posted June 08, 2015 12:40 AM            

What matters is putting your knowledge, talents, and experience to work for the benefit of yourself and others. Even if you don't have much money at any one time, life has a way of filling the voids in a timely fashion when operating from a basis of trust and willingness to share.

There are 3 planets associated with material comfort (Venus), abundance (Jupiter), and wealth (Pluto). Aspects and placements with these do not guarantee poverty or wealth. Conditions/contents of the 2nd or 8th don't guarantee anything either.

I have Pluto 8 degrees from my Asc and Jupiter in the 2nd house of my birth chart. I have Sun-Saturn in the 8th and am in no way preoccupied with material gain or getting rich. I have never been, nor do I ever expect to be rich.

Experiencing abundance is as much a function of the social lives we lead and our ability to connect and share with others. Most associations with being well off materially seem to have to do with possessing money, which is only a medium of exchange and cannot meet any need by itself.

There are two ways of living:

Telling yourself, When I get rich I will have enough to help others.

... and ...

Sharing what you already have with others.

ALL wealth is shared in the end anyway, because the very definition of 'wealth' is the temporary possession of a medium of exchange owned by a societal institution.

posted June 08, 2015 04:00 AM            

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Originally posted by Kannon McAfee:
I hope you don't think its all a matter of wealth or poverty. To leave poverty is not necessarily to become wealthy. And your birth chart, a starting place, does not guarantee any outcome. Wealthy people lose their fortunes every year.

What matters is putting your knowledge, talents, and experience to work for the benefit of yourself and others. Even if you don't have much money at any one time, life has a way of filling the voids in a timely fashion when operating from a basis of trust and willingness to share.

There are 3 planets associated with material comfort (Venus), abundance (Jupiter), and wealth (Pluto). Aspects and placements with these do not guarantee poverty or wealth. Conditions/contents of the 2nd or 8th don't guarantee anything either.

I have Pluto 8 degrees from my Asc and Jupiter in the 2nd house of my birth chart. I have Sun-Saturn in the 8th and am in no way preoccupied with material gain or getting rich. I have never been, nor do I ever expect to be rich.

Experiencing abundance is as much a function of the social lives we lead and our ability to connect and share with others. Most associations with being well off materially seem to have to do with possessing money, which is only a medium of exchange and cannot meet any need by itself.

There are two ways of living:

Telling yourself, When I get rich I will have enough to help others.

... and ...

Sharing what you already have with others.

ALL wealth is shared in the end anyway, because the very definition of 'wealth' is the temporary possession of a medium of exchange owned by a societal institution.

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posted June 09, 2015 02:26 PM            

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Originally posted by Kannon McAfee:
twinflame1914 - that has to do with the full details of your chart taken into account, and your windows of opportunity as signified by your transits/progressions. Everyone has periods of better luck or abundance if only they are taken advantage of. One of the qualities of most wealthy people is that they can be relentless in the pursuit of money, which most of us are not willing to do.

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posted June 09, 2015 02:50 PM            

I actually know two other people with Jupiter in their 2nd house. One was my financial literacy teacher, who wasn't very savvy with money when she was younger, but she married a cop who has a good credit score. She's living pretty well now. The other is my friend from high school, she works a lot, but I don't think she'll be rich any time soon. But who knows..

posted June 09, 2015 03:28 PM            

It seems that it is as simple as taking advantage of:

t.JUPITER trine n.JUPITER
t.VENUS trine n.JUPITER
t.VENUS conj. n.VENUS

JUPITER/VENUS to NN/PoF seemed fortunate also.

In most cases, there were 2-3 of these happening over a time period - not specific ones or dates.

There was some evidence to support sextiles as well.

By take advantage, I mean financial decisions that one was going to take anyway.

posted June 09, 2015 04:48 PM            

Many people right now are having trouble making ends meet. I'm no stranger to this. This isn't something to take too personally. Most likely its a phase that you will come out of.

All Transits of Jupiter to natal points like Asc, MC, Venus, Moon, Sun can bring some growth and good fortune. However, it must be understood that with the stronger transits/progressions (conjunctions, parallels, squares, oppositions, contra-parallels) made by Jupiter that one must exercise moderation to not catch 'the fever', overplay your position/winnings and end a loser in any attempt at making more money. This applies in stocks/venture capitalism as much as in gambling. They're very similar.

You have to decide on reasonable goals for any day's gains, and hard 'stops' to prevent losses.

