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astroblues
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posted June 17, 2015 12:37 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for astroblues     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
How would this transit manifest itself? Trying to figure out what this might mean. A friend of mine has this approaching in July and he's asked me to help explain the effects/situations to him.

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posted June 17, 2015 01:54 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for cchampliss2     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I don't quite have an answer to this but I have a friend, or a lot of friends who are experiencing this transit as well and they have all just graduated college. The friends who have made it through this transit, basically said after college, they were finding out where to go, what to do with their lives. All the time and energy they put into their lives for the past 7 years before that transit, were put to the test. That involved everything from career to relationships. I've read though, that those themes are tested during those times, but the bigger ones usually reflect the lessons in which your natal Saturn in placed.

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astroblues
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posted June 17, 2015 03:19 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for astroblues     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Thanks for your insight cchamp.

My friend is 36/7 years old. I guess this would be a time to test if lessons were learned from the Saturn Return then.

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posted June 17, 2015 11:01 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for 3l3n     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I will be going through this transit beggining from early December. I would also like to hear others insights and experiences.

Unfortunately Saturn will also be very close in conjuction to my Moon at the same time :/

Next summer he will make another pass when in retrograde, expecting to see if lessons were learnt I guess.

tr.Saturn in 6th on Moon sq. Saturn in 2nd.
Work and finances will probably be the issue, and not problems related to health(emotional) hopefully

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posted June 17, 2015 02:54 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for mirage29     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Saturn square Saturn helps with the Individuation process in life. (Separating who you are and what you will value individually, as distinct from others who have been part of your life & experience till now.)

I see the square-symbol (in this aspect) like it's a picture of a 'starter's' block that foot-racers use-- the blockage and irritations and conflicts you have can help you push free and give you forward momentum.

So you, in one way, are being asked (by what once-was in time, by 'authority') to 'leave behind' the former things to take steps (psychologically, materially, even spiritually) towards preparing a Destiny you'll catch up with a little farther down the road.

Decide on a set of standards and Values you want to keep in your definition of 'who' you are and how you want to express that (standards). ....

{BHClow} says that Saturn in the 2nd House has a special ability to ground into materiality and to 'manifest' a future BY what you 'choose' to keep in your overall thought-patterns.

Saturn may also from time to time strip away all your 'material goods'.... So, what standard of measures will you choose to hold towards your own self-worth, self-value, self-esteem IF you were down to nothing else but a backpack of immediate supplies?

'How would you think about yourself'? How will you 'emotionally' assess and handle the times of lack of material prosperity?

There are all kinds of ways to be prosperous that don't include just material goods and supports.

-- Be Kind to yourself. Toss out thoughts of defeat after you've emotionally processed the things. Hold on to the Thoughts of Possibility and Hope for Good Future.

(A Single Hope can become contagion for Possible-Futures of Hope for Everyone! )

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posted June 17, 2015 03:05 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Sven555     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by astroblues:
How would this transit manifest itself? Trying to figure out what this might mean. A friend of mine has this approaching in July and he's asked me to help explain the effects/situations to him.

What sign is his Saturn in? Which house(s) does Saturn rule? Where is Saturn placed? What aspects does Saturn make to this other planets?

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Kannon McAfee
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posted June 17, 2015 03:27 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Kannon McAfee     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
It isn't about how it manifests. It is about what it gives you opportunity to do.

Saturn's transit square natal Saturn times a rework of your load of responsibility so that (especially as a 21-22 year-old) you can test yourself in the real world against real expectations, responsibilities, bosses and the law -- in a more direct fashion (in modern) society than what you experienced as a child. Expect that some remaining childish impulses may be challenged by the law or authority figures or general expectations.

You may find you've had unrealistic expectations and need to rework some of your aims or goals. That is okay. Its normal. You may find the path you've chosen for now does not allow you the leisure time or home/love life you'd prefer. Just remember this is not an ending place, but a brief period (usually several months) of deepening your practical understanding and how your priorities should be set. They can be reset later once some critical work is achieved.

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posted June 18, 2015 12:24 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for astroblues     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
His saturn is in Leo. Birth time isn't accurate, so not 100% sure where it's placed in the chart . . . but based on approximate birth time natal Saturn is in the 7th house. Saturn (in scorpio) is currently transiting the 10th House.

Natal aspects include:

Sun Semi-Square Saturn (2.5 degrees)
Moon Square Saturn (5.9 degrees)
Mercury Semi-Sextile Saturn (1.2 degrees)
Saturn Semi-Square Pluto (1.6 degrees)
Saturn Inconjunct Ascendent (0.2 degrees)

He also experienced a Saturn Opposition Moon transit earlier this year (Jan-May, then coming again Oct-Nov). He also currently has a Saturn Trine Mercury Transit which started last Nov-Dec, and this year from Jan-September, which is currently retrograding.

Natally, Moon is in Gemini in his 4th house. Mercury in Cancer in 7th house.

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posted June 18, 2015 02:02 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for 3l3n     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by mirage29:
Saturn square Saturn helps with the Individuation process in life. (Separating who you are and what you will value individually, as distinct from others who have been part of your life & experience till now.)

I see the square-symbol (in this aspect) like it's a picture of a 'starter's' block that foot-racers use-- the blockage and irritations and conflicts you have can help you push free and give you forward momentum.

So you, in one way, are being asked (by what once-was in time, by 'authority') to 'leave behind' the former things to take steps (psychologically, materially, even spiritually) towards preparing a Destiny you'll catch up with a little farther down the road.

Decide on a set of standards and Values you want to keep in your definition of 'who' you are and how you want to express that (standards). ....

{BHClow} says that Saturn in the 2nd House has a special ability to ground into materiality and to 'manifest' a future BY what you 'choose' to keep in your overall thought-patterns.

Saturn may also from time to time strip away all your 'material goods'.... So, what standard of measures will you choose to hold towards your own self-worth, self-value, self-esteem IF you were down to nothing else but a backpack of immediate supplies?

'How would you think about yourself'? How will you 'emotionally' assess and handle the times of lack of material prosperity?

There are all kinds of ways to be prosperous that don't include just material goods and supports.

-- Be Kind to yourself. Toss out thoughts of defeat after you've emotionally processed the things. Hold on to the Thoughts of Possibility and Hope for Good Future.

(A Single Hope can become contagion for Possible-Futures of Hope for Everyone! )


Nicely explained.Thank you very much mirage

Saturn may also from time to time strip away all your 'material goods'.... So, what standard of measures will you choose to hold towards your own self-worth, self-value, self-esteem IF you were down to nothing else but a backpack of immediate supplies?

To be honest, I've been dealing with this several years now.-nothing else but a backpack of supplies. Saturn Rx in 2nd

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3l3n
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posted June 18, 2015 03:09 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for 3l3n     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
And thank you astroblues for bringing up this topic
I also needed some answers regarding this specific transit

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Belage
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posted June 19, 2015 08:01 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Belage     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
sometimes can manifest as karmic restrictions. Also the person's basic insecurities are confronted by what seem like outside circumstances, but really their own doing. The person needs to take a long hard look at what they are doing and their fears. Can be a time of karmic payback.

Rachel Dolezal is currently going through this transit. Transiting Saturn at 29 degree scorpio is squaring her natal saturn at 29 degree Leo.

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Randall
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posted June 21, 2015 11:56 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Randall     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Good info.

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