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midnightvenus
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posted June 25, 2015 04:57 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for midnightvenus     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
How wide is the orb you use for major aspects between the Sun and outer planets?

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posted June 25, 2015 06:03 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for ReadingTheStars95     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by midnightvenus:
How wide is the orb you use for major aspects between the Sun and outer planets?

Kinda depends on a few things.. Like.. Dignity could make a bit of a difference(even though, I can't really think of any major situations where it would.. I'm sure it could though in the correct situations though..).. Whether or not the planets are involved in a grand formation...

I've read Neptune has the highest orb of influence.. Then Pluto, if I am correct.

Personally, I think the absolute furthest you should go with pretty much any aspect is 7 degrees. 5 is usually max in my opinion, but I've seen things being felt up to 7 degree orbs. You may be able to to 8 degrees with an opposition, but that is pushing it a bit in my opinion. You may want to consider the concept of harmonics too.. Which would make the opposition and the trine the 2 aspects after a conjunction.. So, I usually give those 3 the loosest orbs.. However, I've seen people use very loose orbs with squares, so I'm not certain..

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posted June 25, 2015 06:16 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for GemBird82     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
~ If you are using Astro.com I think the most practical solution would be reducing orb facts to a 75% yup! Problem solved
~ piece of cake ~
* Just my 2 cents

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Kannon McAfee
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posted June 25, 2015 07:40 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Kannon McAfee     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Orbs for aspects depend on the planets involved, and the kind of aspect. Most of us round things off normally to around 7-8*. It actually depends on whether the Sun, for example is involved in a dual aspect in longitude and declination, say with Uranus. If the Sun is at say 5 Capricorn in wide conjunction with Uranus at 27 Sagittarius, but is in parallel at 23 south, then essentially the conjunction is more dynamic than normal.

So it can depend on where it is happening in the zodiac and what other planets may be aspecting both. Orbs, as much as we may arbitrarily set them for convenience, are dynamic, flexible.

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posted June 25, 2015 07:49 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for ReadingTheStars95     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Kannon McAfee:
Orbs for aspects depend on the planets involved, and the kind of aspect. Most of us round things off normally to around 7-8*. It actually depends on whether the Sun, for example is involved in a dual aspect in longitude and declination, say with Uranus. If the Sun is at say 5 Capricorn in wide conjunction with Uranus at 27 Sagittarius, but is in parallel at 23 south, then essentially the conjunction is more dynamic than normal.

So it can depend on where it is happening in the zodiac and what other planets may be aspecting both. Orbs, as much as we may arbitrarily set them for convenience, are dynamic, flexible.


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posted June 25, 2015 09:30 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for midnightvenus     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Would you count a square between Sun and Pluto, with an orb of 7.52' degrees applying?

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posted June 26, 2015 12:10 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for midnightvenus     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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posted June 26, 2015 01:28 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Seimei     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Kannon McAfee:
Orbs for aspects depend on the planets involved, and the kind of aspect. Most of us round things off normally to around 7-8*. It actually depends on whether the Sun, for example is involved in a dual aspect in longitude and declination, say with Uranus. If the Sun is at say 5 Capricorn in wide conjunction with Uranus at 27 Sagittarius, but is in parallel at 23 south, then essentially the conjunction is more dynamic than normal.

So it can depend on where it is happening in the zodiac and what other planets may be aspecting both. Orbs, as much as we may arbitrarily set them for convenience, are dynamic, flexible.


Kannon,
Does right ascension work in the as well.
I have Sun 14vi44, Pluto 8vi06.
In RA " 15VI56 "" 14VI42.
In other words does this make the 6+ degree conjunction function as one much closer?
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posted June 26, 2015 02:09 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Aquacheeka     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by midnightvenus:
How wide is the orb you use for major aspects between the Sun and outer planets?

With outers I wouldn't go beyond 5 or 6 with natal, and not beyond 1 with synastry, unless it's a conjunction... then up to low 4.

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posted June 26, 2015 02:45 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Doux Rêve     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Well, I have an applying Sun/Saturn square - orb 7°42 - and I'm pretty damn sure it's there.

Though 8° and + aspects are really iffy, in my experience.

Another thing is that I'm not sure Pluto would have the same effect as Saturn in this case.

As for what Kannon said, I think my Sun parallels Saturn, though the orb is a little over 1°.

16°38'23" S
15° 0'31" S

That could be something to keep in mind.

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posted June 26, 2015 07:59 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Kannon McAfee     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by midnightvenus:
Would you count a square between Sun and Pluto, with an orb of 7.52' degrees applying?

Yes.

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posted June 26, 2015 11:22 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for midnightvenus     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Kannon McAfee:
Yes.


Is it okay if they're not parallel, Kannon?

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posted June 27, 2015 04:15 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Kannon McAfee     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by midnightvenus:
Is it okay if they're not parallel, Kannon?

Yes.

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posted June 27, 2015 04:59 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for LeeLoo2014     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Kannon McAfee:
Orbs, as much as we may arbitrarily set them for convenience, are dynamic, flexible.


...and the overall geometry counts a lot, both in natal and synastry.

I have Sun opp Jupiter (7) and Venus opp Jupiter (6), with Jupiter on Sun/Venus mdp roughly, and Jupiter an angular planet, bucket handle (fan actually).

Both oppositions are strongly felt, they are like the backbone of my chart, everything "fans" around them, and they become one opposition and even unite Sun and Venus, Jupiter activated makes me feel/react/appear as if having a Sun/Venus conjunction.

In synastry, someone on our geometry, even wide orb geometry, activates it.

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