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UnderworldGlory
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posted July 11, 2015 09:31 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for UnderworldGlory     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Not to scare or drive anyone away who have this placement in their chart but

I've been immensely researching Moon in the 8th house which I suppose is a spiritual house for my moon to be in apart from my Sun, Venus, and Mercury in a 12th stellium. What worries me the most is that in Vedic interpretations this signifies the death of the mother or early loss of the mother. It also indicates a short life and that scares me.

Could anyone offer some helpful insight?
My moon in in 8th house 29th degree of Aquarius.
The reason why is scares me so much is based on accuracy involved in the interpretation. Such as my mother being emotionally disruptive and often ill. But she isn't dead ... her birthday just passed a couple of days ago and she turned 58 (no pun intended on the "8" part by the way, because she really did just turn 58...)

Also looking up a lot of celebrities with moon in the 8th house such as Osho (a mystic) he had apparently died of heart disease, which is something I'm concerned about because I have something similar.

The noticeable aspects of my moon are squares with Jupiter and Pluto and a trine with Mercury.

I've been feeling so fatalistic these past few weeks it's been ridiculous. Could someone offer some insight?

Namaste

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posted July 11, 2015 09:47 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ami Anne     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Welcome, my Friend. I did not know this about death of the mother. Maybe, some people can help us learn.

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posted July 11, 2015 09:52 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for UnderworldGlory     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Ami Anne:
Welcome, my Friend. I did not know this about death of the mother. Maybe, some people can help us learn.


Thank you for your warm welcome Ami.
Blessings wherever you are

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posted July 11, 2015 10:04 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for midnightvenus     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I have this both in my Western and Vedic birth charts, in the Vedic it rules the 4th house specifically, the house of mother.
The interpretation is that I'd have a relationship of ups and downs with her, which is the case.
I heard of the death of mother thing, but it doesn't bother me.
In my opinion, 'early death of the mother' would be the mother dying before your early teens or something.
I'm 19 and I wouldn't consider her death an early death if she died now.

If you're interested in aspects, I have Moon square Saturn and Sun sextile Moon.

Edit: For what's worth, in my Western chart, Moon rules my 3rd house, the house of siblings.
I did have a brother die when I was 7.
Transit Pluto was conjunct my Moon that time.

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posted July 11, 2015 10:23 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for UnderworldGlory     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by midnightvenus:
I have this both in my Western and Vedic birth charts, in the Vedic it rules the 4th house specifically, the house of mother.
The interpretation is that I'd have a relationship of ups and downs with her, which is the case.
I heard of the death of mother thing, but it doesn't bother me.
In my opinion, 'early death of the mother' would be the mother dying before your early teens or something.
I'm 19 and I wouldn't consider her death an early death if she died now.

If you're interested in aspects, I have Moon square Saturn and Sun sextile Moon.

Edit: For what's worth, in my Western chart, Moon rules my 3rd house, the house of siblings.
I did have a brother die when I was 7.
Transit Pluto was conjunct my Moon that time.


Very very sorry to hear about your loss.

I just don't like having an 8th house Moon. It's a curse.

Another thing I'm beginning to detest about this house is its ability to tune into the subtle dimensions of consciousness. Having this house placement lowers your body temperature significantly due to subtle modifications of the astral psyche thus "giving you health problems". But it does it unconsciously which is even worse.

In the next few weeks my Moon will be progressing into Jupiter and Pluto in Scorpio. All in the 4th while my Saturn is currently now in the 8th

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posted July 11, 2015 10:35 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for midnightvenus     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I particularly like my Moon. I like its depth and I accept that I was given specific challenges to overcome in my lifetime.
Your dislike of your Moon will make it harder for it to work with you, because you're too busy trying to block its energy because you're scared.
This will only create more stress in your mind. There are things we can't control.

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posted July 11, 2015 10:42 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for UnderworldGlory     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Letting go will undoubtedly be one of the hardest lessons in my life. Thank you. Namaste

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posted July 11, 2015 10:51 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Soltze     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I didn't know 8th house moon gave lower body temperature. But I can confirm that I do have a lower than normal body temperature.

