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astra7
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posted June 16, 2015 06:04 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for astra7     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
OK, so I am now feeling that I only attract people who get hooked/become obsessive in unhealthy way. I understand that what's in the natal cannot be remedied so, clever people out there, please give me an advice how I should handle this? Because at the moment, I don't see any other than becoming a hermit (to avoid all people) or die to escape from such people. This is the only option available to me.

But on second thoughts, I've been living like a hermit and still attract obsessive people e.g. neighbor who I don't have anything to do with!!! So Death is the only option.

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posted June 16, 2015 07:52 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for PlutoSurvivor     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
As soon as you become conscious of what is in your natal the remedy automatically begins. If we were not able to remedy our patterns and cycles and how we relate to everything around us there would be no point in having access to this information. So what is in the natal can be remedied IMO.

So you would need to show your Natal in order for us to to see where obsessions come into play. It could be many things. It's likely there may be boundary issues so others would come in to test your boundaries. There may be a need for attention and recognition so others would come in to pay attention to you. There may be unclear communication in expressing yourself, saying one thing and acting the opposite so others would misinterpret you. There may be an unconscious desire to be controlled. There may be an extreme need for freedom so that normal attention may be perceived as obsession. Lots of factors.

Look at Mercury, Virgo, 12th House to find out how your own brain and perception works, where your own obsessions may exist. Look at Scorpio, Mars and 10th House to see where your own determinition and will may be mirrored or reflected back at you. Look at Saturn, Capricorn and 8th House for established patterns that are asking for reevaluation. Look at asteroids to see what quality is attracting others to you in an obsessive way and work on owning that part of you. Look at Synastry to see what common aspects occur with those who are obsessed with you, and Draconic Synastry to understand what is commonly coming into play for "release of Karmic debt" or "unfinished business"

It could be many things, but hopefully this will get you started so that you can feel comfortable venturing back out into the world.

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posted June 16, 2015 08:12 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Doux Rêve     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Dying is the only option? Are you serious?

Can you explain what makes you think that you keep attracting obsessive people, and why is it so extreme? Perhaps they just have a crush on you and want to get to know you, but you see them as creepy and obsessive?

If you're truly in danger or bothered to the extreme, you can call the police or something, right?

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posted June 16, 2015 11:15 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Astra     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Doux Rêve:
Dying is the only option? Are you serious?

Can you explain what makes you think that you keep attracting obsessive people, and why is it so extreme? Perhaps they just have a crush on you and want to get to know you, but you see them as creepy and obsessive?

If you're truly in danger or bothered to the extreme, you can call the police or something, right?


I have the exact same issue with attracting obsessive people. Calling the police is useless. They cannot do anything unless you end up getting raped, beat up, murdered, etc. Restraining orders are useless if a stalker doesn't obey it. A girl in my neighborhood filed a restraining order against her boyfriend. He ended up murdering her and stuffed her body into a suitcase.

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posted June 16, 2015 12:21 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for astra7     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
PlutoSurvivor,
You speak like PlutoSurvivor...obviously.
It is a pluto problem because I have Venus trine Pluto, Venus trine Uranus and tPluto is currently sq my Sun. You have given me some direction to ponder about what it is...possibly quite a few of the things you mentioned. My mother even stalked me so....meh.

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Originally posted by Doux Rêve:
Dying is the only option? Are you serious?

Yes I am serious. Not committing suicide but the action I might take may backfire and I might die of consequence.

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Can you explain what makes you think that you keep attracting obsessive people, and why is it so extreme? Perhaps they just have a crush on you and want to get to know you, but you see them as creepy and obsessive?

The currently one is more than a crush. He comes around everyday to my property.

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If you're truly in danger or bothered to the extreme, you can call the police or something, right? [/B]

I can't go to the police because the things he does (magick) is not covered by the police. They would say, I am either mad or they don't deal with such matters laugh off because it only exists in movies. I have caught him do this so it's not in my head.

Thanks Astra.
I agree with you. Police was useless when I sought help previously on another person who wanted to kill me. Life is cheap these days so stalking is nothing. They might finally take notice after I die though (to fill in a few papers).


