posted June 25, 2015 01:18 PM            

Anyway, what I've noticed with people with this placement along with pluto being in hard aspect to personal planets, is that their need for power, emotional control, etc is 10x stronger than others born with Pluto direct in their natal charts. They tend to manipulate, deceive, and hurt others only to guard their own feelings. Being viewed as emotionally in control and indifferent tops true love for these people or at least that'z what I got out of the many relationships I've had with both males and females with this placement. I might also need to mention that they were also heavily fixed in element so my response might be biased even more because of that.

posted June 28, 2015 03:27 AM            

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Originally posted by SDragon:
I have pluto retrograde in the eighth house. It's also trine my asc, so I definitely know that others can be intimidated by me when first meeting. Almost like they know there's a hidden level of reserve and inner strength. Not sure where the manipulation, deceit and hurtfulness would come from but I'm not that way. In fact, I would say pluto retrograde gives one an ability to be able to detect and handle those types of pressures, as they're more felt and internalized.

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I have Pluto retrograde in Sagittarius 8H at an exact trine with my Aries Ascendant. I can relate to most of what you wrote, however, I have Saturn conjunct Ascendant and Moon in 1H so the reserve is there but that hidden level of inner strength is less apparent in my appearance/demeanor, rather, it manifests in my presence/vibe. I attract a lottt of Cardinal energy. Its quite entertaining to see Cardinal people become empowered in my presence; even the Capricorns & Cancers let their hair down, absorb my energy (of which I have plenty to share), and express themselves without any inhibitions restricting them.