Well I see 8th house moon as a loss of a mother figure not necessarily the mother. My grandma was like a mother too me. My mom was always working, my father was a big child and he never cared very much...when I lost her at 8 yo my life became a living hell since there was no "buffer zone" between my parents raging arguments anymore.

My mom is sick a lot too, but she refuses to take proper care of herself and plays the martyr despite having quite a good life. I know it sounds harsh but I have serious health conditions and I had to take care of myself so...
Sorry about the rambling. Just hope it helps somehow.

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posted July 11, 2015 11:13 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for UnderworldGlory     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
So crazy how you mentioned the grandmother thing.

My mother was never close with her mother, she was more closer with my grandmother which is my great grandmother.

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posted July 11, 2015 02:07 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Faith     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I have an 8H Pisces moon and my mother died when I was 14.

I have a friend with Libra moon conjunct Pluto in the 8H, and her mother is still alive and well but has been absent to the extent that she completely failed to serve in certain motherly capacities.

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posted July 11, 2015 10:58 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for lalalinda     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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posted July 12, 2015 01:58 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Aries23Degrees     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by UnderworldGlory:
Not to scare or drive anyone away who have this placement in their chart but

I've been immensely researching Moon in the 8th house which I suppose is a spiritual house for my moon to be in apart from my Sun, Venus, and Mercury in a 12th stellium. What worries me the most is that in Vedic interpretations this signifies the death of the mother or early loss of the mother. It also indicates a short life and that scares me.

Could anyone offer some helpful insight?
My moon in in 8th house 29th degree of Aquarius.

The reason why is scares me so much is based on accuracy involved in the interpretation.

Such as my mother being emotionally disruptive and often ill. But she isn't dead ... her birthday just passed a couple of days ago and she turned 58 (no pun intended on the "8" part by the way, because she really did just turn 58...)

Also looking up a lot of celebrities with moon in the 8th house such as Osho (a mystic) he had apparently died of heart disease, which is something I'm concerned about because I have something similar.

The noticeable aspects of my moon are squares with Jupiter and Pluto and a trine with Mercury.

I've been feeling so fatalistic these past few weeks it's been ridiculous. Could someone offer some insight?Namaste


Do you have Cancer Ascending? If so, the Moon as ruler of the 1st house cusp, is very significant.

The 8th house cusp often represents the things that will take a little more time to learn. Maybe because they are "hidden" from view.

Unlike the 12th house,the 8th house does not mean that those things are hidden within the subconscious and only show themselves up when our life is feeling "out of control" etc.

The 8th house shows where we may learn more(psychologically). And may end up spending more time to master the issues involved herein.

That is why the 8th is called the "regeneration" house; because when we have learned more about the issues of this house,we tend to feel "re-born".

We no longer see life with the same eyes and our point of view has changed.

If we skip the 8th house or try to avoid it. We may find ourselves "dancing with fear".

In other words, we may never know how to react in crises mode, what the "essence" of living really is and what power we have within.

A lot of people tend try to ignore the 8th and so when crises hit, they often feel that things are happening "to them"- instead of because of them.

Okay, enough with the lecture On to the position.

The Moon represents our sense of emotional security(together with the 4th house and 2nd house cusp)- the mother, home, emotional relationships, ability to receive/perceive "love", perception of life etc.

The Moon in 8th can be interpreted that one has to "discover" (8th is hidden)what these things are i.e what the Moon represents for them in essence.

There could be many reasons for why the representative principles of the Moon are unclear to the person i.e; perhaps the Mother was not there(loss of nurture through death or other forms)?

Perhaps she didn't really "connect' with the child(difficult relationship with child) or was too far deep in herself?

Perhaps the individual never knew love or what love is? Perhaps they never knew what "belonging" and being safe really means?

Whatever the inception, the main crux is that the Moon's symbolic ideals are "hidden". And the individual will probably work on "unearthing" them for the rest of her/his life.

Now with the Asc ruler in Cancer, the Moon is accentuated in importance. And that means that not only does the Moon form part of the basic personality (as it does with us all).