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posted June 16, 2015 12:27 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for LeeLoo2014     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
What do you mean by magick, Astra?

I know what you mean, from personal experience, having a stalker can be very creepy, and in some instances, you need to take action.
But your reaction to this seems a bit too emotional and even irrational, I have to say, no offense. All of us need to deal with some weird people in our lives, at a certain point, no need to panic about it, unless there is a very good reason for that.

What exactly does he do?

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posted June 16, 2015 04:37 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for astra7     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by LeeLoo2014:
What do you mean by magick, Astra?

I don't know what sort of system he is using but I was told by someone experienced that western magick. He pours oil in front of my door, do incantation, now he is using spirits and just made some offering on the spot where he left coins, too many to list here because he comes around everyday to do one thing or another.

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I know what you mean, from personal experience, having a stalker can be very creepy, and in some instances, you need to take action.

I think if someone is looking through a letterbox for no reason, that's creepy. Don't you think?

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But your reaction to this seems a bit too emotional and even irrational, I have to say, no offense. All of us need to deal with some weird people in our lives, at a certain point, no need to panic about it, unless there is a very good reason for that.

No panic but this person actually make me sick physically for no reason when I have been fine. He is constantly taking my energy and as you know, once you have depleted life force energy you were given for this life, that's the end of it. It's ok if 'I' spent it it but if he's making a hole constantly to drain my energy, now... would you just let him? No police will deal with this.

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What exactly does he do?[/B]

If I tell you what he does, will you be able to tell what they are? Are you an experienced magician? If not, I won't reveal it as I will just be wasting my time for everyone else's entertainment. Sorry, but this is serious.

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posted June 16, 2015 05:03 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for LeeLoo2014     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I'm sorry, Astra, but I have to say this: black/evil magic doesn't exist. "Magical powers" are connected to mind and heart power, and magical powers happen ONLY with the opening of the last upper 3 chakras, which are above Anahata. They are always associated with opening unconditional universal love first. There is no such thing as evil magical powers.

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posted June 16, 2015 05:32 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for astra7     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by LeeLoo2014:
I'm sorry, Astra, but I have to say this: black/evil magic doesn't exist. "Magical powers" are connected to mind and heart power, and magical powers happen ONLY with the opening of the last upper 3 chakras, which are above Anahata. They are always associated with opening unconditional universal love first. There is no such thing as evil magical powers.

I take it you have no experience with entities and such? Those that manifest physically. I have.

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posted June 16, 2015 07:47 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for ReadingTheStars95     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by astra7:
[QUOTE]Originally posted by LeeLoo2014:
[b]I'm sorry, Astra, but I have to say this: black/evil magic doesn't exist. "Magical powers" are connected to mind and heart power, and magical powers happen ONLY with the opening of the last upper 3 chakras, which are above Anahata. They are always associated with opening unconditional universal love first. There is no such thing as evil magical powers.


I take it you have no experience with entities and such? Those that manifest physically. I have.

[/B][/QUOTE]

astra7.. I am really sorry you are going through this. Being in a position like that isn't easy, because not everyone has experienced Magick firsthand, whether it be directed at the individual or someone else they love.. So.. It usually isn't all that easy to get support. Honestly, I think part of the problem is people are afraid to accept the possibility of Magick because then it makes them vulnerable. It's also much easier to believe there are no such thing as evil entities (whether spiritual, or physical..)

Do you work with crystals at all? There are some pretty good 'psychic protection' crystals out there..

Of course, I understand very well how powerful intention and the mind can be.. But, even in saying that, there are times when we can use help.

Do you ever do any smudging or anything?

Wishing you much love, peace, health, and wealth! I hope things start getting better for you!

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posted June 17, 2015 05:44 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for LeeLoo2014     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by ReadingTheStars95:
astra7.. I am really sorry you are going through this. Being in a position like that isn't easy, because not everyone has experienced Magick firsthand, whether it be directed at the individual or someone else they love.. So.. It usually isn't all that easy to get support. Honestly, I think part of the problem is people are afraid to accept the possibility of Magick because then it makes them vulnerable. It's also much easier to believe there are no such thing as evil entities (whether spiritual, or physical..)

