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athenegoddess Knowflake Posts: 4479 From: Registered: Aug 2011
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posted July 10, 2015 03:45 AM
What aspects make someone extremely jealous? Any experiences?IP: Logged |
LionFish Knowflake Posts: 1475 From: Registered: Aug 2012
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posted July 11, 2015 05:49 AM
Do you mean jealousy in relationships?If so... My brother is a Taurus Sun/Venus, Scorpio Moon, Leo Mars and he is EXTREMELY jealous when it comes to my bff (his fiancée). If he even thinks she's being looked at by, or looking at, another man he will lose his mind over it. Actually, come to think of it, he's even jealous of the relationship his sons have with their old step-father. IP: Logged |
Geminiyoungster Knowflake Posts: 239 From: Registered: Jun 2013
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posted July 11, 2015 09:10 AM
quote: Originally posted by LionFish: Do you mean jealousy in relationships?If so... My brother is a Taurus Sun/Venus, Scorpio Moon, Leo Mars and he is EXTREMELY jealous when it comes to my bff (his fiancée). If he even thinks she's being looked at by, or looking at, another man he will lose his mind over it. Actually, come to think of it, he's even jealous of the relationship his sons have with their old step-father.
I have come to notice that scorpio moons can be the most jealous moon sign in men. My relative boyfriend with this placement said that he didn't want my female relative talking to any other boy ever and I do mean ever, but him! The simplest stuff would set him off!
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Doux Rêve Moderator Posts: 9397 From: Registered: Dec 2010
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posted July 11, 2015 09:25 AM
Hmm that's actually a tough question, because while I'm tempted to say "Leo, Scorpio/Pluto", I can think of many instances where it doesn't apply.But I'd say these two energies have a higher chance of being jealous than other energies. (Including 5H and 8H placements.) That's because Scorpio is fundamentally distrusting of "human nature" and its frailties (so even if someone loves you, you have no way of knowing that they won't fall in love with someone else) and Leo has a need to be the first/best for their SO. So they'd want their partner to pay attention to them mostly and think of them as *the* best, and other people can threaten that position and become competition. IP: Logged |
athenegoddess Knowflake Posts: 4479 From: Registered: Aug 2011
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posted July 11, 2015 12:41 PM
quote: Originally posted by LionFish: Do you mean jealousy in relationships?If so... My brother is a Taurus Sun/Venus, Scorpio Moon, Leo Mars and he is EXTREMELY jealous when it comes to my bff (his fiancée). If he even thinks she's being looked at by, or looking at, another man he will lose his mind over it. Actually, come to think of it, he's even jealous of the relationship his sons have with their old step-father.
Yes In relationships.. I was figuring it was fixed signs who were most capable of this type of behavior. I know someone who has Venus/NN in Taurus Square Mars/Saturn/Pluto in Leo and he seems to be very jealous. IP: Logged |
stillatlarge Knowflake Posts: 444 From: TX Registered: Nov 2010
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posted July 11, 2015 03:06 PM
Leo sun, Aqua moon, Asc, Mars, Venus, N Node in Cancer and I'm just realizing this about myself. I HATE it. I do think you need to distinguish between jealousy and possessiveness thoughIP: Logged |
LionFish Knowflake Posts: 1475 From: Registered: Aug 2012
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posted July 11, 2015 06:37 PM
quote: Originally posted by Doux Rêve: Hmm that's actually a tough question, because while I'm tempted to say "Leo, Scorpio/Pluto", I can think of many instances where it doesn't apply.
I think if they also have a substantial Mutable influence it tones this down a lot. One of my bffs is a Scorp Moon conjunct Pluto IN the 8th house and he is one of the least jealous people I know. But he also has a Pisces ASC/Sun quote: But I'd say these two energies have a higher chance of being jealous than other energies. (Including 5H and 8H placements.)
I think people always forget about Taurus! Taurus can, unfortunately, view people as theirs , like a property or posession instead of a human being. Which can lead to jealous tantrums over said people giving their time or attention elsewhere. quote: That's because Scorpio is fundamentally distrusting of "human nature" and its frailties (so even if someone loves you, you have no way of knowing that they won't fall in love with someone else)
Yesssssssss. This! My brother has said this to me multiple times about my bff. "Well, I know she won't cheat on me, but what if she wakes up one day and decides she doesn't love me anymore. Or worse, loves someone else." quote: and Leo has a need to be the first/best for their SO. So they'd want their partner to pay attention to them mostly and think of them as *the* best, and other people can threaten that position and become competition.
Definitely true for most the Leos I'm close to. I have a friend who is a Leo stellium including Sun/Moon/Mars and he can't stand attention being directed toward anyone but him. Even just from friends. Before I started dating my fiance, heck before I was out of the terrible relationship I was in with my Cancer ex, this guy and his wife were my escape from home. They would come pick me up every morning, I hung out with them almost exclusively. His wife even referred to me as his other girlfriend. Well, when I started dating my Leo ex, all I ever heard was how he was no good for me... yadda yadda yadda. Always trying to talk down about him and our relationship. The Leo and I broke up and my friend wasn't sympathetic, he was happy. Because it meant he didn't have to "fight" for my attention anymore. And now, with my Aquarius SO, my friend can't say anything nice about him. All he says about him to our mutual friends is how much he "doesn't like that guy" and literally the only reason he has is because my fiance takes up too much of my time. It's a bit ridiculous. IP: Logged |
LeeLoo2014 Knowflake Posts: 13562 From: Venus cornering Neptune Registered: Mar 2014
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posted July 11, 2015 06:44 PM
Fixed signs. I've had my share of jealousy, but Scorpio Moon Venus Sun beats everyone at the game ------------------ I seem to have loved you in numberless forms... AstroMandala Summer Readings IP: Logged |
LionFish Knowflake Posts: 1475 From: Registered: Aug 2012
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posted July 11, 2015 06:47 PM
quote: Originally posted by athenegoddess: Yes In relationships..I was figuring it was fixed signs who were most capable of this type of behavior. I know someone who has Venus/NN in Taurus Square Mars/Saturn/Pluto in Leo and he seems to be very jealous.