But the Moon is also a strong part of ones' self-identification(Asc).And influences much of the individual chart in very BIG way.

What we can infer from your personality is that, whilst this "self-discovery" is happening. You are likely to give off the vibe of someone secretive,investigative, probing,self-contained and suspicious (ruler of 1st house in 8th).

You are also likely to go through some sort of crises that will be very emotionally involving; house burning down, losing someone/something very emotionally significant to you,having your emotional sensitivity stirred many times etc.

Many people with Moon in 8th become emotionally detached. Because they lose so much and the feeling of loss becomes so heavy and extreme, that they may find it difficult to bond in relationships

This is obviously a defense against further loss that may come in future etc. They are so scared of being attached that they think it better to remain "distant" in order to self-preserve etc.

Others go the other way; they become extremely possessive,fearful of losing what they have established emotionally (relationships,things etc) that they hold on for dear life.

These people may develop a "death will be the only separator" mentality with their emotional relationships.

They have/develop psychological abandonment issues that have them act up a lot when feeling like their safety net is being threatened or on the cusp of being "lost" (either perceived so or real)

Is Pluto in the 5th house?

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posted July 12, 2015 03:23 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Carlos113     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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posted July 12, 2015 09:03 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Aquacheeka     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I have an 8th house moon and can say that I have a very low body temperature and am always cold (can't believe that's linked to this house, wow), and my mother may as well have not existed she did such a horrible job parenting. In a way I WISH she'd abandoned me when I was younger I probably would have been better off. Also, concerning the detachment, it's a touchy subject because I manifest outwardly as being very clingy and emotional in my relationships (Pisces moon), but at my deepest core, hidden from view, I'll never trust any man fully and will never let myself be completely vulnerable or dependent so in a sense I am detached from the outcome of my relationships and prepared for the worst, for the loss. I think 8th house moon issues are scary because they're so deeply embedded in the psyche and not on display all the time. One can essentially live with us and never really know what psychological baggage we carry and the crises we have undergone.

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posted July 12, 2015 04:47 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for UnderworldGlory     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Aries23Degrees:
Do you have Cancer Ascending? If so, the Moon as ruler of the 1st house cusp, is very significant.

The 8th house cusp often represents the things that will take a little more time to learn. Maybe because they are "hidden" from view.

Unlike the 12th house,the 8th house does not mean that those things are hidden within the subconscious and only show themselves up when our life is feeling "out of control" etc.

The 8th house shows where we may learn more(psychologically). And may end up spending more time to master the issues involved herein.

That is why the 8th is called the "regeneration" house; because when we have learned more about the issues of this house,we tend to feel "re-born".

We no longer see life with the same eyes and our point of view has changed.

If we skip the 8th house or try to avoid it. We may find ourselves "dancing with fear".

In other words, we may never know how to react in crises mode, what the "essence" of living really is and what power we have within.

A lot of people tend try to ignore the 8th and so when crises hit, they often feel that things are happening "to them"- instead of because of them.

Okay, enough with the lecture On to the position.

The Moon represents our sense of emotional security(together with the 4th house and 2nd house cusp)- the mother, home, emotional relationships, ability to receive/perceive "love", perception of life etc.

The Moon in 8th can be interpreted that one has to "discover" (8th is hidden)what these things are i.e what the Moon represents for them in essence.

There could be many reasons for why the representative principles of the Moon are unclear to the person i.e; perhaps the Mother was not there(loss of nurture through death or other forms)?

Perhaps she didn't really "connect' with the child(difficult relationship with child) or was too far deep in herself?

Perhaps the individual never knew love or what love is? Perhaps they never knew what "belonging" and being safe really means?

Whatever the inception, the main crux is that the Moon's symbolic ideals are "hidden". And the individual will probably work on "unearthing" them for the rest of her/his life.

Now with the Asc ruler in Cancer, the Moon is accentuated in importance. And that means that not only does the Moon form part of the basic personality (as it does with us all).

But the Moon is also a strong part of ones' self-identification(Asc).And influences much of the individual chart in very BIG way.