Do you work with crystals at all? There are some pretty good 'psychic protection' crystals out there..

Of course, I understand very well how powerful intention and the mind can be.. But, even in saying that, there are times when we can use help.

Do you ever do any smudging or anything?

Wishing you much love, peace, health, and wealth! I hope things start getting better for you!


As a psychic and "experienced magician" I am telling you evil is only in people's actions and in people's minds, their own negative thoughts. There are no ghosts, no evil entities, no black magic, no possibility to do evil to another through thoughts or rituals or "spells".

True psychic powers and the ability to manifest reality through thoughts are exclusively associated with light, spirituality and unconditional universal love, the opening of all chakras, which always passes through the heart chakra.

Whoever is selling you crystals or whatever to protect you from evil magicians or entities is scamming you.

But of course, you can go on and buy them, it's not like I can change this with a message here.

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posted June 17, 2015 08:48 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for astra7     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by ReadingTheStars95:
astra7.. I am really sorry you are going through this. Being in a position like that isn't easy, because not everyone has experienced Magick firsthand, whether it be directed at the individual or someone else they love.. So.. It usually isn't all that easy to get support. Honestly, I think part of the problem is people are afraid to accept the possibility of Magick because then it makes them vulnerable. It's also much easier to believe there are no such thing as evil entities (whether spiritual, or physical..)

Do you work with crystals at all? There are some pretty good 'psychic protection' crystals out there..

Of course, I understand very well how powerful intention and the mind can be.. But, even in saying that, there are times when we can use help.

Do you ever do any smudging or anything?

Wishing you much love, peace, health, and wealth! I hope things start getting better for you!



ReadingTheStars95,
Thanks for your understanding and your prayer greatly received.
Magick isn't all about candle/incense burning or using a wand. It could simply be by thinking and many people do this without realising. e.g. cursing in the form of road rage lol But those interested go extra mile to use portions etc to strengthen their 'intention' or energy. I guess it's like having a sex with romantic candles around to boost the act! LOL Sure you can have sex in a dark or have candles around to enhance the mood.

Everything is energy in this world and 'thinking' of particular things, whether love, hatred or obsession brings foward a particular vibration/energy.
And we live in a dualistic world which means that where there is light (day light), there is darkness (night time) or North & South pole etc... So evil does exists. How can you say, there aren't negative/bad people in this world?! If you ever watched a movie Devil's Advocate which you can watch on potlocker free, a woman shows her husband red scratch marks. Well that happened to me and other things so I know when there is a presence of entities around me and I know how to send entities away but not humans! lol Also I have psychic friends and they will tell me when I know. So it's not just in my head. The fact have been confirmed or witness by others.

I didn't get on with crystals but I do smudging with sage and that's ok but I am using other heavy duty stuff to cleans hex off me. But this guy keeps coming around to put more mud on me each day, so this is relentless, never ending.

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posted June 17, 2015 08:53 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for astra7     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by LeeLoo2014:
As a psychic and "experienced magician" I am telling you evil is only in people's actions and in people's minds, their own negative thoughts. There are no ghosts, no evil entities, no black magic, no possibility to do evil to another through thoughts or rituals.

True psychic powers and the ability to manifest reality through thoughts are exclusively associated with light, spirituality and unconditional universal love, the opening of all chakras, which always passes through the heart chakra.

Whoever is selling you crystals or whatever to protect you from evil magicians or entities is scamming you.

But of course, you can go on and buy them, it's not like I can change this with a message here.



ah~ I used to be a part of love 'n' light brigade. lol

LeeLoo2014,
Do you not know, there are information/wisdom encoded within the crystals? Crystals come from the mother earth, the goddess Sophia i.e. Gaia.
Of course, crystals aren't for everyone and those attuned to it can only access info. This is normal because everyone has a different streak.