My brother has the t-square between Taurus Venus/Leo Saturn/Scorp Moon. And his Taurus Sun squares his Leo Mars. I almost feel bad for him sometimes because he gets so stressed out over hypothetical situations.
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peony Knowflake Posts: 932 From: U.S. Registered: Dec 2014
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posted July 16, 2015 10:57 AM
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margym0o Knowflake Posts: 497 From: Canada Registered: Jul 2014
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posted July 16, 2015 11:24 AM
Leo Venus square Pluto, Scorpio Moon...the feelings are overwhelming. Every and any other woman is perceived threat. Feelings of having someone you pour your heart and soul into ripped away from you. Bang on about the frailty of human emotion - what if your person falls in love with someone else? How can you trust anyone will love you forever?*Sigh* IP: Logged |
peony Knowflake Posts: 932 From: U.S. Registered: Dec 2014
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posted July 16, 2015 08:01 PM
First post from this morning never showed up. Extreme jealousy seen up close, and in general, Venus-Pluto gets first prize. IP: Logged |
athenegoddess Knowflake Posts: 4479 From: Registered: Aug 2011
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posted July 16, 2015 08:17 PM
quote: Originally posted by peony: First post from this morning never showed up. Extreme jealousy seen up close, and in general, Venus-Pluto gets first prize.
What was the orb for the Venus Pluto and aspect?
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peony Knowflake Posts: 932 From: U.S. Registered: Dec 2014
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posted July 17, 2015 02:21 AM
quote: Originally posted by athenegoddess: What was the orb for the Venus Pluto and aspect?
What do people here consider the maximum operative orb to be?
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athenegoddess Knowflake Posts: 4479 From: Registered: Aug 2011
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posted July 17, 2015 02:28 AM
It depends..The person I know has an exact Venus/Pluto square. I think that means maximum capacity to express this behavior. IP: Logged |
bluestskies88 Knowflake Posts: 195 From: Registered: May 2011
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posted July 17, 2015 02:47 AM
TOTAL synch with this thread!! that's all i have to say!! IP: Logged |
Eirlys Knowflake Posts: 497 From: Atlantic Coast Registered: May 2013
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posted July 17, 2015 03:14 AM
quote: Originally posted by athenegoddess: What aspects make someone extremely jealous? Any experiences?
Idk about aspects, but fixed signs-- esp Scorpio, Leo and Taurus-- seem to be the most likely candidates. They can be possessive (and Scorpio, obsessive, as well) and territorial in nature. Eta: WE can be, I should say-- *not exempt*
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peony Knowflake Posts: 932 From: U.S. Registered: Dec 2014
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posted July 17, 2015 11:07 AM
quote: Originally posted by athenegoddess: It depends..The person I know has an exact Venus/Pluto square. I think that means maximum capacity to express this behavior.
The person I knew has a Venus-Pluto opposition. I get the impression people here are "strict" about orbs and consider anything wider than oh say, six degrees as inoperative, but I don't given the evidence. This person has serious issues with jealousy and paranoia, even after nine years of marriage with my ex. Based on her manifestations I'm sure it must be very painful for her. She has not taken responsibility or acknowledged the problem, but perhaps she will someday. I heard recently that she is starting to do better. IP: Logged |
peony Knowflake Posts: 932 From: U.S. Registered: Dec 2014
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posted July 17, 2015 11:21 AM
quote: Originally posted by athenegoddess: It depends..The person I know has an exact Venus/Pluto square. I think that means maximum capacity to express this behavior.
I know someone as well with an opposition, who also has exhibited "maximum capacity to express this behavior," and the orb is too wide according to some people's standards. Given the ferocity that I've seen, I suspect there is an underlying intense fear of abandonment that the person is unwilling or unable to take responsibility for. Instead, they direct their fury at and blame the object of their jealousy for their pain and for a threat that they perceive as coming from the other person. These people need a lot of empathy. IP: Logged |
powerglove Newflake Posts: 7 From: Canada Registered: Jun 2015
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posted July 17, 2015 01:51 PM
not jealous with others success, money, appearances, materials, ect. but I will admit I can be pretty jealous in relationships. I'm not proud of it and it's definitely something that I would like to work on. my mars and venus is in leo placed in the 8th house. most often times I feel that I am a mix of fire and water though I am a Gemini sun.IP: Logged |
DeeMonroe Knowflake Posts: 51 From: Registered: Jun 2011
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posted July 17, 2015 02:00 PM
Leo Sun Leo Venus Pluto Rising in Scorpio Mars contraparallel PlutoI'm very possessive and jealous in relationships. A bit stalkish too Lol. I hide it very well though. IP: Logged |
powerglove Newflake Posts: 7 From: Canada Registered: Jun 2015
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posted July 17, 2015 02:09 PM
quote: Originally posted by DeeMonroe: Leo Sun Leo Venus Pluto Rising in Scorpio Mars contraparallel PlutoI'm very possessive and jealous in relationships. A bit stalkish too Lol. I hide it very well though.
this is going to sounds a bit cruel but I'm relieved that someone else is this way.
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