What we can infer from your personality is that, whilst this "self-discovery" is happening. You are likely to give off the vibe of someone secretive,investigative, probing,self-contained and suspicious (ruler of 1st house in 8th).

You are also likely to go through some sort of crises that will be very emotionally involving; house burning down, losing someone/something very emotionally significant to you,having your emotional sensitivity stirred many times etc.

Many people with Moon in 8th become emotionally detached. Because they lose so much and the feeling of loss becomes so heavy and extreme, that they may find it difficult to bond in relationships

This is obviously a defense against further loss that may come in future etc. They are so scared of being attached that they think it better to remain "distant" in order to self-preserve etc.

Others go the other way; they become extremely possessive,fearful of losing what they have established emotionally (relationships,things etc) that they hold on for dear life.

These people may develop a "death will be the only separator" mentality with their emotional relationships.

They have/develop psychological abandonment issues that have them act up a lot when feeling like their safety net is being threatened or on the cusp of being "lost" (either perceived so or real)

Is Pluto in the 5th house?



This is EXACTLY what I've been looking for. Thank you so much for taking your time to look in my thread.

I am a foreigner in the US and my mother lost her house before I was born which would have essentially led to poverty. Luckily by some twist of fate we ended up moving from my homeland to the U.S., which is where I currently am now. And yes I can confirm that I also have Pluto in the 5th.

Both Jupiter and Pluto are in the 5th Conjunct one another. My moon squares both.

Also thank you to the moderators for your friendly welcomes. I have been wanting to join this site for a while as a lot of the information here is very useful for anyone who has an interest in astrology. So thank you.

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posted July 12, 2015 04:54 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for UnderworldGlory     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Also yes, I have a Cancer Rising. Could you explain more on what this could possibly entail?

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posted July 12, 2015 05:43 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for StarlightSmileSupreme     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I have eighth house moon in Taurus afflicted by Neptune and I am still alive, so is my mother but I also have Saturn in the eighth and it trines the sun.

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posted July 12, 2015 05:54 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Soltze     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by UnderworldGlory:
So crazy how you mentioned the grandmother thing.

My mother was never close with her mother, she was more closer with my grandmother which is my great grandmother.


Oh God, it gets crazier. My mom herself never got along with her own mother...seems like a generational problem. She didn't cry when my grandmother died but when my great grandmother did she showed emotion like I've never seen before.

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posted July 12, 2015 06:06 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Faith     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
@Aries 23 Degrees ~ Just brilliant.

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posted July 12, 2015 06:10 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for UnderworldGlory     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by StarlightSmileSupreme:
I have eighth house moon in Taurus afflicted by Neptune and I am still alive, so is my mother but I also have Saturn in the eighth and it trines the sun.


Lucky! The Moon is exalted in Taurus.

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posted July 13, 2015 08:31 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for FayeMaye     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I have Taurus Moon in the 8th, my mum is still alive and well I hope she will be for many years. (She's 48 so she's not "young".)

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posted July 13, 2015 11:43 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for StarlightSmileSupreme     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
My mom's in her seventies. Who came up with this moon in eighth house is about death? I haven't noticed it.

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posted July 13, 2015 11:49 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for UnderworldGlory     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by StarlightSmileSupreme:
My mom's in her seventies. Who came up with this moon in eighth house is about death? I haven't noticed it.


May she be long lived!

It's just one of the several interpretations of it floating around on the web. It resonates with me so I am seeking to confirm.

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Originally posted by UnderworldGlory:

May she be long lived!

It's just one of the several interpretations of it floating around on the web. It resonates with me so I am seeking to confirm.



Thanks! I read your OP again and I can say the same for my mom - emotionally disruptive with a long history of physical problems such as fibrous tumors, gallbladder issues that resembled panic attacks (she had hers removed,) depression, addictions, but isn't dead.

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posted July 13, 2015 12:16 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for UnderworldGlory     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by StarlightSmileSupreme:

Thanks! I read your OP again and I can say the same for my mom - emotionally disruptive with a long history of physical problems such as fibrous tumors, gallbladder issues that resembled panic attacks (she had hers removed,) depression, addictions, but isn't dead.

This information is astounding.

My mother had gallstones.

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