posted July 04, 2015 09:40 AM            

But, I am wondering, when we say future, how far in the future?

My question stems from the fact that due to recent experiences, I have been forced to revise my opinion on other lifetimes, past or future.

So that, naturally, opens up the concept of "future".

So, is draconic future-this-life, or future-next-life? Or possibly both?

posted July 04, 2015 10:28 AM            

The answer to your question highly depends on how you view the nodal chart.

The nodal chart itself is a combination of Sun, Moon and Earth, as this is how the nodal axis is being derived.
http://astrologyclub.org/eclipses-and-the-moons-nodes/

Also, keep in mind that the nodal axis also has a South Node, our past, where we are coming from, what we bring forth. However conjunctions of the Draco chart with tropical planets describe the connection of the NORTH Node to these planets, hence future-oriented (oppositions are more past oriented probably).

Personally I think everything is related to this present life. The Draco chart operating as a guiding light into the future, yes, but not a future that somehow falls into our lap in 100 or 10000 or even 10 years from now. It describes our PATH there, it`s something we do, we strive to incorporate (though this might be subconscious).
And it is something thta is innate, though we may not be aware of it and have to "dig it out".

As seems to be the case with my Draco Sun, Mercury, Venus in Aries. That trait is already present in me, but I never was aware of, it got reflected back to me by other people, how much I already am like that, at least if responding instinctively to situations (my best friend reflected that back to me mostly, and her tropical MOon is conjunct my Draco Sun and Draco Mercury closely).

For me this is something I am learning to incorporate into my everyday pattern of acting (and in a balanced way) but it is also something that is already within me, at least as a seed, and I just have to water it to let it grow, so to speak.

posted July 05, 2015 12:08 PM            

I am still on the fence with regards to the draconic chart. I am comparing my reaction to it with the transits.

Draconic
Sun is 13 Lib square trPluto Cap 14
Venus is 1 Virgo sqaure trSat Sc 28
Saturn is 27 Leo square trSat Sco 28

I am monitoring this period to see what this is really all about.

posted July 06, 2015 05:58 AM            

I realised something the other day that may be related to this.

I have been baffled for a while as to how I cannot guess at least the Sun sign of individuals.

THEN, the other day, I decided to check the draconic charts of those I was attempting to guess - and there it was.

I guessed correctly, BUT, I guessed the draconic Sun.

posted July 06, 2015 06:55 AM            

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Originally posted by Voix_de_la_Mer:
Thank you for the excellent replies.

I realized something the other day that may be related to this.

I have been baffled for a while as to how I cannot guess at least the Sun sign of individuals.

THEN, the other day, I decided to check the draconic charts of those I was attempting to guess - and there it was.

I guessed correctly, BUT, I guessed the [b]Draconian Sun.

Perhaps we are giving off more of our draconic charts than we realize??[/B]

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I understand Voix.

But does that mean that we should look at the Sun in tropical in much the same way as we do the Draconic?

posted July 06, 2015 07:47 AM            

They act like transits. There is most likely an actual transit as well, on the Draco/Tropical conjunction, when things happen, when you reach that stage.

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posted July 06, 2015 07:54 AM            

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Originally posted by Ceridwen:
Voix,

that is the same that allegedly happened to Edgar Cayce. He was referring to the astrological charts in his trance-readings, but was actually referring to the Draconic ones, not the tropical ones.
At least that is what I have read.

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Hmmm. I wonder what is going on then.

Perhaps it has something to do with which energies you notice in people.

While I can hear what someone is saying, I am often picking up "stuff" aside from the words.

Perhaps the draconic is more of an emotional chart, and the tropical a logical chart - for lack of better terms.

Or tropical "surface" and draconic "inner".

But how is it possible to read the "inner" of a person with very little knowledge of them or their life? The people I was guessing with are far from being intimates, and I barely know anything about them.

I am certainly no Edgar Cayce - I have barely even reconciled the existence of lives other than this one!
I should probably read about him again though, so thanks for highlighting this Ceridwen.

posted July 06, 2015 07:56 AM            

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Originally posted by Aries23Degrees:
I understand Voix.

But does that mean that we should look at the Sun in tropical in much the same way as we do the Draconic?

I have Draconic Sun in Libra. Does that mean I exude Libra traits?

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Honest answer Aries? I don't know.

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posted July 06, 2015 07:59 AM            

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Originally posted by EmGem:
i actually decided to compare draconic natals to the composite the other day. I found it interesting that one of my soulmates has his draconic sun and venus conjunct our composite sun and mercury. it can't be a coincidence i don't think?!

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Probably not EmGem.

posted July 06, 2015 08:00 AM            

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Originally posted by LeeLoo2014:
Currently, what I believe is that the Draco chart is a map of your life path (NN). It makes perfect sense, it's a principle we apply to everything, for instance planetary charts (ex. Personas). When you superpose the Draco with the tropical, for you or between two people, you notice when and how major events happen and what is the purpose behind someone's current astrological configuration (the tropical chart). The focus is conjunctions (and oppositions). The other aspects are detailing those.

They act like transits. There is most likely an actual transit as well, on the Draco/Tropical conjunction, when things happen, when you reach that stage.

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This does make sense, thank you for explaining LeeLoo.

posted July 06, 2015 08:07 AM            

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Originally posted by Voix_de_la_Mer:
This does make sense, thank you for explaining LeeLoo.

So, perhaps those who are actualising their NN, have a more visible draconic chart, do you think?
And in those instances, we may pick up the draconic more than the tropical when interacting with them?

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Brilliant observation, yes. They probably actualized that already, or you catch them while it is happening.
I think the most important thing about Draco is to check the tropical/Draco conjunctions. Let's say you have a tSun/dMercury conjunction. There is a time in your life when you become a teacher/writer and this is the moment when your Sun (basic and public personality) reaches a peak in shining. This is how these conjunctions work, IMO. Draco planet makes the tropical planet shine.

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posted July 06, 2015 08:26 AM            

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Originally posted by Voix_de_la_Mer:
Honest answer Aries? I don't know.

But it would seem that we "communicate" both tropical and draconic in some discernible way.

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Lauren Delsack has videos on the Draconic chart. And they are worth a view (if interested).

But I can't place the Draconic in a practical way really....