is our most personal planet. Whatever aspects you have to your Moon are most likely either internal conflicts ( which could in theory cloud your judgement when it comes to love) or simply energies which make you search for 'your kind of people'.
People who'll soothe your internal conflicts and accept you warts and all.

And Moon/Pluto or Venus/Pluto may suggest that I tend to obsess or try to control my marriage partner(in the 1st instance)? Or I tend to obsess over my object of desire (in the 2nd)?

2nd= Venus+ your Pluto /Venus! What a prominent aspect!
I have it in my chart as well in the for of an opposition between Taurus Venus and Scorpio Pluto. It all depends on what type of aspect+placement you have:

An opposition will make you a bipolar mess who can't have their damn cake (like me )

A square, unlike an opposition is a permanent tension between the two planets and will either make you the tyrannical sadist in your relationships or you'll have to constantly deal with such people in your life.

Moon/Pluto opposition. My Mom has this. Would it suggests a sort of addiction to her spouse(my Dad)?

A Moon/Pluto feels more like a constant swing between love, comfort, safety and the Plutonian paranoia and insecurity.
She might trust him 100% one moment and question his every motive the next.

What about Saturn,Jupiter and Uranus? Given them some thought?


If you mean a Saturn/Jupiter/Uranus stellium then it sounds like a wonderful aspect!
Saturn the hard worker with Uranus the humanist and Jupiter the monk/teacher all point to a beautiful person.

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SaturnFan
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posted June 07, 2015 02:05 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for SaturnFan     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Hello whaaat Very interesting observations!

I have the following t-square:

Taurus Moon
Aquarius Venus/ AC (0 degrees conjunction)
Scorpio Pluto

Would love to hear your perspective on how these energies play out

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Aries23Degrees
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posted June 07, 2015 04:58 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Aries23Degrees     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by whaaat:
From my own experience with Venus opposition Moon it's very difficult for me to find someone both physically and emotionally attractive so I do assume that a positive aspect or placement between Moon and Venus would let you have your cake and eat it too!

Oh yes, I agree with this.Someone I lived with had an opposition aspect between the two and that made him get involved with one person(Moon),but lust after another(Venus).

Its like his needs(Moon)and desires(Venus) were mutually exclusive and he couldn't merge them successfully. And so he opted to "separate" them.

quote:
Originally posted by whaaat:
The Moon is our most personal planet.

Whatever aspects you have to your Moon are most likely either internal conflicts ( which could in theory cloud your judgement when it comes to love) or simply energies which make you search for 'your kind of people'.

People who'll soothe your internal conflicts and accept you warts and all.[QUOTE]

Yes

Whether or not the aspects to the Moon are "good" or "bad",we tend to take them "as is" and project them into the relationships we have: Looking for the same types of symbols because the Moon was our first contact of "love".

I feel a sense of "disconnect" with my extended family. And a rage towards my immediate family(more specifically my Dad).

I see this aspect "pouring over" to my Venus-Saturn conjunct(since Moon is trine Venus nataly). And I'll explain later how this plays out.

[QUOTE]Originally posted by whaaat:
2nd= Venus+ your Pluto /Venus! What a prominent aspect!

I have it in my chart as well in the for of an opposition between Taurus Venus and Scorpio Pluto. It all depends on what type of aspect+placement you have:

An opposition will make you a bipolar mess who can't have their damn cake (like me )

A square, unlike an opposition is a permanent tension between the two planets and will either make you the tyrannical sadist in your relationships or you'll have to constantly deal with such people in your life.


So true.But this is not my aspect unfortunately- but an aspect of another I knew: They have Venus/Pluto in Scorpio conjunct!

Since you have the same planets involved, I wonder if it is a defense mechanism for the individual to be very much standoffish?

This one also has their Moon trine Pluto. And so I am assuming that they are just pretending not to be as intense as their chart suggests?

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Originally posted by whaaat:
A Moon/Pluto feels more like a constant swing between love, comfort, safety and the Plutonian paranoia and insecurity.

She might trust him 100% one moment and question his every motive the next.


That sounds about right. Though I meant to say that she has the Moon opposite Neptune and Moon trine to Pluto.

But I reckon its the same themes with the trine, but with less intensity of-course.

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Originally posted by whaaat:
If you mean a Saturn/Jupiter/Uranus stellium then it sounds like a wonderful aspect!

Saturn the hard worker with Uranus the humanist and Jupiter the monk/teacher all point to a beautiful person.


Oh no. Not so much as a stellium,but in as far as their energy is concerned.

I have Venus-Saturn conjunct and I think Saturn aspects tends to make the individual quite rigid and taciturn.

I had a cold relationship with my Father (Saturn). And I think that that affected me in the way that I know to receive and engage in love.

There is definite hurt- as suggested by the Moon/Mars square I mentioned earlier-suffered from the early environment.

And jointly,these two aspects prevent me from letting someone get close- particularly the Venus/Saturn conjunct.

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whaaat
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posted June 08, 2015 05:37 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for whaaat     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by SaturnFan:
Hello whaaat Very interesting observations!

I have the following t-square:

Taurus Moon
Aquarius Venus/ AC (0 degrees conjunction)
Scorpio Pluto

Would love to hear your perspective on how these energies play out


Taurus Moon vs Scorpio Pluto...
Pluto being and outer planet, you will probably feel like the world is unsightly, treacherous and lacking in financial opportunities, while your Venusian Moon needs the very opposite.

Taurus Moon/Aquarius Venus
Venus-2nd house-money, luxury, beauty
Moon- what you need most of all so your Moon will probably be unsatisfied by your existent financial or aesthetic conditions.

The main issue of this T-square is financial comfort.

Your moon needs it but your Venus and Pluto are blocking you from that need.

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