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margym0o
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posted June 11, 2015 09:15 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for margym0o     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
With my amateur eyes it seems like a decent chart. I like the kite formation. I'm still trying to figure out what this means though as I have one too.

Any themes jump out in her chart?

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Aries23Degrees
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posted June 11, 2015 02:37 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Aries23Degrees     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Well congratulations to her!!!!

I take it this is the chart of the baby?

I always think that the birth chart of the child is more reflective of circumstances and conditions surrounding the birth.

Our birth charts govern the peripheral vision within which we experience "life" and the relationship that we have with it.

I looked at Saturn in 2nd- This child may perceive the immediate environment as austere/cold.

Not exactly a "spoiled" child etc. The conditions at the time of birth may be perceived by this infant as financialy(2nd house) constrained(Saturn) or somewhat very restrictive.

Pluto in 3rd may make them extra sensitive to what is going on around them. They tend to "read" deeper into words spoken and actions around around them.

The parents must be specially vigilant with this baby as they tend to be extra sensitive to spoken words/sounds in their external environment.

It may be difficult to keep things with this infant as they will inadvertently "discover" things out all on their own(Pluto in 3rd).

This child may retain(absorb)a lot more than what they speak. And it could also happen that their speech is delayed- but not their ability to "experience" the environment i.e they may not be able to express themselves succinctly, but they definitely are more "in tune" with what's around them than most other children.

Neptune in 4th- the emotional mind(4th) is extremely absorbent and sensitive.

This child may be very impressionable and have things such as vivid thoughts and/or dreams.

He/she may be drawn to spiritual outlets in an effort to "relax" or make sense of what is going on in their inner mind.

Be especially careful of the love that they may develop for television/video games as may have an especially hypnotic appeal on them.

Rather indulge this infant in music, story books and legendary tales of faraway places.
They will feel most at peace when they can dream/escape somewhat from their present place and may enjoy sleeping a lot.

He/she may find it challenging to stick to a set schedule(Uranus in 6th). So you may find him/her will often have erratic sleep patterns or may not settle down to sleep easily.

There is a strongly excitable disposition that may result in health issues(6th) that involve the nervous system(Uranus).

This child may appreciate it if there is a change in their schedule and everyday activity i.e instead of going to the park everyday at 10, go at 1 and then visit the Zoo instead.

Try to indulge this restless spirit as much as you can or it'll lead to crankiness and the child wanting some sort of "stimulant" but not able to articulate what that stimulant should be exactly.

Sun/Mars conjunct in 8th.The role of the father/male figure is influential and may be a little complex-well at-least in the infants perception.

If the father figure is unavailable emotionally or lacking in presence,this may affect them and make the child more introverted and self contained.

With a Sun in 8th house child,the child wants to know itself(Sun) and when in 8th, the self is often difficult and complex to figure out.

So the interest in all that is hidden, "dark" and taboo may be a reflection on the child trying to know themselves metaphorically through these things i.e To "eject" the Sun out from the hidden place that is the 8th house-so to speak.

So if the father figure is superficial ,lacking in self awareness or inner "know how", the relationship between the child and the father figure may not develop well.

But if there is another person to fulfill this role and provide an outlet for the child's often deep and introspective personality,the child may shine.

The infant may quickly become aware of their own power(Sun)in moments of crises(8th) and this can lead them to use this knowledge of "self power" for good or ill.

So the role of the paternal figure is very instrumental within this regards.As it can help the child connect actions to consequences as where is there is great power, there is also great responsibility.

Many Sun in 8th children experience some kind of "loss" early on i.e death, separation, disruption etc and become very aware of mortality/changes and the ebb and flow of life that they are part and parcel of.

So this leads many to ask many question from which conventional wisdom cannot answer. Be very aware of this

All the best little one

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next to neptune
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posted June 11, 2015 03:08 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for next to neptune     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I think this child is going to be very wild and energetic - both because of all the fire/air and the sun/mars conjunction. This child never becomes tired lol! But is it an aries moon or pisces moon? I think pisces mooners is very easy kids... both me and my so got pisces moons and our parents both told us that we were sleeping all the time and almost never crying lol! It might be a little different if it's an aries moon...

All that gemini and nice and easy aspect points to a person who likes being social, having many friends and having many conversations. But that scorpio ascendant and sun in 8th house also points on a person who is very introverted.

All in all it's a very rich chart, with many things pointing in different directions... this is also what makes people very well-balanced in general.
I dont see any really hard aspect, but if it IS a pisces moon, the parents should be aware of their great sensitivity and rich emotional life.

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margym0o
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posted June 11, 2015 03:33 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for margym0o     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Aries23Degrees:
Well congratulations to her!!!!

