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powerglove
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posted July 07, 2015 03:06 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for powerglove     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Hello all I'm new to this site.

How does a gay person look for compatibility of their own chart and their significant others chart? Would it be the same reading as a heterosexual? What parts of the chart should I look into?

Any input is greatly appreciated.

Thank you and have an awesome day.

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CupOfDavid
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posted July 07, 2015 03:19 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for CupOfDavid     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I'm curious about that as well, so I shall keep an eye on this thread.

Thanks for putting the question out there!

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Ceridwen
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posted July 07, 2015 03:39 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ceridwen     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
the relationship houses will stay the same, 5th, 7th and 8th.

As for the gender planets, I am not completely sure, but it is possible that for lesbians the Venus-position is interesting and for gay men the Mars-position.
But as I said I am absolutely not sure.

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powerglove
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posted July 07, 2015 03:44 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for powerglove     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by CupOfDavid:
I'm curious about that as well, so I shall keep an eye on this thread.

Thanks for putting the question out there!



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powerglove
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posted July 07, 2015 04:14 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for powerglove     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Ceridwen:
the relationship houses will stay the same, 5th, 7th and 8th.

As for the gender planets, I am not completely sure, but it is possible that for lesbians the Venus-position is interesting and for gay men the Mars-position.
But as I said I am absolutely not sure.


Thanks for you response.

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LionFish
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posted July 07, 2015 04:52 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for LionFish     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I have a very good friend who is gay. And has been openly so since he was about 16.

I can't post his chart atm but i can tell you that a majority of the planets and houses that are associated with the masculine quality are feminine by sign.

1H Pisces Sun conjunct Pisces Asc
5th - Cancer (ruled by Scorpio Moon conj Pluto in the 8th trine Mercury)
7th - Virgo (Mercury in Pisces in the12th)
8th - Scorpio (Pluto in Scorpio 8th)

His Mars is Taurus in his 2nd house and his Venus is in Aqua in his 12th.

I wish i coud recall his whole chart off the top of my head! I will come back later and post his chart.

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m.blade
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posted July 07, 2015 06:06 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for m.blade     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Isn't compatibility meant to be read Venus-Jupiter?

Venus for man, Jupiter for woman

and similarly for gay relationships the yin (more feminine) = Jupiter and yang (more masculine) = Venus.

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Ceridwen
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posted July 07, 2015 06:22 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ceridwen     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Where does the Jupiter come from? That is the first time I read that, because they were called the big and small luck and being masculine and feminine?


Usually Venus is paired with Mars.

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Belage
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posted July 07, 2015 07:06 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Belage     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I find Uranus tends to be very significant when it comes to attraction.

If they're looking for longevity, Saturn has to be strong,

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CupOfDavid
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posted July 07, 2015 09:41 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for CupOfDavid     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Oh, and welcome to LindaLand, @powerglove! Forgot to say that before.

@LionFish: The question isn't what placements could indicate homosexuality, but if the aspects for good synastry between two heterosexuals are the same for two homosexuals.

But going off of what you said, all but my Sun, Ascendant, and Midheaven are in "feminine" signs and I'm a homo.

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LionFish
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posted July 07, 2015 11:12 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for LionFish     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by CupOfDavid:

@LionFish: The question isn't what placements could indicate homosexuality, but if the aspects for good synastry between two heterosexuals are the same for two homosexuals.

But going off of what you said, all but my Sun, Ascendant, and Midheaven are in "feminine" signs and I'm a homo.


Not saying every man who is dominant in feminine placements is gay.

And sorry to the OP, I got distracted discribing him vs the relationships he's had bc I was on my kindle and well, typing anything takes forever and I'm easily sidetracked lol

I had started my original post in thoughts of postimg the charts of him and his boyfriend of 8 years

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AscTaurus
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posted July 08, 2015 01:50 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for AscTaurus     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Hmmm. I don't think much changes actually. It'll depend on the couple concerned.Like all other heterosexual relationships.

There 1st has to be a propensity to receive and give love. This is standard- no matter who you are.

So if we are looking at the basics; We start with the two most important placements.

Sun- the ideal person that we want to actualize for ourselves- or are building ourselves up to become.


Moon-the propensity to "read" love and internalize it. Also the propensity to give what one thinks is the definition of it.

I was tempted to write an essay. But I will stop here ...

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Libracorn
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posted July 08, 2015 09:12 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Libracorn     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
In my opinion, I honestly think it's the same thing as heterosexual relationships as far as the Mars/Venus aspects goes.

The guy with the Mars is probably the one who pursues the guy with the Venus. And if it's a double-whammy things should play out equally.

But attraction isn't just Mars/Venus. Look at the synastry houses. 5th, 7th, 8th houses are
houses to look out for in romance.

And I agree with what's said above. Sun and Moon need to be taken into account (just for general personality compatibility).

But in my personal opinion, I don't think
there is much as a difference when it comes
to homosexual relationships. It should be the
same love aspects/houses as heterosexual relationships.

If two gay men have their Mars/Venus aspecting each other, they might be attracted
to each other if the synastry romance houses (5,7,8) are activated with personal planets falling into their partners romance houses.

I hope I made sense lol

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ail221
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posted July 08, 2015 09:46 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for ail221     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Ultimately the same way you'd interpret a heterosexual couple chart.

Luminaries Sun/Moon
Angles 1st,4th, 7th, and 10th
Relationship houses 5th, 7th and 8th
Secondary ruler-ships of your relationship houses If you have a Taurus 5th house see where Venus is located in your chart.

Sexual aspects would still be valid i.e. Mars/Pluto, Venus/Pluto, and Venus/Mars etc.

General love and prosperity
Sun/Venus, Jupiter/Venus etc.

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Soltze
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posted July 08, 2015 10:45 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Soltze     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
You can always ignore the traditional gendering of planets focusing in DW, house overlays and mutual receptions.

Anyway Sun, Moon and ASC compatibility is pretty universal to any sinastry study

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LionFish
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posted July 08, 2015 03:08 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for LionFish     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Here is their synastry chart. With both of their birth times at a 5 minute increment I fear they may be off a minute or 2. The person inside is the friend I was referring to. Like I stated previously, they were together for 8 years, possibly a little longer even.


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Belage
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posted July 08, 2015 04:31 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Belage     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I have this theory that in the chart of gay males, mars may be more significant, while in the chart of gay women, venus might be more significant.

Mars is more a signifier of sexuality, not so much of romance like Venus, and speaking in general terms, gay males tend to be more prone to sexual thyrsts than the rest of the population, so again, Mars compatibility should be very important. Also check up Uranus and Pluto aspects to Mars and to personal planets like moon and Venus in synastry. Too much PLuto and you might have a relationship that might turn deadly in more ways than one. Too much Uranus, and there will be lack of stability.

Overall, Uranus tends to be significant symbolizing that which is different from the norm. Try to find some Saturnian glue if you want longevity in the relationship.

Besides looking at traditional mars-venus, moon mars etc type of relational astrology, I would also look up certain asteroid placements.

Asteroid Urania 30, a goddess of homosexuality. Quite fitting as it sounds phonetically like the planet Uranus.

For the men, certain asteroid pairs like: Zeus 5731 and Ganymede 11036, Patroclus 617 and Achilles 588.

For the Women: Pallas 2 and Athena 881. The Asteroid Sappho 80 is also important.

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