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posted June 17, 2015 09:42 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for LeeLoo2014     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I absolutely agree with you on this one, Astra. Crystals, like any crystalline structures, can reflect and store the surrounding energy. But they only reflect what you give them, they reflect you. They cannot guard you from "evil" thoughts or "spells" coming from another, for there is no such power.

Power is associated with knowledge, and knowledge is associated with love

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posted June 17, 2015 10:41 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for astra7     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by LeeLoo2014:
I absolutely agree with you on this one, Astra. Crystals, like any crystalline structures, can reflect and store the surrounding energy. But they only reflect what you give them, they reflect you. They cannot guard you from "evil" thoughts or "spells" coming from another, for there is no such power.

Power is associated with knowledge, and knowledge is associated with love



No no, you have got it wrong. That's not what I meant. The wisdom of Gaia is encoded within the crystals and it's not about reflection of what YOU have within yourself. It's more than that. But one needs to be in tune with the vibration of the crystal realm to be able to access this. Equally some psychics/intuitives are in tune with other realm to the point they can communicate with the deceased or entities etc.

The wisdom can give you protection though you are the one who needs to take action obviously. It's like CCTV, it gives you some protection but you are the one who needs to take action depending on the situation. Like I get protection/wisdom from my guide in time of real danger. e.g. they saved me from experiencing intending gas explosion.

Do you realise, when you say, 'there is no evil power coming from others' you are also negating that there is no such thing as love. People can't give you love?? Energy is just energy, it's us who determine whether it's nasty or nice. Yes, some find it enjoyable to kill people but that's another subject! Of course, energy exists.

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posted June 17, 2015 12:13 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for LeeLoo2014     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I agree with you, Astra. Some people have negative thoughts/actions and their presence is draining, energetically. Apart from the mean things they say or do. But what I am trying to say is that there is no power of negative thought over another: you can't influence someone's life through "evil" thoughts or "spells", for the reasons I have mentioned.

Explaining the process with a few details:

The highest power is mind manifesting matter (leading to wishes coming true through the power of thoughts/words) and it resides in Sahasrara. It is mentioned in the siddhis as the highest power. Once you have that, you have all siddhis at your disposal, logically. You have become what is currently described as a "magician", yes.

You cannot open Sahasrara unless you open Anahata first.

The moment you open Anahata, you experience unconditional love and care for all beings and a strong desire to do only good. Only after that, the upper chakras may begin to open and you reach the level of manifesting thought, which is necessary for "spells" (manifesting matter).

But even when you reach this power, of wishes turning into reality, not all your wishes come true; only those which are the best outcome for all the parties involved; those in tune with the truth. The important fact is that, once you are there, you are already in tune with the truth and the best outcome, so your wishes are the right ones. The power for wish manifestation is not given without the power of love and knowledge, truth, and making the right wishes. The world would have disappeared a long time ago if it had been otherwise, if you look at it in a logical way.

That is why black magic and "evil magicians" don't exist, for such powers always come after the opening of the heart center.

Spells, good or bad, don't exist either, only wish making and manifestation. The only part in a prayer or spell that works is not the ritual itself (which in fact helps you to be grounded, to focus, sometimes), not the "ingredients", but the power of wish manifestation. (the core principle of law of attraction when it comes to thought processes).

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posted June 17, 2015 02:50 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for astra7     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by LeeLoo2014:
I agree with you, Astra. Some people have negative thoughts/actions and their presence is draining, energetically. Apart from the mean things they say or do. But what I am trying to say is that there is no power of negative thought over another: you can't influence someone's life through "evil" thoughts or "spells", for the reasons I have mentioned.

Explaining the process with a few details:

The highest power is[b] mind manifesting matter (leading to wishes coming true through the power of thoughts/words) and it resides in Sahasrara. It is mentioned in the siddhis as the highest power. Once you have that, you have all siddhis at your disposal, logically. You have become what is currently described as a "magician", yes.

You cannot open Sahasrara unless you open Anahata first.

The moment you open Anahata, you experience unconditional love and care for all beings and a strong desire to do only good. Only after that, the upper chakras may begin to open and you reach the level of manifesting thought, which is necessary for "spells" (manifesting matter).

