posted July 17, 2015 10:25 AM              

But what would you consider to be a more dominant role in life? The ASC or the MC?

And please don't use textbook definitions. Don't say things like "Well the ASC represents the mask, and MC is your future job" and blah blah blah blah blahhh. I hate those textbook definitions because real life experience always proves that there is more involved.

posted July 17, 2015 11:11 AM              

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Originally posted by StarlightSmileSupreme:
The MC is what you do for a livelihood while the ascendant is your basic personality. Sun sign is your purpose in life. The descendant is the type of energy you attract, what goes on around you.

So if you have a Leo MC, for instance, you might require a lot of attention to function and might choose a career in the performing arts and feel comfortable when in front of an audience. Gemini MC would like to be able to communicate, socialize, and talk a lot at work, so telecommunications, sales, teaching or publishing are places Gemini MC could be found. If you are reading a chart, a great way to earn points is to focus on the MC and if it's Gemini, talk about how they are most likely in publishing, teaching, or a secretary. Chances are they will be in one of these fields. IF they have Saturn there, chances are they will experience a rise in life and are likely the self-made type. The MC is important because it will indicate career or obstacles. What is the condition of it's ruler? Is it afflicted? If so, there will be obstacles and issues involving the career but not necessarily lack of one. It depends on the planet afflicting. Neptune tends to block plans so they never materialize while with Saturn there's progress but it's slower with much effort paid before it happens. Could be someone who was born poor and must work hard for every cent they earn, never actually earning much but anything is more than they started out with. Or, it could be a person born into a wealthy family with a prominent father who has to set an example, so the situation is a serious one that creates a rigid structure from birth and once an adult, the person with Saturn conjunct MC could acquire a lot of responsibility so there's never a chance to just relax and cut loose.

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I def agree with the Gem MC description, only i have Gem on my IC while Sag is on my MC. What you said rings true.

posted July 17, 2015 05:12 PM            

Also, I work in retail and it's crazy to see how my ascendant plays out. Sooo many customers think I'm 5-7 years older than I am and just the other day someone asked me how many kids I have! Haha it always makes me laugh.

posted July 17, 2015 09:02 PM            

They work together.

You can have a number of people with the same exact MC sign and degree, but with different Asc signs/degrees. As a result, each person will approach their higher aims in life and the MC/10th potential in the way that suits them.

posted July 20, 2015 01:02 PM            

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Originally posted by GeminiKarat:
Mmmm. I have a Gemini AC, Aqua MC and they form a Grand Trine with my Uranus and yess t☽,t♃ and t♀ are on my IC.

I prefer Aries to trigger my chart.

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Always cool to see people with same houses. Sort of like we have the same class schedule or something. I gotta pick your brain, if you don't mind.

Do you look younger than your age (Gemini AC)?

posted July 20, 2015 01:16 PM            

i don't relate to my mc whatsoever. it wasn't until i got into decantes and dwads and looked at my mc's dwads then i related to that.

my original was aquarius mc - nope. no relating to whatsoever but looking at dwads puts my mc at taurus and thats makes a hell of a lot more sense and i can relate to that 1000000x more

posted July 20, 2015 01:31 PM              

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Originally posted by confusedaseff:
ascendant for me for sure

i don't relate to my mc whatsoever. it wasn't until i got into decantes and dwads and looked at my mc's dwads then i related to that.

my original was aquarius mc - nope. no relating to whatsoever but looking at dwads puts my mc at taurus and thats makes a hell of a lot more sense and i can relate to that 1000000x more

most people i've looked at or spoken to about MC all agree with me that their MC doesn't suit them at all

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posted July 21, 2015 06:58 AM            

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Originally posted by CosmiqPhuz:
Always cool to see people with same houses. Sort of like we have the same class schedule or something. I gotta pick your brain, if you don't mind.

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Originally posted by CosmiqPhuz:
Do you look younger than your age (Gemini AC)?

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Originally posted by CosmiqPhuz:
What are you doing work-wise or aspire to do? Does your Aqua MC make you hate being told what to do? I find this a problem with jobs, haha.

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posted July 21, 2015 09:03 AM            

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Originally posted by Kannon McAfee:
Honestly, its a kinda silly question. The MC is an extention of the Asc and vice versa, just like an arm is an extension of the body. Its a bit like asking whether arms or legs are more important. So what do we do, tear them off the body and put them to separate tests?

They work together.

You can have a number of people with the same exact MC sign and degree, but with different Asc signs/degrees. As a result, each person will approach their higher aims in life and the MC/10th potential in the way that suits them.

Another way of putting it, is without the Asc there is no person to activate the MC.

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posted July 21, 2015 05:11 PM            

My ASC is Leo and my MC is Aries.

I feel like the cookie cutter description of the Asc being a mask is so far from what it really is it kind of makes me mad when I see those words used.

My Leo ASC describes me through and through. And it doesn't just describe my appearance, but the way I think/act/feel as well. It is a very personal point and anyone who has planets conjunct it set my senses on fire.