I take it this is the chart of the baby?

I always think that the birth chart of the child is more reflective of circumstances and conditions surrounding the birth.

Our birth charts govern the peripheral vision within which we experience "life" and the relationship that we have with it.

I looked at Saturn in 2nd- This child may perceive the immediate environment as austere/cold.

Not exactly a "spoiled" child etc. The conditions at the time of birth may be perceived by this infant as financialy(2nd house) constrained(Saturn) or somewhat very restrictive.

Pluto in 3rd may make them extra sensitive to what is going on around them. They tend to "read" deeper into words spoken and actions around around them.

The parents must be specially vigilant with this baby as they tend to be extra sensitive to spoken words/sounds in their external environment.

It may be difficult to keep things with this infant as they will inadvertently "discover" things out all on their own(Pluto in 3rd).

This child may retain(absorb)a lot more than what they speak. And it could also happen that their speech is delayed- but not their ability to "experience" the environment i.e they may not be able to express themselves succinctly, but they definitely are more "in tune" with what's around them than most other children.

Neptune in 4th- the emotional mind(4th) is extremely absorbent and sensitive.

This child may be very impressionable and have things such as vivid thoughts and/or dreams.

He/she may be drawn to spiritual outlets in an effort to "relax" or make sense of what is going on in their inner mind.

Be especially careful of the love that they may develop for television/video games as may have an especially hypnotic appeal on them.

Rather indulge this infant in music, story books and legendary tales of faraway places.
They will feel most at peace when they can dream/escape somewhat from their present place and may enjoy sleeping a lot.

He/she may find it challenging to stick to a set schedule(Uranus in 6th). So you may find him/her will often have erratic sleep patterns or may not settle down to sleep easily.

There is a strongly excitable disposition that may result in health issues(6th) that involve the nervous system(Uranus).

This child may appreciate it if there is a change in their schedule and everyday activity i.e instead of going to the park everyday at 10, go at 1 and then visit the Zoo instead.

Try to indulge this restless spirit as much as you can or it'll lead to crankiness and the child wanting some sort of "stimulant" but not able to articulate what that stimulant should be exactly.

Sun/Mars conjunct in 8th.The role of the father/male figure is influential and may be a little complex-well at-least in the infants perception.

If the father figure is unavailable emotionally or lacking in presence,this may affect them and make the child more introverted and self contained.

With a Sun in 8th house child,the child wants to know itself(Sun) and when in 8th, the self is often difficult and complex to figure out.

So the interest in all that is hidden, "dark" and taboo may be a reflection on the child trying to know themselves metaphorically through these things i.e To "eject" the Sun out from the hidden place that is the 8th house-so to speak.

So if the father figure is superficial ,lacking in self awareness or inner "know how", the relationship between the child and the father figure may not develop well.

But if there is another person to fulfill this role and provide an outlet for the child's often deep and introspective personality,the child may shine.

The infant may quickly become aware of their own power(Sun)in moments of crises(8th) and this can lead them to use this knowledge of "self power" for good or ill.

So the role of the paternal figure is very instrumental within this regards.As it can help the child connect actions to consequences as where is there is great power, there is also great responsibility.

Many Sun in 8th children experience some kind of "loss" early on i.e death, separation, disruption etc and become very aware of mortality/changes and the ebb and flow of life that they are part and parcel of.

So this leads many to ask many question from which conventional wisdom cannot answer. Be very aware of this

All the best little one


Amazing insight as usual! I will be sure to pass this along! Thank you

She is a mixed child - mother is Lebanese and father is Canadian (white) - so a diverse background with very different familial influences on either side. The father is definitely more passive/aloof though very caring at times so I can see some of what you said being true. The mother is a very kind and compassionate person with a heart of gold so she will be her emotional rock.

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margym0o
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posted June 11, 2015 03:37 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for margym0o     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by next to neptune:
I think this child is going to be very wild and energetic - both because of all the fire/air and the sun/mars conjunction. This child never becomes tired lol! But is it an aries moon or pisces moon? I think pisces mooners is very easy kids... both me and my so got pisces moons and our parents both told us that we were sleeping all the time and almost never crying lol! It might be a little different if it's an aries moon...

All that gemini and nice and easy aspect points to a person who likes being social, having many friends and having many conversations. But that scorpio ascendant and sun in 8th house also points on a person who is very introverted.

All in all it's a very rich chart, with many things pointing in different directions... this is also what makes people very well-balanced in general.
I dont see any really hard aspect, but if it IS a pisces moon, the parents should be aware of their great sensitivity and rich emotional life.


I know it is hard to see with the asteroids added but she actually has a 5 degree Aries Moon

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