But even when you reach this power, of wishes turning into reality, not all your wishes come true; only those which are the best outcome for all the parties involved; those in tune with the truth. The important fact is that, once you are there, you are already in tune with the truth and the best outcome, so your wishes are the right ones. The power for wish manifestation is not given without the power of love and knowledge, truth, and making the right wishes. The world would have disappeared a long time ago if it had been otherwise, if you look at it in a logical way.

That is why black magic and "evil magicians" don't exist, for such powers always come after the opening of the heart center.

Spells, good or bad, don't exist either, only wish making and manifestation. The only part in a prayer or spell that works is not the ritual itself (which in fact helps you to be grounded, to focus, sometimes), not the "ingredients", but the power of wish manifestation. (the core principle of law of attraction when it comes to thought processes).

[/B]



What you are saying doesn't make sense to me but it's ok for me if you want to go by the 'belief'. I tend to go by my own experience which is truly happened. You can tell me about open/close chakra but they open and close at any time. In fact, these people who are cursing on the street mostly likely don't know what chakra is. lol

I also don't understand your saying people who hurts another being is no evil because this stalker has been hurting me and I have done nothing after all these years. He just kept throwing magick at me and making me ill which doctors scratch their heads. He never says nasty things. I rarely see him eye to eye but he attacks me from distance, with magick that is. Those that does magic don't have to get into an argument. If they don't like you, they just go ahead and kill you. Police won't have anything on you because as you say....magick doesn't exist. lol If you think it's all in MY HEAD then, how come he was affecting me when I didn't know that he was doing this? I would be intrigued by your answer. It only came to light last month that he was doing magick on me because I caught him red handed.

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posted June 18, 2015 02:21 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for PixieJane     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by astra7:
If I tell you what he does, will you be able to tell what they are? Are you an experienced magician? If not, I won't reveal it as I will just be wasting my time for everyone else's entertainment. Sorry, but this is serious.

I MIGHT. It's been years since I was learning the occult from a primarily (but not exclusively) Western Mystery Tradition, and I've read up on bits of other kinds. I've learned a lot in that time, but I've also become very rusty in it, especially the kind of magick you're talking about which I never really practiced myself, only learned how to deal with it.

I can say that I'd be surprised if this guy didn't have (at least to himself) a compelling reason for doing this as it's both dangerous and tiring, if he'd do it for a lark then he's probably not very good at it and used to spinning his wheels, though if your own aura is weaker than his and/or you're too psychic without practice in turning that off then he could affect you, though probably not as much as you think. If you want to ask me more about this then I'd also want to know what is he trying to accomplish? If general harm, then why?

And I was told that should I ever feel like cursing someone for some reason then just make the target THINK I had and the victim will essentially curse themselves. It's much easier and less risky to one's self. Perhaps he's doing something like that, more theatrical and psychological with occult trappings. It's also entirely possible that HE'S crazy but he's freaked you out because of your past experiences. (Also be aware that you can actually think yourself sick and this can get pretty extreme, that is you don't need to be cursed for it to happen, only think you are or be certain you're sick for some other reason.)


As for what to do about it, whether he's playing mind games or genuinely attacking you on a psychic level the first thing to do is calm down and take your mind off him as much as you can. Get with friends (the kind who make you feel better), use media (books, movies, etc) that are designed to make you feel good (no horror!), go to a relaxing spot, meditate (but don't open yourself up, rather seal yourself off), if you truly have faith in a religion (AND--very important--it makes you feel better instead of worse) then those rituals can help you (I forget why but the first 8 Psalms are supposed to be good for Christian oriented occultists warding off negative influences and psychic attack).

As for actual occult help...three things come instantly to mind.

A short and easy one is to carry a small mirror with you. Somehow you should consecrate it in a way that feels right to you so that it's strong and it "reflects back" any negative energy and magick.