Anytime strong aspects of Jupiter or Pluto are activated this 'more, more, more' or greed factor must be moderated or you can lose as much as you win.

But rather than going for money itself, I really recommend you know yourself and your talents and how you can put them into action. This creates a positive energy that open up more doors and override your own personal limits.

Besides, we can all co-create what we need by direct communication with the universe. I've done this to literally get an exact number of dollars in cash that I needed to pay for something to move my development forward. I'm writing about this now and will post it on my blog soon ... Neptune - The Art of Imaging.

posted June 10, 2015 08:23 AM            

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Originally posted by astra7:
OP,
I take it you are young.
Watch 3 mins video of compound interest on youtube. You will get excited! It's about learning how to manage your finance, once you learn a few techniques, put it into practice!

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I will be 35 this year. I just spent the last 10 years in a job that paid extremely well but destroyed my soul and was detrimental to my health. I opened a healing business so I could follow my purpose to be of service to others. I live simply yet I cannot financially sustain myself from my business. I consider myself fairly good at managing finances, which is how I got this far, yet it's not enough. My job was highly specialized so it's not like I could just get a new job.

I have to keep going back to my old job for contracts to earn $ which takes me away from my business then when I return to the business I start from square one. It's just a continuous circle and I don't know how to break out of it.

posted June 10, 2015 07:30 PM            

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Originally posted by twinflame1914:
I will be 35 this year. I just spent the last 10 years in a job that paid extremely well but destroyed my soul and was detrimental to my health. I opened a healing business so I could follow my purpose to be of service to others. I live simply yet I cannot financially sustain myself from my business. I consider myself fairly good at managing finances, which is how I got this far, yet it's not enough. My job was highly specialized so it's not like I could just get a new job.

I have to keep going back to my old job for contracts to earn $ which takes me away from my business then when I return to the business I start from square one. It's just a continuous circle and I don't know how to break out of it.

*smacks head against wall*

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I, on the other hand, on welfare and I have a roof over my head, clothes, food, a few luxuries like books and I am happy!

Talking of going round and round in circle... the world is desinged to keep you on the rat wheel. The programming started when we were very young. You gotta have a house/mortgage, car(s), kids, Nike, this and that etc.... To comform with the society. ptffff

posted June 10, 2015 08:47 PM            

Kannon McKafee... YOU are awesome, dude!

I wish us ALL here many-breakthroughs in finding 'all' the kinds of wealths there can be...

I actually have a philanthropists chart. Life derailed somewhere along the line... but have learned sooo much in a behind-the-scenes way. I certainly have my share in a wealth of experiences with that~~ as most are experiencing in various ways.

Take good care of yourselves, and those around you... And it's so fine & fantastic to get and share advice.

posted June 11, 2015 12:08 AM            

I have to keep going back to my old job for contracts to earn $ which takes me away from my business then when I return to the business I start from square one. It's just a continuous circle and I don't know how to break out of it.

*smacks head against wall*

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Most people don't turn much of a profit when they first

begin a business-- that's just how it is, so try not to

get too discouraged.

And it's understandable that it's hard to really get it off

the ground if you can't devote 100%.

'... so I could follow my purpose to be of service to others'

It's interesting that you keep getting pulled back to what

you used to do, though-- I don't suppose there's a way you

could revamp your business model that would allow you to

incorporate a bit of the old with the new?

I have no idea what you do, though... that may be impossible.

Just trying to think outside the cube.

posted June 11, 2015 06:54 AM            

If you keep on doing the same thing as before, of course, nothing will change and you WILL keep yourself in the same situation. Or else, one of the nasty planets will come along and yank it from you by means of financial loss, health problem etc which I think you might be already under.
Do something different! Get into Yoga, do meditation, walk in nature, these are the healthy things we are meant to be doing for our soul and body but 9-5 people ain't got time for that! And look what they are doing? Plenty of money in the bank, in property but they have to hire a nanny to look after their loving children and this MONEY can be wiped out in a second. It happened to many people. You work SO SO hard all your life and it's gone in a puff of smoke like natural disaster e.g. flooding, fire or it could be illness which eats up all of your savings because you have to spend so much for medical bills etc.

You know, every little savings count.
I buy my dry food and tinned food in bulk. Not only it saves me carrying because I get them delivered but also I can buy them in wholesale price. Go and search money saving forum where people exchange info on bargain deals and how to save money everywhere!

Having said all of this, have whatever wealth come your way. You don't have to be on welfare to feel happy. The point is, being happy regardless of what you have.