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bubbles7
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posted July 14, 2015 01:27 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for bubbles7     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
1. Do hard aspect in themselves indicate poor health?

2. I have 12 squares (including two T-squares), several oppositions, and only like 3 trines, I also have several planets in my 8th house....but I do not feel the hard aspects at all...I feel like my life is perfect and I never get depressed or go through challenges of note. I feel so much love in my life. Why does my chart say my life is supposed to be hard and it's not? Not even close?

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astra7
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posted July 14, 2015 01:31 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for astra7     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Could be. Quincunx indicates health problem too.

May be one day, your world will come crashing down if you are not in touch with reality. Watch out for Saturn or Pluto transit.

How interesting how you express about yourself. I know of person who has many hard aspects and oppositions like you and yes he probably thinks he's perfect...yet there is something very wrong about him....for a start, he's a stalker.

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posted July 14, 2015 01:43 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Gemini Blues     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
T squares, while challenging, are different animals than squares. A square doesn't normally resolve without outside influence. A T square can be a block until you learn to harness it. But once you do, it's like a turbocharge to the focus planet, at least imho...

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bubbles7
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posted July 14, 2015 01:57 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for bubbles7     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Astra, maybe so! Well, also I didn't mean to come across like I'm perfect, I do not mean that at all. It just appears that I feel love greatly, I think it's so strong that it carries me through every experience. BTW your stalker person sounds a bit scary, be careful...

geminiblues, thanks for the very insightful info. Maybe I've harnessed the power??

Has anyone else noticed this in their life?? Do you have a ton of hard aspects, but have a non-challenging life??

EDIT: Also, why do people say to focus on the planet that is opposite the apex in a T-square??? Wouldn't this resemble a grand square and aren't those even supposedly more challenging?

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next to neptune
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posted July 14, 2015 03:53 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for next to neptune     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I have some strong t-squares, and maybe my life doesn't seem so hard from the outside, but actually my life have been quiet hard for me. A T-square usually means that you have something you have to work hard on. I don't know your placement, cause you haven't posted them, so it depends on the aspect and planet placements what it is about...

A t-square (if that is what you have) could also indicate that you put a great deal of energy into some part of your life (depending on the placement again).

No matter what, this means problems somewhere in your life (no matter if you are aware of this or not)
The missing link in a t-square, is usually what you have to focus on...
A grand-cross is a complete t-square. But even with this formation in your chart you still have to fight a lot.

But having a t-square or grand-cross (or any square at all) doesn't have to mean you won't find the love in what you do... the t-square could be focused about your health, economy, family, spirituality, whatever. It could be anything......

so you can put in your chart and I can give my best guess at what you have to struggle with

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astra7
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posted July 14, 2015 04:00 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for astra7     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by next to neptune:
I have some strong t-squares, and maybe my life doesn't seem so hard from the outside, but actually my life have been quiet hard for me. A T-square usually means that you have something you have to work hard on. I don't know your placement, cause you haven't posted them, so it depends on the aspect and planet placements what it is about...

A t-square (if that is what you have) could also indicate that you put a great deal of energy into some part of your life (depending on the placement again).

No matter what, this means problems somewhere in your life (no matter if you are aware of this or not)
The missing link in a t-square, is usually what you have to focus on...
A grand-cross is a complete t-square. But even with this formation in your chart you still have to fight a lot.

But having a t-square or grand-cross (or any square at all) doesn't have to mean you won't find the love in what you do... the t-square could be focused about your health, economy, family, spirituality, whatever. It could be anything......

so you can put in your chart and I can give my best guess at what you have to struggle with



Interesting neptune.
So if one has a t-sq, where should this person place a focus on? Or should one try to unfocus from the planet on the apex because we put too much emphasis on that planet?

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bubbles7
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posted July 14, 2015 04:07 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for bubbles7     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
nexttoneptune, that is exactly what confuses me...I can't find where in my life it is hard!?? Am I just so lost that I don't even see my hardships? Ignorance is bliss maybe? Lol!!