Another is the witches bottle, which you can find out more here:

http://www.earthwitchery.com/witch-bottle.html

And

http://www.dianic-wicca.com/witch-bottle-spells.html

And finally, poppets:
http://paganwiccan.about.com/od/poppetmagic/p/Poppet_Intro.htm

More: http://paganwiccan.about.com/od/poppetmagic/ss/Build_A_Poppet.htm

My very first experience with witchcraft was doing this, and it was suggested because of an extremely traumatic episode and a person who terrified me who practiced a malicious sort of magick (and imagined himself a "vampyre"). I made a poppet of the person, and since I had nothing of the person I instead drew pictures with the name while imagining the essence of that person put into me flowing through into the drawing that I sewed into the poppet, as well as items related to the parts of me traumatized.

Two experienced occultists took me to a lonely beach where we chanted and they had me burn it (and seeing my pain and damage and any power held over me which by then was strictly in my own mind flowing away with the smoke) and it turned flashy: the doll burned as if it had been doused in something (and I was the one to put it down so I know it wasn't) and a bird landed nearby as it started, stared until it was done, and then flew away immediately after it was done.

Not everyone gets something flashy, I was just lucky and had two very experienced occultists with me, but it can work without anything flashy.

Also, be aware of anything that doesn't belong to you that is in your home, especially if it's metal (though it doesn't have to be). Keys that you don't know what they're for that have come into your possession recently are a classic as the metal is useful for occult operations and keys are symbolic for unlocking defenses so if it's already inside your home then the one working evil magic would at least feel more confident in his workings (which should make them more powerful--though not necessarily powerful enough, mind you), though if you do find something like that and get rid of it then he's working on a false belief that at some level he realizes (as he's attuned to it at a subconscious level--interesting enough skilled occultists tend to make poor psychics simply because they have to defend themselves from the energies they evoke and thus must endure themselves if even for a moment among other dangers) and so it works in your favor even if he isn't consciously aware that his link has been lost.

And that reminds me, the Cord Cutting spell, which this seems pretty close to what I recall (and easily adapted to your situation):
http://rohannaravenwing.webs.com/cuttingcordsspell.htm

I hope something here helps you. You don't need to explain what this guy is doing if you don't want, only if you have a question in regards to the specifics of what he's doing.

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posted June 18, 2015 08:07 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for astra7     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by PixieJane:
I MIGHT. It's been years since I was learning the occult from a primarily (but not exclusively) Western Mystery Tradition, and I've read up on bits of other kinds. I've learned a lot in that time, but I've also become very rusty in it, especially the kind of magick you're talking about which I never really practiced myself, only learned how to deal with it.

Wow PixieJane, Thank you so much for the information!! Rusty? Your knowledge is gold.

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I can say that I'd be surprised if this guy didn't have (at least to himself) a compelling reason for doing this as it's both dangerous and tiring, if he'd do it for a lark then he's probably not very good at it and used to spinning his wheels, though if your own aura is weaker than his and/or you're too psychic without practice in turning that off then he could affect you, though probably not as much as you think. If you want to ask me more about this then I'd also want to know what is he trying to accomplish? If general harm, then why?

His purpose? I think it's a weird combination of things. Firstly, I think he is compelled by me! I think he wonders how I know things. I have a few ace cards I want to flash but I can't yet! My guide shows me things and because of that almost impossible information (unless you pay a lot of money to obtain it) comes easy to me. For example, if I want to see someone but I don't have any contact details e.g. tel# or address, all I do is think about them and I will either bump into them or they will get in touch with me somehow. There are other things but I won't reveal it in public forum in case the C**T is reading. Secondly, I think he was using/stealing my psychic energy for his own use which I will talk about below in the appropriate section. Thirdly, he wanted me to bend over for him, he likes controlling people and I'll have none of that so he punishes me till I beg. meh, the C**T doesn't own me.

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And I was told that should I ever feel like cursing someone for some reason then just make the target THINK I had and the victim will essentially curse themselves. It's much easier and less risky to one's self.

Yes, this was something I was thinking of doing. Voodoo doll with sticks in them? LOL

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Perhaps he's doing something like that, more theatrical and psychological with occult trappings. It's also entirely possible

I don't think so. He was doing it for real. If it was just for a show, he wouldn't go about doing incantation and all that.

