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Topic: A Question About Orbs
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midnightvenus Knowflake Posts: 541 From: outerspace Registered: Sep 2014
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posted June 25, 2015 04:57 PM
How wide is the orb you use for major aspects between the Sun and outer planets?IP: Logged |
ReadingTheStars95 Knowflake Posts: 388 From: Registered: Jun 2014
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posted June 25, 2015 06:03 PM
quote: Originally posted by midnightvenus: How wide is the orb you use for major aspects between the Sun and outer planets?
Kinda depends on a few things.. Like.. Dignity could make a bit of a difference(even though, I can't really think of any major situations where it would.. I'm sure it could though in the correct situations though..).. Whether or not the planets are involved in a grand formation... I've read Neptune has the highest orb of influence.. Then Pluto, if I am correct. Personally, I think the absolute furthest you should go with pretty much any aspect is 7 degrees. 5 is usually max in my opinion, but I've seen things being felt up to 7 degree orbs. You may be able to to 8 degrees with an opposition, but that is pushing it a bit in my opinion. You may want to consider the concept of harmonics too.. Which would make the opposition and the trine the 2 aspects after a conjunction.. So, I usually give those 3 the loosest orbs.. However, I've seen people use very loose orbs with squares, so I'm not certain.. IP: Logged |
GemBird82 Knowflake Posts: 613 From: Female bird from France Registered: Feb 2014
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posted June 25, 2015 06:16 PM
~ If you are using Astro.com I think the most practical solution would be reducing orb facts to a 75% yup! Problem solved ~ piece of cake ~  * Just my 2 cents
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Kannon McAfee Knowflake Posts: 844 From: Portland, OR - USA Registered: Oct 2011
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posted June 25, 2015 07:40 PM
Orbs for aspects depend on the planets involved, and the kind of aspect. Most of us round things off normally to around 7-8*. It actually depends on whether the Sun, for example is involved in a dual aspect in longitude and declination, say with Uranus. If the Sun is at say 5 Capricorn in wide conjunction with Uranus at 27 Sagittarius, but is in parallel at 23 south, then essentially the conjunction is more dynamic than normal.So it can depend on where it is happening in the zodiac and what other planets may be aspecting both. Orbs, as much as we may arbitrarily set them for convenience, are dynamic, flexible. ------------------
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ReadingTheStars95 Knowflake Posts: 388 From: Registered: Jun 2014
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posted June 25, 2015 07:49 PM
quote: Originally posted by Kannon McAfee: Orbs for aspects depend on the planets involved, and the kind of aspect. Most of us round things off normally to around 7-8*. It actually depends on whether the Sun, for example is involved in a dual aspect in longitude and declination, say with Uranus. If the Sun is at say 5 Capricorn in wide conjunction with Uranus at 27 Sagittarius, but is in parallel at 23 south, then essentially the conjunction is more dynamic than normal.So it can depend on where it is happening in the zodiac and what other planets may be aspecting both. Orbs, as much as we may arbitrarily set them for convenience, are dynamic, flexible.
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midnightvenus Knowflake Posts: 541 From: outerspace Registered: Sep 2014
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posted June 25, 2015 09:30 PM
Would you count a square between Sun and Pluto, with an orb of 7.52' degrees applying?IP: Logged |
midnightvenus Knowflake Posts: 541 From: outerspace Registered: Sep 2014
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posted June 26, 2015 12:10 PM
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Seimei Knowflake Posts: 342 From: LafaLott,La.U.S.A. Registered: Apr 2015
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posted June 26, 2015 01:28 PM
quote: Originally posted by Kannon McAfee: Orbs for aspects depend on the planets involved, and the kind of aspect. Most of us round things off normally to around 7-8*. It actually depends on whether the Sun, for example is involved in a dual aspect in longitude and declination, say with Uranus. If the Sun is at say 5 Capricorn in wide conjunction with Uranus at 27 Sagittarius, but is in parallel at 23 south, then essentially the conjunction is more dynamic than normal.So it can depend on where it is happening in the zodiac and what other planets may be aspecting both. Orbs, as much as we may arbitrarily set them for convenience, are dynamic, flexible.
Kannon, Does right ascension work in the as well. I have Sun 14vi44, Pluto 8vi06. In RA " 15VI56 "" 14VI42. In other words does this make the 6+ degree conjunction function as one much closer? dan
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Aquacheeka Knowflake Posts: 3297 From: Toronto Registered: Mar 2012
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posted June 26, 2015 02:09 PM
quote: Originally posted by midnightvenus: How wide is the orb you use for major aspects between the Sun and outer planets?
With outers I wouldn't go beyond 5 or 6 with natal, and not beyond 1 with synastry, unless it's a conjunction... then up to low 4. IP: Logged |
Doux Rêve Moderator Posts: 9374 From: Registered: Dec 2010
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posted June 26, 2015 02:45 PM
Well, I have an applying Sun/Saturn square - orb 7°42 - and I'm pretty damn sure it's there. Though 8° and + aspects are really iffy, in my experience. Another thing is that I'm not sure Pluto would have the same effect as Saturn in this case. As for what Kannon said, I think my Sun parallels Saturn, though the orb is a little over 1°. 16°38'23" S 15° 0'31" S That could be something to keep in mind. IP: Logged |
Kannon McAfee Knowflake Posts: 844 From: Portland, OR - USA Registered: Oct 2011
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posted June 26, 2015 07:59 PM
quote: Originally posted by midnightvenus: Would you count a square between Sun and Pluto, with an orb of 7.52' degrees applying?
Yes. ------------------
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midnightvenus Knowflake Posts: 541 From: outerspace Registered: Sep 2014
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posted June 26, 2015 11:22 PM
quote: Originally posted by Kannon McAfee: Yes.
Is it okay if they're not parallel, Kannon? IP: Logged |
Kannon McAfee Knowflake Posts: 844 From: Portland, OR - USA Registered: Oct 2011
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posted June 27, 2015 04:15 PM
quote: Originally posted by midnightvenus: Is it okay if they're not parallel, Kannon?
Yes. ------------------
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LeeLoo2014 Knowflake Posts: 12848 From: Venus cornering Neptune Registered: Mar 2014
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posted June 27, 2015 04:59 PM
quote: Originally posted by Kannon McAfee: Orbs, as much as we may arbitrarily set them for convenience, are dynamic, flexible.
...and the overall geometry counts a lot, both in natal and synastry. I have Sun opp Jupiter (7) and Venus opp Jupiter (6), with Jupiter on Sun/Venus mdp roughly, and Jupiter an angular planet, bucket handle (fan actually). Both oppositions are strongly felt, they are like the backbone of my chart, everything "fans" around them, and they become one opposition and even unite Sun and Venus, Jupiter activated makes me feel/react/appear as if having a Sun/Venus conjunction. In synastry, someone on our geometry, even wide orb geometry, activates it. ------------------ I seem to have loved you in numberless forms... AstroMandala Summer Readings IP: Logged |