I posted my chart on here awhile ago:
http://www.linda-goodman.com/ubb/Forum11/HTML/016037.html

A larger image of the wheel is mid-way down the page.

Why in the heck does one focus on the opposite of the apex of the T-square??? Who would want to bring in even more square trouble?? To me, it doesn't make sense to say that it's balancing, it would be like adding another rotten apple to the mix.

Can you tell me by looking at my chart why I'm so happy? Have you ever met anyone with a super crappy chart and they have a happy/easy life?? Maybe my parents have lied to me about my birthday LOL

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posted July 14, 2015 05:08 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for next to neptune     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by bubbles7:
Have you ever met anyone with a super crappy chart and they have a happy/easy life?? Maybe my parents have lied to me about my birthday LOL

To answer this question alone: There is no such thing as a crappy chart. A chart can be challenging, and it is individual how challenging a chart can be for the person.

Actually, you are born just a month after me, same year. Which means we share some of the same aspects lol.
House placements are not the same though.
And you are so libra influenced lol!!
Most of your problems is about communication... your t-square is focused on the opposite point of your mercury in libra (in 7th house)

Maybe you happen to have some nice aries friends/family in your life? A problem for you, could be how you assert yourself and how you take action. A libra-influenced person can be very indecisive and hesitating indeed..

You got a very nice venus though, both sign and house-placement. I could imagine that you have a great success in your social life, and this area is very important for you?

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bubbles7
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posted July 14, 2015 05:34 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for bubbles7     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Thanks!!

I'm curious about your chart now!

I crave aries influence, but whyyy?? Wouldn't that just add chaos to my already chaotic T-square?

I mostly get paranoid about health problems in my chart (health is out of my control maybe?), every other area I feel I could handle. Does my T-square have anything to do with health??

Thanks again for all the amazing helpful advice!

EDIT: Interesting you point out about the problems with communication...I used to never say a word as a little kid at school. People thought I was mute. The only thing I'd say would be "pizza sauce" when asked to speak. Ha!

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posted July 15, 2015 12:40 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Belage     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Bubbles, most of the hard aspects in your chart have wide orbs, so you may not feel them strongly.

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UnderworldGlory
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posted July 15, 2015 12:55 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for UnderworldGlory     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I was thinking about it and I think I agree. Stress after all becomes disruptive to the body.

Sun Opposite: Uranus Neptune.

Moon Square: Pluto, Jupiter.

Mars Opposite: Saturn.

I have a lot of conjunctions too. But I feel the squares and oppositions a lot more.

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lalalinda
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posted July 16, 2015 09:51 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for lalalinda     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Hello bubbles7! Welcome to LL

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Kannon McAfee
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posted July 17, 2015 09:32 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Kannon McAfee     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by bubbles7:
1. Do hard aspect in themselves indicate poor health?

No.

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2. I have 12 squares (including two T-squares), several oppositions, and only like 3 trines, I also have several planets in my 8th house....but I do not feel the hard aspects at all...I feel like my life is perfect and I never get depressed or go through challenges of note. I feel so much love in my life. Why does my chart say my life is supposed to be hard and it's not? Not even close?

You're generalizing based on some really simplistic notions. "Troubles" are not the meaning of squares. Square aspect dynamics can be very driving, but they can also create some steady energy that keeps an undercurrent of action going, particularly if one does not have conjunctions or parallels. Also wide squares do not have the intensity of tight ones.

This chart tells me that you almost certainly carry a sense of inner optimism and steady, positive attitudes that lead to the results you describe in how you handle life:

Moon [23N19] is parallel Jupiter [22N46]. This is a major aspect that acts very much like a conjunction, in spite of the fact that they are not in the same sign or near each other in longitude.

You have other aspects in declination (positions north/south of celestial equator, parallels/contra-parallels) that indicate you respond to life from an inner place that helps you keep in balance. But you are only 25 so you have a lot left to experience. People's timing for when their life major challenges are triggered will be very unique and individual.

Besides, square aspects of different types can actually balance each other out.

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Randall
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posted July 20, 2015 12:04 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Randall     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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