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that HE'S crazy but he's freaked you out because of your past experiences. (Also be aware that you can actually think yourself sick and this can get pretty extreme, that is you don't need to be cursed for it to happen, only think you are or be certain you're sick for some other reason.)

Yes, I am aware that one can curse oneself but before I found out that he has been laying tricks on me, I was actually truly trying to find a cause of my illness medically so I wasn't cursing myself by worrying about magcik against me for all those years!

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As for what to do about it, whether he's playing mind games or genuinely attacking you on a psychic level the first thing to do is calm down and take your mind off him as much as you can. Get with friends (the kind who make you feel better), use media (books, movies, etc) that are designed to make you feel good (no horror!), go to a relaxing spot, meditate (but don't open yourself up, rather seal yourself off), if you truly have faith in a religion (AND--very important--it makes you feel better instead of worse) then those rituals can help you (I forget why but the first 8 Psalms are supposed to be good for Christian oriented occultists warding off negative influences and psychic attack).

Very good advice but it's hard when he comes around to drop off things, I have to get into the gear to figure out how to get rid of it and all the preparation that takes place. It's literally 24/7 operation at the moment simply because of sear number of tricks he brings everyday. Getting rid of them, cleansing myself and property, buying supplies etc... all takes time.
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Mars/Pluto Midpoint with Moon:

"Principle: Intense aggression that may even be overpowering, or obsessive. The ability to get an extreme amount of work accomplished. Doing things that affect the whole world, or at least a great number of people. The desire to work toward a breakthrough. Domination of others, or running over them in an uncaring fashion. Extreme violence or brutality.

Process: The intensification of one’s actions so that one may perceive both their constructive and destructive aspects. The realization of one’s power to effect deep and profound changes.

Moon: One’s insecurities are compensated for through hard and/or obsessive work. To express emotions with extreme aggression or passion."



^^^ garrr
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As for actual occult help...three things come instantly to mind.

A short and easy one is to carry a small mirror with you. Somehow you should consecrate it in a way that feels right to you so that it's strong and it "reflects back" any negative energy and magick.



I carry a compact but it has lid on it. Is that OK? I am also wearing a talisman against hex.

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Another is the witches bottle, which you can find out more here:

http://www.earthwitchery.com/witch-bottle.html

And

http://www.dianic-wicca.com/witch-bottle-spells.html

And finally, poppets:
http://paganwiccan.about.com/od/poppetmagic/p/Poppet_Intro.htm

More: http://paganwiccan.about.com/od/poppetmagic/ss/Build_A_Poppet.htm

My very first experience with witchcraft was doing this, and it was suggested because of an extremely traumatic episode and a person who terrified me who practiced a malicious sort of magick (and imagined himself a "vampyre"). I made a poppet of the person, and since I had nothing of the person I instead drew pictures with the name while imagining the essence of that person put into me flowing through into the drawing that I sewed into the poppet, as well as items related to the parts of me traumatized.

Two experienced occultists took me to a lonely beach where we chanted and they had me burn it (and seeing my pain and damage and any power held over me which by then was strictly in my own mind flowing away with the smoke) and it turned flashy: the doll burned as if it had been doused in something (and I was the one to put it down so I know it wasn't) and a bird landed nearby as it started, stared until it was done, and then flew away immediately after it was done.

Not everyone gets something flashy, I was just lucky and had two very experienced occultists with me, but it can work without anything flashy.



Thank you for the links. I will study.

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Also, be aware of anything that doesn't belong to you that is in your home, especially if it's metal (though it doesn't have to be). Keys that you don't know what they're for that have come into your possession recently are a classic as the metal is useful for occult operations and keys are symbolic for unlocking defenses so if it's already inside your home then the one working evil magic would at least feel more confident in his workings (which should make them more powerful--though not necessarily powerful enough, mind you), though if you do find something like that and get rid of it then he's working on a false belief that at some level he realizes (as he's attuned to it at a subconscious level--interesting enough skilled occultists tend to make poor psychics simply because they have to defend themselves from the energies they evoke and thus must endure themselves if even for a moment among other dangers) and so it works in your favor even if he isn't consciously aware that his link has been lost.

Now, this is interesting that you mention about key!!! I've been looking for information but I just couldn't find it but I think you hit the nail on the coffin! YES, he does use key. The first one I got rid of. Then he placed another one and I want to tell you how he did it might interest you but I feel I shouldn't reveal this in public forum. He is also keen on nails. Actually, come to think of it, it's silly of him to leave stuff around because I can use them for my advantage...which I've learned recently. If I wanted to psychically tune in with anybody, I won't be using a key. I just think of them and that's it! There is no need for a key. LOL He's started to use a lame entity recently (not demons). It's very passive, not like active demons but it is placed to cause arguements I think because since he made offering of coins and sweets, people stop by in front of our house to have bust up arguments! They don't argue anywhere else but always in front of our house. Anyway, I was going to leave a message for ******* that the entity wasn't happy with his offering. lol
Also, there are other stuffs he brings and you can probably make sense of what they are but I don't think I should tell these things here either.

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And that reminds me, the Cord Cutting spell, which this seems pretty close to what I recall (and easily adapted to your situation):
http://rohannaravenwing.webs.com/cuttingcordsspell.htm

I hope something here helps you. You don't need to explain what this guy is doing if you don't want, only if you have a question in regards to the specifics of what he's doing.



Thank you so much for all the advice. I am very grateful.

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Originally posted by ReadingTheStars95:
I originally kind of made that point about crystals in my original point, but edited out.

Ah ok. fine.

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Crystals don't do all the work by any means. I hope everything works out for you, and that he ends up leaving you alone. doesn't he have anything better to do?

He has a family but I guess I am more important for him. *rolleyes*
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I don't understand why some people love terrorizing other people so much.

Me either. Some people are simply deranged, twisted totally.

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Glad it was helpful.

Compact mirror is fine.

I forgot about nails but those are about as common as keys. For trying to harm someone coffin nails are especially popular, though in this day and age he'd probably have to make his own coffin (for an animal unless he broke the laws put in place through contributions by the funeral industry and would rather sell things that are a lot more expensive than nails). Main thing is that these nails are typically put in the ground where someone will walk over them. That means dirt since he can't do that on concrete or asphalt, but under the doormat or porch will work as well. They're not just left there, they're stuck into the ground where usually only the head shows (which may possibly have a bit of dirt over it, but to work the magick it's best if there's actual physical contact between the nail and person, though preferably without the person aware of it).

Another variant is using such nails in say a poppet that's combined with something like hair or other biological samples...there are plenty of possible ways to get it but your trash (containing many usable parts for that type of magic and often also include private info, contacts, addresses, billing and account info, and even info to when you won't be home) is the most likely source to get it. In this case practice what caution you can and also make use of the cord cutting spell, witches bottle, and your own poppet to protect yourself, burning it just before the new moon is usually ideal assuming you're doing it to destroy any magick he's using on you.

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He placed 9 nails together with the key and I knew then that these everyday items were not there by coincidence. There were also nine-bricks and other heavy objects...to weigh me down I guess. At the moment, I hardly have strength to walk around in the house as I am made so tired. Problem with poppet is that he keeps bringing new charged items so I'd be forever burning the poppet. Also he loves burying stuff to the point that he started visiting neiboring gardens and 'gifting' plants and I know there is no good intention behind it either. Frankly, I don't know what and where he burried stuff so I don't know how I can make them neutral without removal of the objects and cleansing the area.

I have done a cord cutting but he won't let go of it. I am thinking may be I should let his wife know how much time he is spending on me and ask if they will get a divorce. lol She'd go bullistic but may be I am beginning to think WE should become an official item since he is so keen. Then I'll get a hands on his property. mwahahaha She won't like it a bit because I'll make sure she will get 0.

But I personally think he picked a wrong person. Three of my neigbors died, two upstairs, one downstairs. He might be next if he continues to meddle with me. Don't ask me how or why it happened....I have no clue. Let's call it coincideces. I do have Hakate partile my Sun though so may be I have her protection from my previous practices.

Anyway, I did horary and I am still hexed.

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